The question of fashion (for the ladies)

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24 Nov 2007, 1:16 pm

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I just have a question for the women, in terms of a guy's fashion and what kind of stuff he wears, how much influence does it really have in terms of what you think of him? I'm not talking about if he's a slob or has paint covered shirts, I mean if he has a preference to wear Ecko, Sean Jean, Roccawear, Phat Pharm, Nautica, and Reverb or Breakdowns for pants rather than Abercrombie, Old Navy, and tight khakis.


I don't give a rats a-- what brand a guy wears. Just dress somewhat respectably. But NT's might care - I don't know.



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28 Nov 2007, 7:17 pm

Most NT women care what you wear, especially in that first 30 seconds they meet you and determine if you are doable or not.

I love the preppy look. A gangster look would not make my knees quiver. Don’t get me wrong; once you are in a relationship you can do the occasional non traditional outfit. It is best to just dress the way you like, that way when someone likes you it is you they like, not someone posing as something they are not.

Something I used to do when I was younger was look at the guy I liked, look at the girls he liked and dress like the girls he liked. That worked well for the catch, but in the end I will take flip flops over high heals, and the guys who liked me when I was fancy became bored when I stopped.

My bf prefers a look opposite of mine. He likes the look of slu*ty, busty blondes. I am a petite, natural looking brunette. Every once in a while I will get all dolled up for him. He has decided he was not getting his needs met by the plastic women and has determined having his needs met is more important that having a Barbie doll. So, in the end, be yourself!


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02 Dec 2007, 7:24 pm

Actually, most PREPPY GIRLS care what you wear. Not NT women. Pull the generalisation in a bit :)

Widen it at the other end. We mostly care about PRESENTATION, not STYLE. That is, those of us out of school or university and those of us that have realised what the real world is all about. It’s not brands, unless you’re a model.

Presentation – have some respect for yourself. Put some thought into it. What brands you wear will attract a certain audience yes, but a general level of thought/style will hit a wider audience.

What I mean – you’re gonna look like a dag if you wear grotty old shorts and 20 year old t-shirts. You can’t argue with this fact – if you look like you crawled out of your parents’ basement for the first time in 10 years, then you’ll get the same amount of effort from someone else that you put into yourself in the first place :P

Most girls would prefer a shirt (of any kind) to a t-shirt. A ‘nice’ t-shirt is better than nothing.

Also, do something with your hair. Don’t leave that dead hamster on there! Nothing flash if that’s not your thing, you don’t have to go metro...just do SOMETHING with it. Brush/comb it at the very least!

Don’t worry about brands! Just pick items that fit you well, pick colours that suit you, and choose cuts/fits of clothing that appeal to you. The key is to MAKE YOU LOOK GOOD, not be a shop window mannequin :)

One thing annoying beyond all reason is seeing a good-looking guy in a dishevelled, unkempt state. My AS boyfriend is gorgeous – he has captivating eyes, a lovely face, and a flawless, gorgeous body. If I could get near him with a camera, he’d prove to be wonderfully photogenic. Unfortunately it’s all hidden under a mop of hair and old clothes. It’s an unfortunate waste – a truly gorgeous man with a wardrobe better suited for being shredded up and served as the dog’s dinner! He’s getting better though – he’s realising what he has ;) Hurrhurr.

I’d say most of you are gorgeous too, if you enhance what you naturally have :) Screw brands...just make YOU look good.



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02 Dec 2007, 8:01 pm

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Also, do something with your hair. Don’t leave that dead hamster on there! Nothing flash if that’s not your thing, you don’t have to go metro...just do SOMETHING with it. Brush/comb it at the very least!


I've started to do this, well not really in the morning or doing anything fancy... but I've made it a point to carry a comb with me. I comb my hair when I am walking outside or before I enter a room. If I think it's bad I'll head into a restroom for a mirror.

With long hair, I have to keep it combined since it starts to look really nasty if I don't 'touch it up'. Combed it looks like I care a little bit, and actually want to have long hair... and am not just lazy. Though honestly it's a little bit of both...


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02 Dec 2007, 8:07 pm

Sounds like my man :) he’s had short hair all his life...got bored with it...grew it out so it’s several inches long. Looked like arse for a while. Now he attacks it with a towel each day after a shower so it sort of spikes out around his head...looks awesome on him, makes him look older than his mere 18...so sexy but so simple! And stays in place most of the day too. :lol: It doesn’t have to be fancy, doesn’t necessarily even need any gunk/spray/mousse/etc. It’s the little changes, the little efforts, simple things that make someone look fantastic.



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02 Dec 2007, 8:16 pm

Shale wrote:
It doesn’t have to be fancy, doesn’t necessarily even need any gunk/spray/mousse/etc. It’s the little changes, the little efforts, simple things that make someone look fantastic.


Yeah, I think you just have to pay a little attention to the colors that you are using... and how something fits on you. It doesn't have to be great or fancy... heck I wear hawaiian shirts all the time... but when I look for new hawaiian shirts to buy... I consider how they look and the colors and how they would fit my 'style'.

I hate using gunk in my hair, I don't want to use any other product besides shampoo and conditioner. Just keep on combing it, that's good enough for me.


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02 Dec 2007, 8:22 pm

From what I remember, once a thing becomes fashionable, it is no longer fashionable, so the goal posts keep moving. When you get old enough to have a mortgage you don't care anymore. I wear my clothes into rags these days.

I think one of the hardest clothing styles for aspies to master is the anonymous, 'don't notice me', clothing. I had to put a lot of effort into that one.



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02 Dec 2007, 8:27 pm

LOL. Unfortunately most Aspies seem to capture the 'NOTICE ME, I R SORE THUMB!'' look far better than the 'Don't notice me, I be inconspicuous' look...simply because 'not caring' is a good way to stick out like said sore thumb.

It's like when they were designing Seven of Nine’s costume (Borg lady, from Star Trek: Voyager). She’s got enormous boobs. Trying to make it less porno was difficult, given she was wearing a catsuit. The thing they found: To make them stand out less, put LOTS of work into the outfit design. When they thought they might not put effort in to make them inconspicuous, the opposite happened...all you could focus on was this incredible rack!! :lol:



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02 Dec 2007, 8:27 pm

riverotter wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
...if he has a preference to wear Ecko, Sean Jean, Roccawear, Phat Pharm, Nautica, and Reverb or Breakdowns for pants rather than Abercrombie, Old Navy, and tight khakis...

This is a denoument after the previous post, but I was wondering if you have a racial preference for the ladies you are looking for.


No, not really. I'd probably end up with caucasian, could end up with Asian, south American, African American, or otherwise but it all comes down to attraction and above all personality; ie. if she's on the right page and can see the best in me and being with her makes me happy as well - skin color might as well be hair color. I think with my clothing, if I have an aim, I just don't want either real straight-edge girls or at least I want someone who's a bit more enlightened and world-wise than most people on average.



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02 Dec 2007, 8:36 pm

Kitsy wrote:
dress in drag one night out.



your hair-

Image



your dress-


Image


your boots-

Image


go bra shopping, have a female come along with you. You can stuff your bra any method you like.

You will get the attention you've always wanted.


Yah know, that's more the weekend attire :wink: , I've still got Monday through Friday to contend with. Still, thanks for fronting the wears.



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02 Dec 2007, 11:25 pm

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One thing annoying beyond all reason is seeing a good-looking guy in a dishevelled, unkempt state. My AS boyfriend is gorgeous – he has captivating eyes, a lovely face, and a flawless, gorgeous body. If I could get near him with a camera, he’d prove to be wonderfully photogenic. Unfortunately it’s all hidden under a mop of hair and old clothes. It’s an unfortunate waste – a truly gorgeous man with a wardrobe better suited for being shredded up and served as the dog’s dinner! He’s getting better though – he’s realising what he has ;) Hurrhurr.


One thing annoying beyond all reason is why people care so much. Worrying about such stuff costs money to buy new clothing all the time, and it costs time in the morning. There's a reason I can get ready from sleep to out the door in under half an hour... 15 minutes to get from full sleep to functional (not that I'm awake, it takes me 2-3 hours to be fully awake), 10 minutes to shower and brush teeth, 5 minutes to put whatever clean t-shirt and jeans are available, and out I go. If I end up being "snapped" awake (aka an emergency happened), I can skip the "waking" 15 minutes and be out the door in under 15 minutes...

My mother, on the other hand, takes over three hours to get ready for the day.


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It's like when they were designing Seven of Nine’s costume (Borg lady, from Star Trek: Voyager). She’s got enormous boobs. Trying to make it less porno was difficult, given she was wearing a catsuit. The thing they found: To make them stand out less, put LOTS of work into the outfit design. When they thought they might not put effort in to make them inconspicuous, the opposite happened...all you could focus on was this incredible rack!! Laughing


Seven of Nine was the worst choice to put on voyager. I would have much rather taken that one super-advanced borg from that one voyager episode because he had awesome factor. Besides, if I want to see a rack, I hit the internet, not my voyager dvd collection :P



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03 Dec 2007, 1:06 pm

When I started dating my Aspie guy, (btw - I'm an NT gal) one of things we did on a "day date" was go shopping for new pants for him. It wasn't the label that mattered, but the fit. My guy is a tall guy and he just didn't know how to shop for pants for himself. All of his pants were either too big around the waist or too short in the leg.

So, we got a tape measure and I showed him how to determine his size. We then went out and tried on several different styles in his size so he could see what he was most comfortable with. He picked out what was most comfortable to him, but asked for my opinion as well. In the end we had a good time together and were both happy with his new pants.

To me, the presentation of the clothes means more than the label. What I mean is, make sure you have the right size for your body type and once something becomes too old, stained, or develops holes in it - replace it with something new if you can afford it.

Keep it neat and clean. NT women do notice the effort and the effort is attractive. Looking like a slob, however, is not attractive.

*Ditto Shale about the hair. ;)



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03 Dec 2007, 3:19 pm

Firgs...you are my new hero :D

Man...there ain't a snowbll's chance in hell of me getting Cam out to shop like that -_____- Insanely stubborn, that man. Ah well, Hallenstein vouchers for christmas should drop a hint ;)



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03 Dec 2007, 5:06 pm

lol @ Shale

I am starting to think it may have had something to do with the math involved :lol:



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04 Dec 2007, 9:22 pm

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To me, the presentation of the clothes means more than the label. What I mean is, make sure you have the right size for your body type and once something becomes too old, stained, or develops holes in it - replace it with something new if you can afford it.

Keep it neat and clean. NT women do notice the effort and the effort is attractive. Looking like a slob, however, is not attractive.


Yep, I'm right on with all of that. I still think what I'll want to do is still shift it more toward late 20's style, having a bit of that same flare but starting to dress like I have a good job and money (so yeah, some of the more elegant stuff that you'd see an upperclass couple wearing in an expensive restaurant). Part of it is me trying to figure out what will wear well with my personality (and having it blinged up is fine, in fact its great, just so long as I like what I see on me in the mirror). At the same though there's the other side of me - getting from early and mid 20's to 30's is a bit like a quarter-life crisis, its a time where you definitely need to change things up a little if your really moving on at an appropriate pace (yeahyeah, I know in general its not supposed to matter but I tend to have my own personal existential-ish needs to that end), its almost like my desire to shift my style to that end goes hand in hand with my wanting to slightly shift my identity, shift my composure, ultimately in an even more refined and polished direction.



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05 Dec 2007, 12:04 am

I don't know if you would be up for this techstep..

But if you wanted some extra help with what works together and what doesn't, you could spread any outfits you have out on your bed and take, then post pictures of them. Then we could all give feedback on them. :)

If that would help?

No worries if it's beyond your comfort zone though. :) Just an idea.