klanka wrote:
How long do you usually wait, and how well do you know them before you ask them out?
I've only gotten into a relationship when the lady made the first move,and that was when I was young. That was something that happened once in a blue moon.
I got into the 3 relationships I've had by woman making the 1st move online. Me & my 1st gf were online friends who met on a forum for a common interest & we've had some various things in common like dyslexia & ADD/ADHD. I met my 2nd & current gf on this forum.
I've had no luck trying to ask out women offline but I knew them a little bit 1st. Some actually had thought I was gay & were shocked I made a move on em

I think the main reasons other women rejected me offline were because they thought I was too disabled, I was too awkward, or they did not like me in that way aka no spark or chemistry & they just saw me as a friend.
I tried lots of dating sites & various forums to meet women but did not get so much as a date except for the 3 cases I've mentioned. I think the major reasons I was rejected online were because I was too desperate, too needy, too depressed, too negative, & I did not have my life together enough due to being disabled. Also some people online actually accused me of being a misogynist & a potential wife beater & rapist despite me being a male feminist, on the asexuality spectrum, & me being very skinny & weak & barely able to throw a punch when I was being beat up as a kid

People accused me of being too negative & too judgemental despite me being judged & accused of horrible things that did not make sense & are NOT me

I knew a couple women online who woulda been willing to move in with me if I had my own place at the time but I did not. They did not have a good stable place to live & seemed like nice women who woulda appreciated a guy who really cared & tried.