Nice Guys finish FIRST!

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I often wonder if men who are unsuccessful with women view romantically successful men as "Jerks" and "a**holes" simply because they are bitter and envious of their success.

Not as a rule, but I'm sure that this logic applies in certain situations.

no....because I acted badly and attracted more women. Why do you think the joke is "single men never have options to cheat?" I believe that women, for the most part, engage in some kind of world wide competition. Why do you think it is possible to get into bed with 2 women (not that I have) but only the strangest women would want two guys? because if women value a guy's status high enough they figure half of him is hotter than one of someone else. If I could only figure out what the status actually WAS, then we could work that angle. But observation has shown me that the only true fact is people who have a lot of partners are the best at finding new ones...which is NOT encouraging for most of us.

Thread title is true.

NOT!! !!

oh man, this topics title reminds me of the time i was talking to myself out in the woods about "nice guys finishing last" and someone was out there in the middle of freaking nowhere and heard me

i wanted to die

Yep, and the things that will turn someone from being completely indifferent or almost cold-shouldering you to having all kinds of interest to where you almost have to push them off. Quite often things you'd never would have imagined in a million years, it'll be something that seems like its minute - but in the end its really about their own idiosyncrasies. Not to say that a lot of the larger/global dynamics that people see don't have a lot of truth to them, just that its things like this that seem to be in the sub-plot when things deviate from that.

Another thing is that people love a feeling of serrendipity and fate when meeting someone special (where I think those little odd things come into play as well as not trying). People have that sort of spiritual edge to their emotionality in a lot of cases, in some corner no matter how superficially hidden it is, and anything that makes life feel bigger, larger, or tags more meaning to it than what there really seems to be - does wonders.

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Maybe they thought you were talking into a headset lol.

Yeah, you're probably right about that... those a**holes have had a free ride (so to speak) for too long...

EXACTLY! I wish I learned that a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time ago. Taking it further, appreciating a girl more than any other guy has no effect on whether a girl likes you UNLESS she already likes you for who you are. That is why they say, "Just be yourself" around a girl. There is no other way. Paying attention to her, laughing at her jokes, asking how her day was MEANS NOTHING unless she already likes you. Having feelings for a girl has no bearing whether she likes you or wants to sleep with you. Again, she has to like you for who you are.

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Game playing bs, especially since not only did she push her number on him, but they talked off the phone. I can see keeping it a little slow for somethng like online meets, but they've met and talked already. A day or two is more than enough in this case.

This might just be an aspie thing, but I only like nice guys, and I don't like guys who are super masculine.

I must be really strange then, cos the thought of two guys together...............grrrrrrrrrrRRRRRR!! !! !! !! !! !! :)

Here's a funny story about yesterday.

after my morning AS group I ended up driving about an hour across town (back home and a little ways further) to go play walleyball and basketball with my roommate, one of our other friends (they've both known eachother practically all their lives), their dads, and another guy.

Anyway, after we'd played all that and when my roommate's dad didn't feel like playing another round of basketball I ended up deciding to sit it on the sidelines myself. Of course I ended up talking to him about work and all that, talking to him about his business and what kinds of new target markets he could shift it off to as local business declined with his current types of clients, and of course being that he's single again (wife passed recently) we were talking about the dating scene a bit.

Something he brought up that really had me scratching my head and I was really hoping people actually matured better than this; he'd mentioned that one of the biggest problems people in the 30's, 40's, 50's, and even 60's brackets still have - its still all about sex for so many people. Sex isn't bad, I won't diss it, its got its finer points, but when it determines who you end up with based on externals or when it governs the ebs and flows of a relationship - in my book its not a relationship at all, its a real big error.

As a kid I'd always had a different sense of the world around me than that, as a teen I still had it, in my 20's - although I'd hardened a bit and learned to put a filter over it to speak in in another person's sort of language - I still had it. Some NT's have a greater sense of sexual maturity, some aspies do, and it seems like the vocal majority (whatever that amounts to - not really sure) aren't in that sort of place. People seem governed by either taking their needs and running with them without too much deeper thought about it all or the quality of their lives, or, alternately they're too scared or coerced by those who do that they also run at things just because the fear of breaking conformity ends up being greater than the fear of ending up with someone who makes a mess of their lives.

In the end, in all this, nice people really do want nice people though. Its a matter of world and emotional orientation that if someone is inwardly and emotionally more societal or spiritual than animal, if they don't like the games themselves, that they're in want of someone who's on the same page. You'll probably see them all the time and it can be very difficult to get through to them just because they're so used to seeing shite games played on them just to con them in that they have a very hard time believing much of what they see anymore. I'm glad that I understand that now, just like the fact that unless you warm yourself to people and vice a versa - your every other person with every other person's vices and ill motivations.

In the end, niceness taken as what it is, I don't think nice people (guys, girls) finish first or last. Most do finish but it still matters a lot on who's around them, who they have access to knowing, time and place, lots of things that they just can't calculate.

Yeah, I act like a nice guy in bout the first five minutes of conversation with a girl... Then when she's comfortable I act like the playful "nice" a**hole the entire time and it always gets follow on dates. Only thing that works for me! High Five.

there are all sorts of women out there who like all sorts of men...the trick is finding the type that works for you..

what you have to find out is what a particular woman likes, and see if it fits. And yes, more often than not, she picks you before you pick her...