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I'm tired of you claiming that a physically fit woman has a bodyfat level of 40 and that all men are brainwashed by beauty standards imprinted in our brains by freemasons to piss of feminists and give money to the fashion industry. Look at old paintings of Mary Magadele or old statues of Aphrodite. Neither were obese, neither were masculine and neither had hairy bodies. Both looked fertile and both looked feminine.

...what??

No, all obese people need to do, is to consume less calories than they burn.


What about them? They test your logical comprehension; language skills, general knowledge and so on are more difficult to meassure.






















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Never said that.

Never said that- I'm not nearly so stupid as to make claims about "all" one sex or the other, let alone to claim to speak for my own, or to confuse an ideology with demanding evidence for claims made, and receiving none.

Never said that.

You're intellectually-dishonest, sir.

They're also nowhere near the modern cultural aesthetic.

See above.

Sure. That's the equation.
And when your physiology burns next to nothing, yet stores almost every calorie consumed?
When you can't afford to buy healthy food, or there is no place nearby to do so?
When you have no place to exercise without fear you'll be the victim of a violent crime?

Comfortable bubble you must live in.

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I didn't say that being overweight is a Problem for everyone. Merely that it is a problem for me, you seem to be projecting your own hurt feelings onto my aesthetic choices in order to blame me for making you feel bad. If some one wants to be overweight, let them, but I don't want to date them.

I don't believe anyone is intellectually inferior. I believe some people simply don't make the effort to unlock their potential. There is no such thing as Lack of Education in the modern United States, school is COMPULSORY. It is the fault of the student for not taking advantage of that. It is the fault of the students parents for not encouraging them to take advantage of that. I will agree however, that the application of funding for education is extremely unevenly distributed. But it does exist in every single community in the country in some form. As I said before, the public library will loan you books for free. If escaped slaves can teach themselves how to read and then go on to attend and found schools to teach other escaped slaves then clearly, nothing is impossible provided you have the will to apply yourself.

Beyond that, you are being a typical liberal. It's always some one the fault of some one else. It's never a lack of personal responsibility. I agree with you that more effort should be made to correct these flaws. But it's not going to happen because the people who control things won't let it happen. But the people who control things also think the people at the bottom are lazy and stupid and lack the desire to do anything about it. I take that as a challenge.

Then you are no better. Clearly if passing judgement on some one is wrong, then you shouldn't be doing it to me.



Your idea of morals and my idea of morals, I'm sure are not 100% in accordance.

Savannah, home of Paula Deen, the disgusting woman who after poisoning herself and encouraging millions of others to do the same with her Television shows.. then shills for a company which produces Diabetic supplies.

Ah, so you meant to qualify this statement:


but forgot to?

If my feelings were hurt every time I encountered a fatphobic, ignorantly judgmental person, I'd be pretty miserable.

Good! That's your CHOICE! Just don't call yourself a VICTIM because of said CHOICE.

That "potential" being...to not be a fattie?

Uhhhhhhh.....you do know there are millions of high school graduates who are functionally illiterate and don't know multiplication, right?
Living in the south of all places you should know that the state of public education is shameful.

Taking advantage of what? Shortages of teachers, structurally-compromised buildings, elimination of special education and arts programs, and the dumbing down of curriculum, left and right?

Are you at all aware of any of these problems?

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Who said anything about ideologies? Charles Darwin himself said that men prefered the prettier women because of natural selection.



I know. But I wrote it to underline how silly your straw man arguments where you ignore anything that disproves what you think and substitute it with debunked propaganda.



This is 23-25% bodyfat:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hN8vsTTYA-k/T ... venus.jpeg

You did, when you brought up feminism.

Yeah, cause that's what all fat people do, right? Fry things in BUTTER and put 'em between two slices of bread, rolled in sugar.

Your prejudice is showing.

If you burn next to nothing, then you're doing it wrong. Maybe you have an endomorphic body type; this does not mean that you're destined to be obese, it means that you have a slower metabolism than a mesomorph or an ectomorph. Many movie stars have an endomorphic body type.

Just how many wild animals do you see who are obese? This means that obesity is unnatural. There are plenty of places to exercise with no crime. Furthermore, healthy foods like chicken, tuna, oats and eggs are cheap.

Uh, Yeah, I survived them all.

I also survived WIC, FoodStamps, no public transit, no health, vision or dental insurance, and a school system which didn't believe I had a learning disability but instead thought I had a behavioral problem. But, lo and behold, I managed to take what they had to teach me and make the most of it. But then I had a parent who encouraged me to learn, even if she wasn't able to facilitate it monetarily so instead she did it by providing moral support.



No, not all. But I know plenty who do. I also know plenty of people who watch her show and salivate while doing so over the thought of the things she is making. I know people who have bought her branded products, pots and pans, seasonings, etc trying to emulate her cooking methods. You ignored the fact that she poisoned herself and then figured out how to profit from it.

Ah, so, after the DECADE I spent trying to lose weight the "right" way, and the two-three years following with fad diets and starvation,
what, exactly, was I missing?

Pseudoscience.

Again, what does this have to do with your average obese person, who DOESN'T live in the wild, who lives in an industrialized nation filled with hormones, chemicals, endocrine disruptors of all kinds, with limited access to healthy foods, limited places to exercise, and limited energy to do it after he or she is done working the 2-3 jobs needed to get by?

Not in many parts of America, there aren't, nope, sorry.

At my grocery, a small bag of salad costs more than a week's worth of mac and cheese.
Yeah, "my grocery". Much of America is food dessert where there are no groceries for many miles, only gas stations and fast food.

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Last time I checked their was no such thing as cheap food at any grocery store in America their all very pricey unless you a mvp card it brings the price of food down a little bit.

I am musclar and husky so I do not see what the problem is being born big I mean my body is meant to be big not small I was born big bone I have never been a small person.

Ok I'm going to indulge in a quick bit of amateur psychology here. Rabbittss, please forgive me if I'm barking up the wrong tree... Was one of your parents overweight?