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I am a male and I prefer overweight women 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
I am a male and I prefer thin/curvy women 39%  39%  [ 35 ]
I am a male and I am indifferent regarding women's weight. 13%  13%  [ 12 ]
I am a female and I prefer overweight men 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
I am a female and I prefer thin/atheletic men 17%  17%  [ 15 ]
I am a female and I am indifferent regarding men's weight. 19%  19%  [ 17 ]
I am gay and I want to see the results. 8%  8%  [ 7 ]
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29 Mar 2011, 8:50 pm

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If I didn't initiate, I would never have had a boyfriend. I had to make the first move because guys don't want to pursue me, I guess. Psssh, I can't even please myself (take that anyway you want and chances are, you'll be right). I'm irritated that I look this way. I bust my ass to lose weight but I still have a long way to go and I hope I don't peak anytime soon. I've been fat because of medications since I was 10, making me a social pariah back home. I was referred to as a monster on a regular basis because girls aren't supposed to look like me. They're supposed to have clear skin, hourglass figure, a sweet smile, flawless hair and make-up, etc. I deviated from that norm and was shunned for it. It wasn't that I didn't want to be like the other girls, I just couldn't. My genes are flawed and I hate them. >.<


Nonsense!


Think what you will but you know it's true. If girls like me were beautiful, why are guys ashamed to admit to their friends that they're dating a chubby girl? Why is anyone over a size 10 airbrushed down to a size 6 on magazines? Why is the weight loss industry making more money now than ever? Because everyone hates fat people, even the fat people themselves. We're told that we're wrong so we have to deprive ourselves of food, workout until we pass out and sometimes throw up our meals in hopes that we'll be beautiful and that men will finally appreciate us.



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29 Mar 2011, 9:04 pm

Erisad, you don't HAVE to deprive yourself of food, exercise till you pass out, etc. You have a choice. No once is holding a gin to your head telling you to conform. Are they?



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29 Mar 2011, 9:15 pm

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Erisad, you don't HAVE to deprive yourself of food, exercise till you pass out, etc. You have a choice. No once is holding a gin to your head telling you to conform. Are they?


I'm forcing myself to conform. I can't live with myself like this. So yes, I have to so I can achieve a resemblance of what a woman should be. As of now, I feel like a genderless blob and I don't want to be that. :(



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29 Mar 2011, 9:48 pm

Now that's just plain silly.

Being overweight doesn't take away your gender. If you have boobs and a womb and female genitalia and female DNA, you are a woman. Be you fat or thin, tall or short, black or white, Aspie or NT: honey, you're a woman.

You're saying you want to feel like a more ATTRACTIVE one.

Don't we all?



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29 Mar 2011, 10:06 pm

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Now that's just plain silly.

Being overweight doesn't take away your gender. If you have boobs and a womb and female genitalia and female DNA, you are a woman. Be you fat or thin, tall or short, black or white, Aspie or NT: honey, you're a woman.

You're saying you want to feel like a more ATTRACTIVE one.

Don't we all?


I meant that I'm not treated as a woman because of my shape. I feel that I'm overlooked as a possible date because of my weight. In this society, being attractive is everything.



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29 Mar 2011, 10:17 pm

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Think what you will but you know it's true. If girls like me were beautiful, why are guys ashamed to admit to their friends that they're dating a chubby girl? Why is anyone over a size 10 airbrushed down to a size 6 on magazines? Why is the weight loss industry making more money now than ever? Because everyone hates fat people, even the fat people themselves. We're told that we're wrong so we have to deprive ourselves of food, workout until we pass out and sometimes throw up our meals in hopes that we'll be beautiful and that men will finally appreciate us.


@Erisad, any guy who's ashamed to admit to their friends that they're dating a chubby girl is a p#ssy. I agree with you that society is very tough on larger people. Everyone feels sorry for the anorexic, and scorns the obese. Odd reaction, considering both conditions are the result of eating disorders - which are typically the result of emotional trauma.

I'm not going to go all Pollyanna on you and tell you that your perceptions of the world are wrong, because they're not. Mean people suck, and they're always looking for someone to criticize, blame, and ridicule - overweight people are easy targets. There is one thing that I will disagree with you about - your statement that fat people hate themselves. I've been large and I've been small, and I never hated myself. No matter what size my body has been at any point in my life, I've always been a decent, kind, smart, loving, attractive person. Nobody could ever take that away from me, because it's mine. No man gave that to me; no man's d!ck gave that to me. Honestly, no man is responsible for anything that's been consistently good in my adult life. No man ever handed me a happy life - I did that for myself. (I'm not male-bashing here, guys - I'm making very specific statements about the men I've been involved with.)

My point is that if you want to change your body, do it for yourself - not for some random guy. Do it because you'll feel better about yourself, you'll have more energy, you'll have more choices about how you want to live your life....do it to be kind to yourself - do it because you f#cking well deserve it, sister. Yes, skinny girls have more choices when it comes to men (all you have to do is post some sleazy underwear shots on the internet and middle-aged men from half-way around the world will be fighting each other to wire you money for "plane tickets") - but are those the men you want to attract? Guys who are stupid enough to believe some creepy troll from halfway around the world posting sleazy pics is actually a brainy, hypersexual, f#ckbot who can't wait to visit? :roll: C'mon, @Erisad - you're better than that.

If you don't respect who you are because of what you look like, then either change your mindset or change your body. But whatever you do, do it to earn your own self-respect. I predict you'll find that when you make that kind of change, you'll see benefits that are far longer lasting and more meaningful than those that any random relationship can provide. When you feel better about yourself, the people in your life get a sense of that...and things will start to change - for the better - in lots of ways.


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29 Mar 2011, 10:22 pm

Well then, screw society, and just be yourself.

If society approves of you, it's probably a bad sign.

Society disapproves of me, too. I have my own dress sense, I don't wear makeup, and I have just about every physical flaw society is telling me needs to be "fixed." Cellulite, scars, lines, saggy bits, hairy bits, stretch marks, etc. I'm not a perfect woman. Just a real one. And I'm happy being real. The perfect woman does not exist. If she does, she's the product of airbrushing or surgery or obsessive exercise or makeup artists or anorexia or all of the above. They're selling you a lie. And it's your choice to be unhappy if you wish to believe it.



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29 Mar 2011, 10:30 pm

LMAO at HopeGrows scathing reference to a certain Ms WeAllKnowWho, who has captured the attentions of certain male members

AHEM!

LMAO

There are certain things I could and would say about my feelings on the subject, but, well, it's a free country and people can post pics of whatever they like.



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29 Mar 2011, 10:30 pm

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Erisad wrote:
Think what you will but you know it's true. If girls like me were beautiful, why are guys ashamed to admit to their friends that they're dating a chubby girl? Why is anyone over a size 10 airbrushed down to a size 6 on magazines? Why is the weight loss industry making more money now than ever? Because everyone hates fat people, even the fat people themselves. We're told that we're wrong so we have to deprive ourselves of food, workout until we pass out and sometimes throw up our meals in hopes that we'll be beautiful and that men will finally appreciate us.


@Erisad, any guy who's ashamed to admit to their friends that they're dating a chubby girl is a p#ssy. I agree with you that society is very tough on larger people. Everyone feels sorry for the anorexic, and scorns the obese. Odd reaction, considering both conditions are the result of eating disorders - which are typically the result of emotional trauma.

I'm not going to go all Pollyanna on you and tell you that your perceptions of the world are wrong, because they're not. Mean people suck, and they're always looking for someone to criticize, blame, and ridicule - overweight people are easy targets. There is one thing that I will disagree with you about - your statement that fat people hate themselves. I've been large and I've been small, and I never hated myself. No matter what size my body has been at any point in my life, I've always been a decent, kind, smart, loving, attractive person. Nobody could ever take that away from me, because it's mine. No man gave that to me; no man's d!ck gave that to me. Honestly, no man is responsible for anything that's been consistently good in my adult life. No man ever handed me a happy life - I did that for myself. (I'm not male-bashing here, guys - I'm making very specific statements about the men I've been involved with.)

My point is that if you want to change your body, do it for yourself - not for some random guy. Do it because you'll feel better about yourself, you'll have more energy, you'll have more choices about how you want to live your life....do it to be kind to yourself - do it because you f#cking well deserve it, sister. Yes, skinny girls have more choices when it comes to men (all you have to do is post some sleazy underwear shots on the internet and middle-aged men from half-way around the world will be fighting each other to wire you money for "plane tickets") - but are those the men you want to attract? Guys who are stupid enough to believe some creepy troll from halfway around the world posting sleazy pics is actually a brainy, hypersexual, f#ckbot who can't wait to visit? :roll: C'mon, @Erisad - you're better than that.

If you don't respect who you are because of what you look like, then either change your mindset or change your body. But whatever you do, do it to earn your own self-respect. I predict you'll find that when you make that kind of change, you'll see benefits that are far longer lasting and more meaningful than those that any random relationship can provide. When you feel better about yourself, the people in your life get a sense of that...and things will start to change - for the better - in lots of ways.


I'm a writer, chances are I'm going to be poor since Americans don't like reading anymore. So if I want to be able to live away from my mother, I need to find a spouse. So basically, becoming attractive is a means for me to survive. I'm either going to get the support of a man or be forced to live with my mom for the rest of my life. I don't want the latter so I have to lose weight. If I was able to be self-sufficient, I wouldn't care but I can't.



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29 Mar 2011, 10:43 pm

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Cellulite, scars, lines, saggy bits, hairy bits, stretch marks, etc. I'm not a perfect woman. Just a real one. And I'm happy being real. The perfect woman does not exist. If she does, she's the product of airbrushing or surgery or obsessive exercise or makeup artists or anorexia or all of the above. They're selling you a lie. And it's your choice to be unhappy if you wish to believe it.


Yeeeeeooooo! ;)



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29 Mar 2011, 11:15 pm

Erisad wrote:
Think what you will but you know it's true. If girls like me were beautiful, why are guys ashamed to admit to their friends that they're dating a chubby girl? Why is anyone over a size 10 airbrushed down to a size 6 on magazines? Why is the weight loss industry making more money now than ever? Because everyone hates fat people, even the fat people themselves. We're told that we're wrong so we have to deprive ourselves of food, workout until we pass out and sometimes throw up our meals in hopes that we'll be beautiful and that men will finally appreciate us.


I actually did see a picture of you in one of the picture threads. It was the one of you with your friend, looked like you two were sitting at a table eating dinner. You are absolutely beautiful, and I think you have a very attractive body. In my opinion, you have nothing to worry about. As I said before, the guys in your past were a$$holes, plain and simple. Oh, I like the blonde hair too. :)



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30 Mar 2011, 5:11 am

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Everyone feels sorry for the anorexic, and scorns the obese. Odd reaction, considering both conditions are the result of eating disorders.



BULL.


Anorexia IS an eating disorder.
Obesity is a height/weight ratio that's the result of a dozen factors.


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30 Mar 2011, 5:22 am

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I'm a writer, chances are I'm going to be poor since Americans don't like reading anymore. So if I want to be able to live away from my mother, I need to find a spouse. So basically, becoming attractive is a means for me to survive. I'm either going to get the support of a man or be forced to live with my mom for the rest of my life. I don't want the latter so I have to lose weight. If I was able to be self-sufficient, I wouldn't care but I can't.


The other option is to look for housemates. Rent is generally then affordable on a low income.



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30 Mar 2011, 5:41 am

Erisad wrote:

I'm a writer, chances are I'm going to be poor since Americans don't like reading anymore. So if I want to be able to live away from my mother, I need to find a spouse. So basically, becoming attractive is a means for me to survive. I'm either going to get the support of a man or be forced to live with my mom for the rest of my life. I don't want the latter so I have to lose weight. If I was able to be self-sufficient, I wouldn't care but I can't.


That's actually more or less how I feel-
not because I fear my profession might not be lucrative, but because I don't have a degree at all,
and don't know if I'm going to be able to maintain some semblance of functionality long enough to get one.
My parents are very controlling- I got yelled at for not calling my mother yesterday when I was sick in bed.
(Ironic because my mother cancelled week-long plans we had to meet on sunday because she had a headache.)

So, yes, I can't imagine many fat girls are very successful in finding a partner or spouse willing to support them.


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30 Mar 2011, 7:04 am

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Erisad wrote:
I'm a writer, chances are I'm going to be poor since Americans don't like reading anymore. So if I want to be able to live away from my mother, I need to find a spouse. So basically, becoming attractive is a means for me to survive. I'm either going to get the support of a man or be forced to live with my mom for the rest of my life. I don't want the latter so I have to lose weight. If I was able to be self-sufficient, I wouldn't care but I can't.


The other option is to look for housemates. Rent is generally then affordable on a low income.


That too. One of my possible housemates won't graduate until 2 years after I do. So I'll be living at home for at least that long. Hopefully I don't go crazy. If Grandma dies before then, I'll lose my home as her will specifies that the home is to be sold and the money is to be split among her four kids, even though my mother made mortgage payments and did more for grandma than the rest of her kids did but we're the ones that get screwed. :/

emuman100 - Was I wearing a pink dress and sipping tea while imitating Dr. Evil? That pic's old. Either way, that's how I look generally. *shrug* Thanks for the compliment. :)

Bethie - Yeah, it's weird how it's okay for parents to not call or cancel plans but if YOU do it that makes you a terrible person. I usually don't call my mother unless it's really important. She needs to get used to the idea that I may not be around 100% of the time. That was another reason for me to live on campus apart from it being too far to drive everyday. :/



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30 Mar 2011, 7:05 am

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Everyone feels sorry for the anorexic, and scorns the obese. Odd reaction, considering both conditions are the result of eating disorders.



BULL.


Anorexia IS an eating disorder.
Obesity is a height/weight ratio that's the result of a dozen factors.


Yeah. It could be the result of lifestyle, medication, genetics, etc. Mine's kind of a combination of the three. >.<