Why are a lot of women on here so hypocritical???

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21 Oct 2010, 5:44 pm

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[Has anyone heard of the university based "will you have sex with me tonight?" study. It's a good one.


I have not. But I don't even want to know what I would find if I googled that phrase in an attempt to find it.



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21 Oct 2010, 5:50 pm

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I know , i know ...... the basis of evolutionary psychology and all this sh**.

Ironically , I had experienced this week what even a possible better "status" can magically do. It seems that there have been a rumor running around my workplace (since monday) that I will get promoted to a much higher position (which is partially true) and all of the sudden that girl who previously rejected to have lunch with me (during work time) and bluntly refused my dance advance in some event (when I was the entry level employee back then) started to flirt me left and right, complimenting my clothings , asking me what perfume I am wearing , asking me what I am doing while she leaning herself on my shoulder while I am sitting , coming all way from her office to ask me if I want some candy from the shop , sending me hi's on the internal instant messenger...... gawd, she's just a nuisance now.

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and there's also that other girl that she was used to ask what's my first name for zillion times every time I talk to her , out of the blue, now she talks to me and she knows my full name! This is really miraculous : hear the miracle[/quote

A naturalistic case study in action! Wish I could have been there to take notes, compare previous and current data, etc. I think maybe I am too psychology obsessed. And derailing the thread.

Has anyone heard of the university based "will you have sex with me tonight?" study. It's a good one.

yes, i have the book "Elephants on Acid and Other Bizarre Experiments", and the experiment is in there. fascinating. and weird.


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21 Oct 2010, 6:07 pm

nothing suprising in the study, but it's sort of annoying. a high percentage of men on a college campus said they would have sex with a moderately attractive and unfamiliar interviewer. she said something like, "i find you attractive. would you go to bed with me?"

when faced with the same question by a male surveyer, women ALL said no and reacted with shock and anger.

it was a high percentage of the men who said yes- can't remember how many (75% or something), but it makes me sad because a whole bunch of those guys must have been in relationships. sick that they would throw it all away for some random woman.


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21 Oct 2010, 7:00 pm

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nothing suprising in the study, but it's sort of annoying. a high percentage of men on a college campus said they would have sex with a moderately attractive and unfamiliar interviewer. she said something like, "i find you attractive. would you go to bed with me?"

when faced with the same question by a male surveyer, women ALL said no and reacted with shock and anger.

it was a high percentage of the men who said yes- can't remember how many (75% or something), but it makes me sad because a whole bunch of those guys must have been in relationships. sick that they would throw it all away for some random woman.


Unfortunately, the numbers were higher than that. The study has been replicated a few times (I honestly don't know how they get it past ethics though) and generally the numbers were more like 80-90%.


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22 Oct 2010, 4:20 pm

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I also want to say that there is no such thing as out of your league, there are enough ugly girls with hot guys or ugly guys with hot girls, why should you settle for something if it's not what you want, if you really want something you should work for it even if you think it's impossible. I hope you can understand what I mean, English is not my native language so I'm not able to explain it that clearly.


If you are an ugly guy/girl and you don't want to settle for an ugly girl/guy then why should a pretty girl or good looking guy settle for you?


I don't quite understand what the meaning of your post is. Obviously there are ugly guys that have hot girlfriends, are you trying to disapprove or am I wrong in thinking this? And to answer question, because hot guys/girls don't think of it as settling, they actually like the persons personality and are attracted to him even though he/she might not be that good looking. Oh and btw I have a friend who keeps dating the most hideous girls, different preferences etc.


No, I'm not saying you're wrong. It just seems like common sense to me that if you don't want to date someone because you find them unattractive, then you shouldn't expect people to want to date you if you're unattractive yourself. It's much more realistic to gauge your own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 and then try dating someone in your own range.

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I'm not saying that at all, ugly people can date based on personality and looks same goes for the hot people. When I talk about ugly people settling, I'm referring to people who have low self esteem or are depressed etc, they feel lonely and they settle for someone to feel less lonely or to have sex or whatever.


I don't understand, it appears that you're contradicting yourself here. It looks like you're assuming that some ugly people "settle" for other ugly people for the purposes of dating out of low self-esteem but then you say it could be because they like their personality? I'm just saying that if you're a little unattractive yourself, then maybe giving other slightly unattractive people a chance may improve your chances. Why do think you wouldn't like their personality?



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22 Oct 2010, 4:55 pm

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A naturalistic case study in action! Wish I could have been there to take notes, compare previous and current data, etc. I think maybe I am too psychology obsessed. And derailing the thread.

Has anyone heard of the university based "will you have sex with me tonight?" study. It's a good one.


I am flattered!
You want to study me that close? Image Day and night ? Everywhere and everytime? ;) Making diagrams about me? Taking photos and describing my behaviors? 8)



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22 Oct 2010, 5:16 pm

I'm a pretty average-looking aspie and so is the bf. I don't even think about relationships that way, though. It's not a case of trying to get the best deal. I think people have too much of a consumer-based model of love. I have more of an infection-based model of love - it infects you under the right circumstances. You can either treat it to make it go away if the situation won't work, or you can choose to live with the illness if it's pleasant enough.



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22 Oct 2010, 7:51 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sunshower wrote:
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A naturalistic case study in action! Wish I could have been there to take notes, compare previous and current data, etc. I think maybe I am too psychology obsessed. And derailing the thread.

Has anyone heard of the university based "will you have sex with me tonight?" study. It's a good one.


I am flattered!
You want to study me that close? Image Day and night ? Everywhere and everytime? ;) Making diagrams about me? Taking photos and describing my behaviors? 8)



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22 Oct 2010, 9:52 pm

Hyperlexian, you make it sound like more than a small percentage of college students would be in a LTR.

Secondly, women are generally known to be emotional crock pots; if they're willing to cheat, it's pretty unlikely to be with someone they just met. I've mutually flirted with most of my at-the-time attached female friends to an extent that'd make a normal monogamous guy angry.

Thirdly, men will always cheat more than women because they are less emotional and sex is more pleasurable for us; this is for biological reasons. Over several posts, you're sounding like a man-hater; cut it out... or you'll make a very powerless enemy ;-)

hyperlexian wrote:
nothing suprising in the study, but it's sort of annoying. a high percentage of men on a college campus said they would have sex with a moderately attractive and unfamiliar interviewer. she said something like, "i find you attractive. would you go to bed with me?"

when faced with the same question by a male surveyer, women ALL said no and reacted with shock and anger.

it was a high percentage of the men who said yes- can't remember how many (75% or something), but it makes me sad because a whole bunch of those guys must have been in relationships. sick that they would throw it all away for some random woman.



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22 Oct 2010, 10:06 pm

Hyperlexian, you're being ironically superficial in not looking into the deeper meaning of my commentary on visual attractiveness and superficiality :-p You're taking one of the definitions of superficiality too literally.

I'll frame things differently: let's use a hypothetical person who's highly attracted to physically appealing people, at the exclusion of many other factors. Who's the [potential] victim and why?

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Hyperlexian, a lot can often be determined about a person just by looking at them, but I'm generally speaking from the context of whether a certain attraction to someone is a good idea to chase or not. If physical attraction is a good selling point for someone and it has staying power long term with someone (e.g. they don't stop caring some time in that their partner's hott), then it's not superficial for them. For a short term fling, the bar's lowered even more because you don't care how attractive a person or feature of a person will be long from now. Is this making sense?

i am not sure what you are saying, because looks are a superficial quality - the word itself means :

being at, on, or near the surface


a person can't judge someone by their looks, or select someone according to outward attractiveness, without it being superficial by definition. yes i know some people really are that shallow, but it is a bad thing and not a good thing. it reduces people to their outer shell and ignores the wonderful things inside.



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22 Oct 2010, 10:57 pm

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Hyperlexian, you make it sound like more than a small percentage of college students would be in a LTR.

Secondly, women are generally known to be emotional crock pots; if they're willing to cheat, it's pretty unlikely to be with someone they just met. I've mutually flirted with most of my at-the-time attached female friends to an extent that'd make a normal monogamous guy angry.

Thirdly, men will always cheat more than women because they are less emotional and sex is more pleasurable for us; this is for biological reasons. Over several posts, you're sounding like a man-hater; cut it out... or you'll make a very powerless enemy ;-)

hyperlexian wrote:
nothing suprising in the study, but it's sort of annoying. a high percentage of men on a college campus said they would have sex with a moderately attractive and unfamiliar interviewer. she said something like, "i find you attractive. would you go to bed with me?"

when faced with the same question by a male surveyer, women ALL said no and reacted with shock and anger.

it was a high percentage of the men who said yes- can't remember how many (75% or something), but it makes me sad because a whole bunch of those guys must have been in relationships. sick that they would throw it all away for some random woman.

nope, i love men. but who cares if you think i hate men? my husband is very, very satsified with our relationship, and that's what matters - not what random people in a forum think.

i said the study annoyed me because i try to think that men should be above behaviour like that if they are in a relationship. i don't know the percent of college men who are in relationships of any sort, so i am not sure how many of the men would have been cheating if they had gone ahead with it. hard to find stats on that, so right now i am not sure either way.

emotional crock-pots. 8O that's kind of a weird thing to say. flirting is not equal to sex anyways. but... why were you flirting with them like that if you knew it would make other men mad? takes two to tango.


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22 Oct 2010, 11:02 pm

Preston wrote:
Hyperlexian, you're being ironically superficial in not looking into the deeper meaning of my commentary on visual attractiveness and superficiality :-p You're taking one of the definitions of superficiality too literally.

I'll frame things differently: let's use a hypothetical person who's highly attracted to physically appealing people, at the exclusion of many other factors. Who's the [potential] victim and why?

hyperlexian wrote:
Preston wrote:
Hyperlexian, a lot can often be determined about a person just by looking at them, but I'm generally speaking from the context of whether a certain attraction to someone is a good idea to chase or not. If physical attraction is a good selling point for someone and it has staying power long term with someone (e.g. they don't stop caring some time in that their partner's hott), then it's not superficial for them. For a short term fling, the bar's lowered even more because you don't care how attractive a person or feature of a person will be long from now. Is this making sense?

i am not sure what you are saying, because looks are a superficial quality - the word itself means :

being at, on, or near the surface


a person can't judge someone by their looks, or select someone according to outward attractiveness, without it being superficial by definition. yes i know some people really are that shallow, but it is a bad thing and not a good thing. it reduces people to their outer shell and ignores the wonderful things inside.

i didn't say there was a victim. i said that it is superficial to select mates based on physical appearance. if it is the main criterion for selecting potential mates, it will seriously limit a person's dating pool. apparently it is especially true if a person does not have equally valuable traits, or if a person is not particularly good-looking themselves. but i'm just basing that on what other people say - i don't give a crap about that kind of stuff myself.


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23 Oct 2010, 4:23 pm

sunshower wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sunshower wrote:
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A naturalistic case study in action! Wish I could have been there to take notes, compare previous and current data, etc. I think maybe I am too psychology obsessed. And derailing the thread.

Has anyone heard of the university based "will you have sex with me tonight?" study. It's a good one.


I am flattered!
You want to study me that close? Image Day and night ? Everywhere and everytime? ;) Making diagrams about me? Taking photos and describing my behaviors? 8)



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8O

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23 Oct 2010, 8:27 pm

I have to wonder if there's some credibility in this article about shaming language? That looks suspiciously like Code Red, for instance.



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23 Oct 2010, 9:36 pm

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I want a good looking guy even if im not good looking


A lot of men are like this as well. In fact, I'm one of those guys who wants a thin woman even though I'm overweight (although I am shedding pounds).


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23 Oct 2010, 11:01 pm

BrandonSP wrote:
ApsieGuy wrote:
I want a good looking guy even if im not good looking


A lot of men are like this as well. In fact, I'm one of those guys who wants a thin woman even though I'm overweight (although I am shedding pounds).


Aspie Guy is just trolling.

I've seen more men complain about the things he's listed than women. The latest a member was saying "Im a lonely nerd and I want a hot NT"