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25 Sep 2008, 11:00 am

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In the NT world status can get you fear.

Been reading The Prince a lot?
It's basically just being seen to do well. It's a little wierd that it's just as or more important to be seen to be doing well than to actually do well, but hey, corners must be cut in all aspects of life in this frantic modern world.


far not fear sorry dude



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25 Sep 2008, 11:22 am

I go to events alone all the time, concerts, sports games, cinema, ... I dont need company to walk the streets with. That other specific activity requires a female compagnon, so I would also situate myself within the other 30%. I also highly doubt that those figures are right.

Anyway, if the point is just to show off to others that you can get the pretty women (eg a status symbol) then I think that is a bit too vein to be good. It reminds me of people who show off their car or newest trademark of expensive phones to anyone. I would much rather sleep with the girl, as this would at least indicate that I am actually having a relationship (since I reject casual sex)

Hmmm, this could be the new big industry: the "friendship prostitute". You pay just to take a very pretty woman to parties, nights out, etc and she pretends to be your girlfriend. She does everything you ask her apart from sex. It would make prostitution a nice profession almost: no more sexual acts with obese men, but instead going to VIP parties with lonely yet rich businessmen...


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25 Sep 2008, 11:26 am

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Apparently 70% of men are idiots.
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That statement is clearly illogical and goes against the laws of nature. Since you, clearly, don’t understand the laws of nature; you also would not understand why guys do these things.

As some of the other geeks have said, it is a status thing. In the NT world status can get you far. Ironically, seeing a beautiful woman on their arm attracts more women as a result because they think he must have something special about him to attract such a beautiful woman.


Is there an NT world now? Like a parallel universe? Last time I checked me and all other aspies are part of that NT world as you call it. You make it sound like two completely different species seperated by an ocean for whom the other culture is a far away thing. And even then, an ego is not typical to NTs...


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25 Sep 2008, 11:41 am

I think this may be one of those topics where one's opinion is based more on what would be classified as their individual personality than neurological classification.

Personally, armcandy just occurs to me as using a girl like an accessory. Other people will have it occur to them differently, and not even think what I've thought, so I can hardly say they're wrong and I'm right.



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25 Sep 2008, 11:50 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
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Apparently 70% of men are idiots.

Sex is pleasurable; walking around with your girlfriend is probably generally less so (I can imagine a nice conversation on a delightful afternoon would be pleasant).

I really don't get why people would be more interested in being seen by others.

By the way, I don't think Haliphron's obsession with playing dress-up with his hypothetical girlfriend is the reason for most guys.

It has to do with ego, pure and simple. The NT ego is by far the most inflated item on the planet.


I dissagree it has to with the lack of ego and insecurity as to why these individuals perfer that. In general it seems the more people act like they have a ego is a clear sign that they are insecure. I am quiet and most people find me nice but I am egotistical I just don't flaunt it nor do I need any status symbols to help me promote that. The people who are the most secure are usually quiet and nonflashy.

Example: Girl at work made fun of my hair openly in the breakroom. My first thought was the girl had a romantic interest in me. Now alot of people have approached me about the situation but I tell them its not a biggie and I don't really care what she said.

Now said woman has been finding reasons to come talk to me at work and I have just pretended not to know about what she said. In that time she has admittedly said many things that show her lack of self esteem meanwhile she has made fun of me because of my hair but the problem was with her lack of self esteem not my hair.



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25 Sep 2008, 12:12 pm

Abangyarudo wrote:
I dissagree it has to with the lack of ego and insecurity as to why these individuals perfer that. In general it seems the more people act like they have a ego is a clear sign that they are insecure. I am quiet and most people find me nice but I am egotistical I just don't flaunt it nor do I need any status symbols to help me promote that. The people who are the most secure are usually quiet and nonflashy.

Well that's what I was getting at. It's about the ego, or, as you pointed out, lack thereof, for the very reasons you stated.

Another possibility is that since NT society is, by definition, deceptive, so NT's have the burden of proof upon them. Whereas if I said I had sex with someone, so long as I have been in the same room as the woman in question in the past 24 hours, people would generally believe me. (Although if I had lied in that statement my credibility would suffer and then in future instances the burden of proof would be upon me as well)

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Example: Girl at work made fun of my hair openly in the breakroom. My first thought was the girl had a romantic interest in me. Now alot of people have approached me about the situation but I tell them its not a biggie and I don't really care what she said.

Now said woman has been finding reasons to come talk to me at work and I have just pretended not to know about what she said. In that time she has admittedly said many things that show her lack of self esteem meanwhile she has made fun of me because of my hair but the problem was with her lack of self esteem not my hair.


Yeah, she likes you... she's switching up tactics to try and see what gets through to you...



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25 Sep 2008, 12:20 pm

Aspie_Chav wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
Apparently 70% of men are idiots.
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That statement is clearly illogical and goes against the laws of nature. Since you, clearly, don’t understand the laws of nature; you also would not understand why guys do these things.

As some of the other geeks have said, it is a status thing. In the NT world status can get you far. Ironically, seeing a beautiful woman on their arm attracts more women as a result because they think he must have something special about him to attract such a beautiful woman.


I couldnt have said it better myself :wink: . The world we live in most certainly IS status oriented and both men AND women desire status and seek to convey high status to others. But yeah, rich people who flaunt their wealth by driving expensive cars and wearing fancy clothes are doing such to show others that they made it big. IOW, they didnt grow up with wealth but recently acquired it. Perhaps the same could be said for me. Since I had to put up with being low status and being considered a "dork" and weird; having a hot gf on my arm just might make people think that despite all that I clearly have Some status since I got a cute girl.



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25 Sep 2008, 2:12 pm

Haliphron wrote:
I couldnt have said it better myself :wink: . The world we live in most certainly IS status oriented and both men AND women desire status and seek to convey high status to others. But yeah, rich people who flaunt their wealth by driving expensive cars and wearing fancy clothes are doing such to show others that they made it big. IOW, they didnt grow up with wealth but recently acquired it. Perhaps the same could be said for me. Since I had to put up with being low status and being considered a "dork" and weird; having a hot gf on my arm just might make people think that despite all that I clearly have Some status since I got a cute girl.

Why do you care about what random strangers think? Why not concern yourself with something meaningful, or at least fun, instead?



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25 Sep 2008, 2:22 pm

^I dont know if I can explain my feelings any further than I already have. Those of you who are chastizing me for being insecure, I have a sneaky suspicion you're doing so to try to make yourselves seem like a "good person" :roll: . You cant tell people how they should feel and expect to actually change their emotional state. Just cuz you dont care what others think doesnt mean everyone else feels that way too.