Differences between AS and PDD-NOS in all of this?

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21 Apr 2008, 3:48 am

i think a lot of people do not write about their issues too openly,
so the overal image you get is biased.

it's true that wp is for sharing, and there are things that one does not mind telling,
like i don't mind talking about seat belts and i occasionally will talk about difficulties,
but i tend to control that in some way though, erasing traces of too extreme behaviour.

i will not easily write how i play tetris so often till 4 am when i have to get up at 7, completely wasting my time, but
unable to stop it, since i'm rather ashamed about it, i almost do not want to admit that for myself, even if i'm 100% aware of doing it. (so for you i have now written it down ;) ) it is an issue, because it is at the edge of not being fresh enough for work,
it's valuable time i really need for other stuff, etc
if i give 10 examples like that, the image of a perfect 'lemon' (that's a funny one :D ! !) will be destroyed, which i cannot do.
i need to live after this perfect image, even if i know it is not accurate, it is some kind of goal, and image to live after.

i read in an article that an autistic boy had photographs of himself for eating, one when he took place at his dish, when where he took the fork, etc. he could eat perfectly with these pictures, copying them, otherwise he couldn't have dinner in a proper way.

i could relate to that very much, i have a very hard time doing anything if i have no idea what it 'looks' like.
and the tricks they use for LFA seem to work quite often everywhere where it concerns sensitivity to light, sound ; dayschedules;
visual explanations; etc

but then again there is the intelligence, this mental power that makes that every second is lived in awareness, i think not enough is thought about it and it is a very tough aspect. my daughter is gifted and she suffers it too, fortunately for her she has no social issues. but it is mental pain too, i see it so often in her.

and the fact that people have no idea of how hard the issues are, if i'm standing somewhere vaguely smiling, completely out of this world cause i'm overwhelmed by something (highpitched noise, too many elements at the time, people too close, unknown situations/people/expectations, etc etc) no one sees this as a problem, i'm not disturbing, i'm calm, maybe even looking cute, with this 'smile for all occasions'.

and you techstep have a complex way of expressing yourself, it is a mix of extremely intellectual reasoning and street talk with your own personal experiences and opinions, i'm sure a lot of people might feel the same as you do, but not many will follow your personal mix. maybe that is a reason why you don't have so much replies on these topics? (me for example, i'm not sure if i'm not answering completely beside your initial topic, gives me the feeling of 'shall i erase it?')
but well, i hope this will only bring you closer to your music so that one day you'll be that genius everyone loves ;)



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21 Apr 2008, 6:50 am

True Sarah, you have some good points there. One thing I at least do shy away from is letting a thread turn around to revolve around myself - I could chat you up by PM but like you mentioned, you have things too close to your core to share right out front with the world; analyzing myself tends to be more on that territory.



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21 Apr 2008, 3:09 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
True Sarah, you have some good points there. One thing I at least do shy away from is letting a thread turn around to revolve around myself

it's not a problem when a thread is around someone if that person is ok with it, it's not NT-land here anyway ;)
especially if it is in communication with someone of whom you know that s/he is not just chatting in the empty, i believe it's ok.


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- I could chat you up by PM but like you mentioned, you have things too close to your core to share right out front with the world; analyzing myself tends to be more on that territory.


i think i personally do have peace with sharing things (well there are limits of course), but that does not mean that it will always come out just as easy as 'hi, what is your favorite colour?' and i said that because this might be the case for many of us here. even if it is not NT-land, the way we are sometimes treated is not lightly to be forgotten.
(but we can also take part of that conversation private of course, the reason why it is sometimes interesting to have a conversation public is because other people might benefit from it, know that they are not alone, etc)



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21 Apr 2008, 3:18 pm

*Lurking*

This looks like a potential hook-up!! :wink:

No better place than the Love and Dating site.....or forum. :?


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21 Apr 2008, 4:18 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
*Lurking*

This looks like a potential hook-up!! :wink:

No better place than the Love and Dating site.....or forum. :?


Nah, just a bunch of old friends......god its been what...30 years?...... reuniting to kick ideas back and forth. :)



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21 Apr 2008, 4:25 pm

Darn, I guessed wrong! I hate it when that happens. I thought I was actually seeing a hook-up for the first time in the Love and Dating forum.


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21 Apr 2008, 4:34 pm

lemon wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
True Sarah, you have some good points there. One thing I at least do shy away from is letting a thread turn around to revolve around myself

it's not a problem when a thread is around someone if that person is ok with it, it's not NT-land here anyway ;)
especially if it is in communication with someone of whom you know that s/he is not just chatting in the empty, i believe it's ok.


Ok, well, I can at least say this much. I notice where your going with it - there are things you should share, things you probably shouldn't. At the same time though, in other context the need can be there and it can have a very good reason for calling. Its a toss-up, you have consequences if you say something, you have consequences if you don't. These days I worry about what I don't say than what I do, particularly when I at least have my head on well enough to know where I definitely don't want to go.

The other part, as a guy, things are a bit different. I do have to discuss, do have to engage in conversation, do have to keep myself out there, and on matters that are of core relevance to me (think where I'm going with that) I need to have my thoughts and attitudes available just to test the waters and see who else is out there on my level.



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21 Apr 2008, 5:19 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
*Lurking*

This looks like a potential hook-up!! :wink:

No better place than the Love and Dating site.....or forum. :?


Nah, just a bunch of old friends......god its been what...30 years?...... reuniting to kick ideas back and forth. :)


30 years ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

(oops i had not noticed this topic was in the 'love and dating' thread, i came here through a profile)
and i did not understand the word 'hook-up', i thought you were after the thread MissConstrue :D
(watch out Matt, she kills threads deliberately !)



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21 Apr 2008, 5:26 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
The other part, as a guy, things are a bit different. I do have to discuss, do have to engage in conversation, do have to keep myself out there, and on matters that are of core relevance to me (think where I'm going with that) I need to have my thoughts and attitudes available just to test the waters and see who else is out there on my level.


that's why it is ok to go a little random too, a lot of small things come out, even if it is initially not on a serious level, you just 'feel' whether you share a same vision somewhere, you also meet people more often so you can start recognising them.
that's also why wp is so comfortable,
in real life it is as if anything i say falls down and echos long (and yeah, i can deal with that) but here i just feel that it is growing, images take better shape, thoughts are refined instead of killed (despite MissConstrue's attempts ;D) , etc


but i'm afraid i'm going a little off-topic here ... ?



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21 Apr 2008, 5:44 pm

I fit the PDD-NOS criteria with my diagnosis in 1989, but that was before AS became more accepted and understood. I really don't see much of a difference if any with my social issues and the social issues most of the AS-diagnosed people here have.



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21 Apr 2008, 8:20 pm

lemon wrote:
that's also why wp is so comfortable,
in real life it is as if anything i say falls down and echos long (and yeah, i can deal with that) but here i just feel that it is growing, images take better shape, thoughts are refined instead of killed (despite MissConstrue's attempts ;D) , etc


Well, they do - you just can't hear the echoes :P. j/k.

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MissConstrue Very Happy
(watch out Matt, she kills threads deliberately !)


You know, I'd love her to death if she could work some of her magic right now. :wink: As the conversation's progressed I've been feeling a bit more conservative about the tune of it; hopefully this will just drop to the bottom of the stack ASAP (though quite hypocritically I am typing a post right now - go figure). Still, love the insight and glad you chimed in :).



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21 Apr 2008, 9:03 pm

Hector wrote:
I fit the PDD-NOS criteria with my diagnosis in 1989, but that was before AS became more accepted and understood. I really don't see much of a difference if any with my social issues and the social issues most of the AS-diagnosed people here have.


I think you are probably right. The life-path sorts of choices and personality traits could as well go across both equally. I guess with myself and a lot of people I've met who were on a similar plain I had noticed a lot of similar traits - less scientific and more along the lines of just general observation. Overall though AS does have its stilts though and of course if its not one thing in terms of classic symptoms its another thing making up for general effect.



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22 Apr 2008, 9:43 am

Of course just because we all share the same broad criteria of symptoms doesn't mean we're all the same.