the "urge"

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Sounds like you have a lot of experience with sex, Cyberman.

At least I'm not a slut...

Oh, Jesus H. M*****f****ing Christ on a popsicle stick! I suppose you believed Ted Bundy when he said he murdered all those women because he'd looked at too much porn! (he said this in a jailhouse interview with a television evangelist, then laughed about how gullible the guy was in a later conversation with a detective).

That is NOT the voice of experience, but the bitter whine of sour grapes (that's a pun, say it out loud).

"A'hm a virgin for Jee-zus"

So you're telling us people who've ACTUALLY HAD SEX are all out stalking the streets, slobbering and gibbering like the frickin' Tasmanian Devil, grunting "MORE SEX!! GOTTA HAVE MORE SEX! C'MERE YOU, I GOTTA SCREW SOMETHING!"

PUH-Leeez...you have got to be f***kin' kiddin' me with that tripe.

I've had sex with two women. Comparing sex to masturbation is like comparing herion to aspirin. There is almost no comparison. I lost my virginity at the age of 21, after agonizing over it since I hit puberty. I regret sleeping with the woman I slept with. Our relationship was a disaster. I only kept it going because I felt guilty for using her for sex. The next woman I slept with I also used for sex. I missed that feeling, and as soon as the opportunity presented itself, I went for it. I didn't continue to lie to her though. We had a one night stand, and then agreed to just be friends. Today, I am willing to wait until I find the woman I intend to marry. As much as I hate it, sex is inextricably linked to commitment in my mind. I can't have casual sex. I think it's important to know what your sexual values are before you have sex. Sex is like a drug. So is romantic love. People do crazy self-destructive things because they think they're "in love" or they want to get laid. I still feel insecure about my lack of experience, but I figure I still have plenty of time to experiment. It's more important to have sex with the right person, in my opinion, but that might just be the Southern Baptist upbringing talking. Also, what do you do after you get laid the first time? Can you handle a committed relationship? Can you love the other person for more than just sex? I can now at age 24. I couldn't at 21 when I lost my virginity. Looking back on it, I realize I wasn't ready yet, but one learns more from ones mistakes than ones successes.

I don't think he meant THAT extreme, just that you're more likely to be rash about sexuality, and end up having sex with someone you shouldn't, or do it unprotected (and suffer the concequences--STD's are a b***h). It's not that everyone who's had sex in the past but doesn't anymore becomes a desperate sex-crazed hornball...just that having it, then not being able to have it anymore can make you more foolish, more reckless about it.

You do almost anything once, you're more likely to do it a second time.

That's where good judgement comes in. Some have it in abundance, while others don't know what it means.

Trying to "get rid of it" is quite a stupid plan, if I may be so brash as to say. You don't just try to run off and have sex just because you can. But if you really want to, go ahead, be my guest, logic kills off people without control. I'm a geographer, I have studied demographics and hear a lot of what if kept from the general public's ears, including the current count of STD's in various areas.

You're both crazy AND impatient. There is virtually no difference between a virgin and someone who isn't. You want sex? That's an understandable urge but why try and waist it with some slut looking just for sex? If you think you can pay a whore and get a wife, you're absolutley crazy. People aren't like that. So my advice is just wait a little, have some faith, find a nice girl, and if possible, maybe another virgin. Then BOTH lose it and you have a better chance of a more enjoyable and long lasting relationship.


I'm 22, I'm a virgin, hell, I've never been on a date or kissed a girl. Most I have is girl I will start dating AFTER I finish my degree in a few months (completing my minor). The urge is big, I know how ya feel. But just looking up girls for an "intimate encounter" is just asking for trouble. It's best if ya wait and find a more solid solution. Make a house of hay, it'll last a week, make it out stone and it'll last a lifetime.

did i say i was going to pay someone? hell no. i specifically said i would NOT.

i want someone i know specifically, and has experience.. i don't just want to lose my virginity, i want to learn things and just "play" for the pleasure..

but damnit, i can't even get love period! dating sites get me nowhere, real life gets me nowhere.. crap, im just going to grow old, lonely, and a virgin.

Ookkaayy..

Street racing friend from japan, whoms a girl, "helped" me out today, and taught me a LOT.

I am now done with this thread.

Alright, need some more advice now.

Even though she said she was only going to teach me things and help me out, she keeps coming back to me as if she's more than a friend now, but we promised to just be friends.

So... what's the problem exactly?

I have no problem, it's just that she said she didn't want to start anything.

It's like now she changed her mind.

We girls will do that. We'll plan to be all objective about something, but then frequently fail.

This may or may not be the case. If you think you might kinda like her too, I'd advise you to give it some time. After awhile, if you still think she's giving you signals that she considers you more then a friend, talk to her about it. Ask her, "so, what are we?" If she just considers you a friend, she will probably tell you at that point. If she blushes or looks embarrassed and stammers through some rant about her feelings, then she likes you.

Or, if she's more forward, she might just come right out with it.

I'll be honest, she's the hottest friend I have that happens to be a girl. I do like her too, it's why I asked her (though embarrassingly and she did hesitate to even answer at first).

I was 22 when I lost 'it' and it dosen't bother me, nor do I understand why it should matter.

I just never found the right person until then and I am still with him to this day. A sad statistic in Newfoundland is the average age of losing your virginity is 14! How horny do you have to be when the only thing on your head is 'gotta get rid of my virginity! Gotta get rid of it now!', it's almost as if being a virgin is a bad and dirty thing.

I don't get it at all.