Is sex only for two people who love each other?

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actually, i 100% agree to this.

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Glad to hear it - I was surprised so many seem willing to dictate what others should or shouldn't do based on what they want for themselves...

Nice Walter Benjamin quote.

Sex is only for two people that are comfortable having sex with each other. I could never have sex with someone I don't love/doesn't love me back, but that's just me. It would be ridiculous to tell everyone else that this is how they should live.


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oh, i see. so the questioner was disturbed by craig's mother procuring sex for him? that makes sense. that is disturbing to me too.

Thanks John - I'd like to ad that as controversial as they seem, I enjoy your threads - your interest seems genuine, not meant to bait people.

"Procuring" has very strong connotations which don't make for a warranted interpretation . Craig is obviously posing as his mother because he falsely believes that people will be more sympathetic toward his desire to have sex if it is his mother who is requesting help. Since nobody is sympathetic toward a man who can't get any it seems like a very natural experiment.

The kind of help being requested is along the lines of reasonable practical advice.

He finds something disturbing about a person wanting sex and then he projects the worst possible connotation onto the questioner.

Thank you. Perhaps its your more balanced European sensibilities.

i didn't find that obvious at all. why would it be obvious to the person who posted that?

Bad spelling, the terseness of the letter, the unlikelihood of a mother asking that question on this forum, and the conspicuous choice to include her name in the post when she could have just as well signed of as Craigs Mom. Although it should be obvious to us because he has already talked about his families indifference to his desire to have sex.

I've never been "promiscuous", although I've had several different sexual partners before getting married. I don't like to be touched by people I don't feel an emotional connection with - even hand shakes are unpleasant. But I see no reason why others shouldn't live their lives the way they see fit. And you're right, I'm more familiar with non-religious cultures that see sex or nudity in a very natural, down to earth way.

I think it's stupid how society moralises everything so much, from sex to money, there's always unnecessary sigma brought along by pointless moral extremists

I vote no. You dont have to be in love to have sex. I'm married and have only had 2 partners in my life, but when I first had sex with them - I certainly was not in love with them. I did it because I wanted to. It's fun. It doesn't make me a slut, it never made me feel dirty. It was all for that maximum pleasure 'high'. I really don't care about the whole love-sex thing. It's not why I have sex. I do it for the thrill. If theres no thrill to sex then its boring and I don't enjoy it. Why have boring sex? I'm certainly not addicted to it though and really could go wihtout it, but if I am going to have it - then it better be fun. It's not the be-all end-all, I'm not out there banging everyone, but if I were still single, yeah - I would partake in loveless sex. People who enjoy sex aren't sluts/whores... sluts and whores are the people who smile and act nice to your face and then when you walk out of the room they try to make out with your husband/wife.

Man and Yes. I have to be a little careful with the way I say this because I don't want to land this thread in the mature folder, though I think you can sub in the words that I'm not using.

Its not to say that people won't do it, I can't say that I've never done it or will never do it in the future either - just that its far from what I'd prefer. Being in love with someone is the line between sex/making love and two people self-stimulating off of each other. Aside from what some people might consider bragging rights, there's very little difference between one-night stands and people taking care of themselves in private, except for obviously the risks.

Yes, its a semantic argument but, its also a qualitative one as well.

Is there a problem that you have regarding my personal life? I am calling you out, explain yourself. No? You live your life and I'll live mine. I'm not being blasted by anyone, not since I had to fight for the right to get laid. Again, I'm calling you out, explain yourself.

that OP was about was your situation? then why aren't you angry at JohnisBlind for posting this thread in the first place? he invited criticism and conversation about your situation.... i didn't. i didn't call out anybody at all - he did. i had no idea it was you. if you have a problem having people discuss your personal life, please ask the mods to close the thread. it wasn't my doing, so don't bother getting angry with me.