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19 Apr 2008, 11:40 am

They are like any other women in the world, there are some who are pretty and others who are ugly , some who are shy and others who are bold , some who are sane and others who are insane....etc

Persians are usually colder....



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19 Apr 2008, 1:47 pm

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Send a picture and I'll let you know what I think. :wink:


Have a look in the members only forum under the "post a pic" thread :wink:


Just an opininion, no pun intended....that talk would probably scare any guy or girl off. Telling them what you think before they post a pic is a big NO NO!


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19 Apr 2008, 2:25 pm

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D1nk0 wrote:
redroseuptown wrote:
Send a picture and I'll let you know what I think. :wink:


Have a look in the members only forum under the "post a pic" thread :wink:


Just an opininion, no pun intended....that talk would probably scare any guy or girl off. Telling them what you think before they post a pic is a big NO NO!


Who are you addressing this to MissConstrue? If its addressed to me it really doesnt make a whole lotta sense :?



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19 Apr 2008, 2:38 pm

:roll: Whoops, I just noticed the member before you. Just a thought.


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20 Apr 2008, 8:30 am

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I'm pretty sure any obvious "oogling" of girls is going to cause a bad reaction, and not specifically muslim women.


Agreed!

This is a very weird question by the way. I live in sydney and that is like 1 in 5 people you are talking about!



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21 Apr 2008, 11:21 am

Dude take it from a Muslim that conservative Muslims women are restricted to themselves. That means that I can't "oogle" at them too. If I do it brings shame if I don't it's fine. They do that because they think you are trying to "look them up" which by the way offends most if not every woman on earth.

It's called having honour and most women try to keep that as well as dignity and self respect. By the way I would just like to clarify that Pakistani; Banglasdeshi; Afghanistani and Indian Muslims are NOT Middle-eastern. They are called South Asians. It's not a "White thing"; nothing racial. It's just a new experiance for them. Although don't flirt conservative Muslim women - they find it an invasion of privacy. Now self-respect, confidence and dignity and a good education is what turns them on. They like a man with a clean reputation.



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21 Apr 2008, 2:16 pm

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Dude take it from a Muslim that conservative Muslims women are restricted to themselves. That means that I can't "oogle" at them too. If I do it brings shame if I don't it's fine. They do that because they think you are trying to "look them up" which by the way offends most if not every woman on earth.

It's called having honour and most women try to keep that as well as dignity and self respect. By the way I would just like to clarify that Pakistani; Banglasdeshi; Afghanistani and Indian Muslims are NOT Middle-eastern. They are called South Asians. It's not a "White thing"; nothing racial. It's just a new experiance for them. Although don't flirt conservative Muslim women - they find it an invasion of privacy. Now self-respect, confidence and dignity and a good education is what turns them on. They like a man with a clean reputation.


Hey WAIT a second! Firstly, Im not quite sure if the women that Ive looked upon are muslim-or even practicing muslim. If they were practicing muslims then I assume that at the very least they would wear a Hejab in public. Its pretty freaking OBVIOUS to me that women wearing Hejabs(or Abaya's) are OFF LIMITS to look upon! Also, the "middle east" refers to SW asia. It INCLUDES everything east of the Mediterranean and West of Pakistan, bordered on the north by the Caspian Sea and the Caucasus. When I say middle eastern Im NOT exclusively talking about semitic women because NOT everyone in the middle east is semitic! There are ALSO Indo-Iranians in the middle east-notably Persians, Kurds, and Armenians. I was NOT talking about women from the Indian Subcontinent or (south)Central Asia like Afghanistan! I have no doubt that most middle-eastern women, especially those who are muslim assume that white guys ARENT muslim unless they wear a skullcap at minimum.
But the question is: are more moderate muslims expected to only date Other muslims?For those of you who ARENT muslim, WHY are you all being so condescending towards me for bringing up this topic?? Someone else started a thread about Latin women, why are middle eastern women a taboo?



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21 Apr 2008, 3:29 pm

^Then maybe they're not exactly Muslim so to speak or they're "liberal Muslims"?

Just want to clarify too, and you probably already know that Islam is based off a belief rather than a race. There's many countries that practice the faith of Islam. Maybe you mean Arabic women in general?


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21 Apr 2008, 4:06 pm

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^Then maybe they're not exactly Muslim so to speak or they're "liberal Muslims"?

Just want to clarify too, and you probably already know that Islam is based off a belief rather than a race. There's many countries that practice the faith of Islam. Maybe you mean Arabic women in general?


Yes MissConstrue, Im WELL aware of that. I was NOT exclusively referring to Muslim women because Islam has spread well beyond the middle east. Besides NOT all Middle Eastern women are muslim: there are a christians in lebanon, syria, palestine and armenia. What I meant by middle eastern was Arab and Iranian women.



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21 Apr 2008, 4:10 pm

^Okaaay, no need to rebutle, now I know everything.


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21 Apr 2008, 4:26 pm

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Okaaay, no need to rebutle, now I know everything. :roll:


So why are you rolling your eyes then, eH? :?



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21 Apr 2008, 6:06 pm

Whoops, my idea of looking at a post above mine. Guess I'll have to stick with the ^^^

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21 Apr 2008, 6:54 pm

I think he means secular Arabs, which are mainly of Lebanese and Syrian descent.

As for Muslims, I think most Muslims are actually of black African descent, not Arab.

Also, suburban American white guys are converting to Islam as well.


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22 Apr 2008, 9:29 am

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I think he means secular Arabs, which are mainly of Lebanese and Syrian descent.

As for Muslims, I think most Muslims are actually of black African descent, not Arab.

Also, suburban American white guys are converting to Islam as well.


The last sentence certainly is true, but to what extent(percentage and numbers wise)I honestly dont know. I wouldnt say that the Majority of them are(or anywhere close to 50%). I believe you're incorrect about most muslims being black africans. There are many black muslims in africa but Im quite sure that most muslims are Asian(Indo-Aryan and/or SE Asian).But Turkish women are middle eastern too; and they sure Arent bad lookin' either-like this one for example:

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22 Apr 2008, 12:03 pm

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Dude take it from a Muslim that conservative Muslims women are restricted to themselves. That means that I can't "oogle" at them too. If I do it brings shame if I don't it's fine. They do that because they think you are trying to "look them up" which by the way offends most if not every woman on earth.

It's called having honour and most women try to keep that as well as dignity and self respect. By the way I would just like to clarify that Pakistani; Banglasdeshi; Afghanistani and Indian Muslims are NOT Middle-eastern. They are called South Asians. It's not a "White thing"; nothing racial. It's just a new experiance for them. Although don't flirt conservative Muslim women - they find it an invasion of privacy. Now self-respect, confidence and dignity and a good education is what turns them on. They like a man with a clean reputation.


Hey WAIT a second! Firstly, Im not quite sure if the women that Ive looked upon are muslim-or even practicing muslim. If they were practicing muslims then I assume that at the very least they would wear a Hejab in public. Its pretty freaking OBVIOUS to me that women wearing Hejabs(or Abaya's) are OFF LIMITS to look upon! Also, the "middle east" refers to SW asia. It INCLUDES everything east of the Mediterranean and West of Pakistan, bordered on the north by the Caspian Sea and the Caucasus. When I say middle eastern Im NOT exclusively talking about semitic women because NOT everyone in the middle east is semitic! There are ALSO Indo-Iranians in the middle east-notably Persians, Kurds, and Armenians. I was NOT talking about women from the Indian Subcontinent or (south)Central Asia like Afghanistan! I have no doubt that most middle-eastern women, especially those who are muslim assume that white guys ARENT muslim unless they wear a skullcap at minimum.
But the question is: are more moderate muslims expected to only date Other muslims?For those of you who ARENT muslim, WHY are you all being so condescending towards me for bringing up this topic?? Someone else started a thread about Latin women, why are middle eastern women a taboo?


I'm afraid you are entirely wrong!! !! (About the Pakistanis being Middle-eastern!! !!). Cite any RELIABLE sources that says this. Also look up WIKIPEDIA on Pakistan (it's a featured article) and look up any scholary website and you will see that Pakistanis and not called middle-eastern. Pakistanis are of Indian Heritage and guess what baby we're NOT middle-easterners. Prove my point wrong by citing reliable sources I have.

Also are you saying that India was a part of the Middle-east before the creation of Pakistan in 1944? Pakistan was a part of India before it's independance. And Turkey is a part of Europe NOT the Middle-east (look up news and stuff and you will see - can't explain right now) Armenians are not Middle-eastern they consider themselves European and Russia is also not European they consider themselves as Eur-asians (Europe is TINY compared to Asia - look up geography not some blantent "truthiness" theories). We are NOT Middle-Eastern we are from the same blood as Indians, same culture, same food, same everything and we are basically Indian and have Indian heritage. 1500 years or so a minority converted in Muslims - known as Indian Muslims when Pakistan was created in 1944 they were Pakistani Muslims. PAKISTAN WAS NEVER A PART OF THE MIDDLE-EAST.

Good. Day. Sir!

Oh and back to your question: Muslims will date Muslims. I personally like women who are Muslim, Christian or Jewish. Islam allows for people to date these people only as they are considered "halal" - authorised, blessed and from the abrahmic religion. Man have ever read an encycolpaedia or the Qu'ran or Bible or Taurat (Torah)? The answers are in there. Read them. Muslim women can date who they like as long as they belong to the Muslim faith. The reason why women may not like you is because in Islam you have to have self-respect and not be "formal" - straightforward asking them for a date - no no just doesn't work like that and BE a Muslim at the same time. Also women are discouraged from dating ALL men until they entrusts them FULLY - that is no random stranger can date them until they both have respect for one another and HE must be Muslim. For men it's a little different and for women its a little different.

ONE more thing if you want to date/marry a Muslim woman you HAVE to convert from atheism or Christianity or Judaism to Islam. Muslim men can marry who they like as long as they are Muslim, Jew or Christian (again those who say this is oppressive look at this in more detail in your time because if it was Muslim women would be up in arms about it). But for women they HAVE to convert a Caucasian White Christian or Jew to Islam before they can marry/date them.

You see that's why they may be a little "scornful".



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22 Apr 2008, 1:03 pm

D1nk0 wrote:
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Dude take it from a Muslim that conservative Muslims women are restricted to themselves. That means that I can't "oogle" at them too. If I do it brings shame if I don't it's fine. They do that because they think you are trying to "look them up" which by the way offends most if not every woman on earth.

It's called having honour and most women try to keep that as well as dignity and self respect. By the way I would just like to clarify that Pakistani; Banglasdeshi; Afghanistani and Indian Muslims are NOT Middle-eastern. They are called South Asians. It's not a "White thing"; nothing racial. It's just a new experiance for them. Although don't flirt conservative Muslim women - they find it an invasion of privacy. Now self-respect, confidence and dignity and a good education is what turns them on. They like a man with a clean reputation.


Hey WAIT a second! Firstly, Im not quite sure if the women that Ive looked upon are muslim-or even practicing muslim. If they were practicing muslims then I assume that at the very least they would wear a Hejab in public. Its pretty freaking OBVIOUS to me that women wearing Hejabs(or Abaya's) are OFF LIMITS to look upon! Also, the "middle east" refers to SW asia. It INCLUDES everything east of the Mediterranean and West of Pakistan, bordered on the north by the Caspian Sea and the Caucasus. When I say middle eastern Im NOT exclusively talking about semitic women because NOT everyone in the middle east is semitic! There are ALSO Indo-Iranians in the middle east-notably Persians, Kurds, and Armenians. I was NOT talking about women from the Indian Subcontinent or (south)Central Asia like Afghanistan! I have no doubt that most middle-eastern women, especially those who are muslim assume that white guys ARENT muslim unless they wear a skullcap at minimum.
But the question is: are more moderate muslims expected to only date Other muslims?For those of you who ARENT muslim, WHY are you all being so condescending towards me for bringing up this topic?? Someone else started a thread about Latin women, why are middle eastern women a taboo?



Excuse me, maybe you should learn to READ what I said before making a snide reply.
What I said is that The Middle East is WEST OF PAKISTAN you DumbASS! :wink:
The subject of this thread is NOT Geography, in case you havent noticed. But Im not suprised that you
are so eager to take every oppertunity as a self-professed Muslim to be condescending and snide to an Infidel
like me. :lol: