Does anyone else just not see the point in marriage?

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03 Dec 2008, 1:17 pm

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Well if someone in unhappy in a relationship they should be able to break up or thats when it gets screwed up and the "typical marriage problems" happen.


There are no "typical marriage problems." There may be "typical topics that invoke marriage problems" but everyone is different as is every marriage and every set of problems/issues that go with them.

I strongly disagree that married people should be able to bolt - especially in a marriage with children. Getting married (or legally unionized or whatever) should be a stronger bond. If you're not willing to get married, that's fine, you'll have to find a partner that is satisfied with the level of commitment you're willing to provide.

I think you're grossly mistaken if you think that getting married causes the problems. It's more likely "maturation of the relationship" where the couple isn't liking how things are changing (or what they're finding out about their partner).



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03 Dec 2008, 1:34 pm

Definitely disagree.

#1. My husband would not be able to work in the US if we weren't married. There is no other way for Canadian citizens to work in the US at the present time that don't have the ability to get sponsored by a company.

#2. Tax breaks are huge. Last year we had 100% of our income tax returned because I'm in school full time and he is working full time and we filed jointly.

#3. Being married prevents a lot of creepy guys from hitting on me.

#4. The comfort of knowing that neither one of us can up and leave all of the sudden.

#5. Social status. Being married officially launches you into the mature responsible adult category. Yeah not everyone will agree with that, but it's a general rule in our society that you're "settled down" once you're married.

#6. Done with all the dating stress. I don't give a crap what guys think about me for the most part because I know I will probably never have to impress them.

I could keep going.

And our "wedding" cost $10 in the county clerk's office to fill out the common law marriage declaration.


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03 Dec 2008, 2:10 pm

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I disagree... years ago, I might not have. I'm not religious, and neither is my fiance... there is not a religious motivation between us, we do not plan on having children, and we're not driven by financial factors. But we also recognize the power of commitment and the strength of symbolism, and know what we mean to each other after being intrinsically involved in each others life over the past eight years. We've talking about the wedding and costs, and remind ourselves that it is being wed to each other, not the wedding, that we truly care about.


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Basically, this. I didn't used to want to marry, and I'm married currently for benefits to my guy friend, and may remarry soon if my current relationship pans out. In that case, it's the symbolism. The marriage won't be very expensive at all, and it should allow him to live in the US, to boot.

So, lots of good all around, in this case. Otherwise, I just care about being together, marriage or not. It's just a show of our commitment.



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03 Dec 2008, 2:49 pm

*nods* We wish to wed because we want to, not out of obligation or necessity. I can understand practical marriages or unions for benefits under the system some countries have in place, as well... I think we see things similarly.


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03 Dec 2008, 4:12 pm

Marriage is basically a contract between two people to live together and share life. The husband provides a home and stability and the wife provides nurturing and care. It's also needed if you raise children. It's not a necessary thing until it's needed for legal reasons. Like providing benefits upon death or as part of a job perk. It can mean as much or as little as someone wants it to be. Kind of a personal choice too.


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03 Dec 2008, 4:31 pm

I agree with DeLoreanDude. I ain't never getting married, OR having kids.

I probably won't ever need to make the decision, anyway. Boys in general don't like me, cos I antagonise everyone without meaning to. Damn, it sucks being me.


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03 Dec 2008, 6:21 pm

Butterflair wrote:
Marriage is basically a contract between two people to live together and share life. The husband provides a home and stability and the wife provides nurturing and care. It's also needed if you raise children. It's not a necessary thing until it's needed for legal reasons. Like providing benefits upon death or as part of a job perk. It can mean as much or as little as someone wants it to be. Kind of a personal choice too.

Those gender roles and being broken pretty frequently now.


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03 Dec 2008, 6:24 pm

Kirska wrote:
And our "wedding" cost $10 in the county clerk's office to fill out the common law marriage declaration.


If only I could get away with that...

unfortunately, I think my parents would kill me if I didn't have a reception, as bad as some overblown expensive party seems to me...



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03 Dec 2008, 7:38 pm

makuranososhi wrote:
we also recognize the power of commitment and the strength of symbolism, and know what we mean to each other after being intrinsically involved in each others life over the past eight years. We've talking about the wedding and costs, and remind ourselves that it is being wed to each other, not the wedding, that we truly care about.


Brilliant!



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03 Dec 2008, 11:13 pm

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makuranososhi wrote:
we also recognize the power of commitment and the strength of symbolism, and know what we mean to each other after being intrinsically involved in each others life over the past eight years. We've talking about the wedding and costs, and remind ourselves that it is being wed to each other, not the wedding, that we truly care about.


Brilliant!


Guinness, anyone? I think it was well said earlier - it's a personal decision as to the personal value, but it doesn't lessen its intrinsic importance to those who do choose to get married. And that decision can be practical, financial, romantic, platonic - anything, because for -their- reason, it has import.


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04 Dec 2008, 12:01 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
Kirska wrote:
And our "wedding" cost $10 in the county clerk's office to fill out the common law marriage declaration.


If only I could get away with that...

unfortunately, I think my parents would kill me if I didn't have a reception, as bad as some overblown expensive party seems to me...

So would mine. I have some cousins that won't tell their children I even live with him. Ask me if I care :P

That's the nice thing about marriage. It is entirely your own thing.


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04 Dec 2008, 1:54 am

for some there is a piont
Just because it has n pint to you does not mean it has no point to all.



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04 Dec 2008, 2:31 am

Not that it matters because I don't have the alpha status needed for it to make a difference but I've seen too many marriages turn sour to believe in it. Love is a brittle and ephemeral thing, it makes no sense to form a permanent bond over something unlikely to last more than a few more months.



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04 Dec 2008, 2:32 am

ive seen many long lasting till death till us part marriages not to belive it can be done



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04 Dec 2008, 2:34 am

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
I agree with DeLoreanDude. I ain't never getting married, OR having kids.

I probably won't ever need to make the decision, anyway. Boys in general don't like me, cos I antagonise everyone without meaning to. Damn, it sucks being me.


Lol I am the same with girls except one of course :D



04 Dec 2008, 4:04 am

I used to not see a point in it either but now it makes sense. You get a break on taxes when you're married. So get married and you get less money taken out of in taxes so you bring home more money on your paycheck.