Is the Red Pill Really So Bad?

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13 Dec 2018, 6:39 pm

hurtloam wrote:
Aaaand this is why women don't tend to participate in L&D

Meh
Women make similar threads about men.

I don’t see issu, it’s why I don’t offer much advice to said women, I’m not dateable and I’m not NT. my advice would be useless.
They want to know what dateable NT men want or like.



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13 Dec 2018, 8:12 pm

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Aaaand this is why women don't tend to participate in L&D

Meh
Women make similar threads about men.
Why should we sink to their level? We should take the high ground rather than saying we should do it because someone else did it.


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13 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm

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Aaaand this is why women don't tend to participate in L&D


Obviously, we weak women don't know what we want.

We need to be told what we want by big, strong menz!! !


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13 Dec 2018, 8:30 pm

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Aaaand this is why women don't tend to participate in L&D
Obviously, we weak women don't know what we want. We need to be told what we want by big, strong menz!!
Your sarcasm is noted!

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13 Dec 2018, 9:10 pm

sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Aaaand this is why women don't tend to participate in L&D

Meh
Women make similar threads about men.

I don’t see issu, it’s why I don’t offer much advice to said women, I’m not dateable and I’m not NT. my advice would be useless.
They want to know what dateable NT men want or like.


I disagree. But, I'll also turn it around and say that not all relationships are great--try an abusive one (or two). It made me far less desperate for the companionship I thought I wanted.

Also, what do you enjoy about calling yourself a loser? I mean that just a question for yourself, privately. I used to enjoy doing that to myself. Even though it was before I found this place, I can see that it was a way of punishing myself for not fitting into an NT world, and feeling I had to be this person I was supposed to be, instead of who I was. And working in retail like you--that can feel extra NT. You're fine as you are, man.



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14 Dec 2018, 1:14 am

hurtloam wrote:
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Average woman gets plenty of attention from guys in real life or online hence the saying a long line of male suitors to choose from. The average guy only boosts the ego of women online and gets 1% response rate online and average guys would get higher response rate from putting in more effort talking to women in real life.


Yes I know that's what "long line" implies. I wasn't taking the term literally.

Yes online is different to real life.

But in real life women can go years with no man showing them any interest or asking them out. I see it around me and I've lived it.



Because everyone is using tinder these days and plenty of guys’ self esteem is being squashed on these apps.

The only women who spend years without being asked out are those who choose to never use any dating apps btw, if they did they would be asked out in no time. Fact.


Yes, but meanwhile in the real world...

Look, I know that sounds narrow mindedly dismissive of online dating, but I've had a look at the websites and downloaded Tinder and it's just so empty.

I much prefer the getting to know someone gradually in person with no pressure. Even if it's only once every few years that someone seems to like me.

I can't go through interviewing a load of men I don't know. Its just unbearable to think about


I wholeheartedly agree. I don't want to have to go out like I'm job-seeking to find people for friendship or relationships, I want it to happen naturally. Bonding through experience is the natural way of doing things. I despise the idea of online dating, but the world seems to revolve around it these days. Even if I wasn't held back by low self esteem, I have no doubt I'd be just another invisible guy on Tinder.



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14 Dec 2018, 2:19 am

Btw everyone isnt using Tinder these days. I don't know anyone who has found their partner online. People do still meet in person.



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14 Dec 2018, 2:21 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Aaaand this is why women don't tend to participate in L&D

Meh
Women make similar threads about men.
Why should we sink to their level? We should take the high ground rather than saying we should do it because someone else did it.


That's really good comment. Never justify bad behaviour by pointing at someone else and saying, "but they're doing it"



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14 Dec 2018, 3:37 am

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Btw everyone isnt using Tinder these days. I don't know anyone who has found their partner online. People do still meet in person.



You’re right, saying everyone may be an exaggeration.

But it seems more like everyone is usually using social media to “build up” potential relationships (with people they know) which is has its confusing rules as well, and so much male-to-male competition on these medias (ie. women often complain of receiving tons of messages from male acquaintances on FB).



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14 Dec 2018, 3:44 am

hurtloam wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Aaaand this is why women don't tend to participate in L&D

Meh
Women make similar threads about men.
Why should we sink to their level? We should take the high ground rather than saying we should do it because someone else did it.


That's really good comment. Never justify bad behaviour by pointing at someone else and saying, "but they're doing it"


My point is either condem it all and ban everyone from wp or just leave everyone alone.
Let everyone vent about their crappy lives and crappy experiences and try not to take someone talking about your gender in their area as if they talking about you.

I don’t think there’s any advice one can give to men like me that will help. I’m beyond saving. Like dragons I think once my moms gone I’ll try to kill myself. Maybe helol will be better, I think earth is hell. Or maybe it’s
Purgatory I’m being punished while others are just waiting to go to heaven.



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14 Dec 2018, 3:49 am

HighLlama wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Aaaand this is why women don't tend to participate in L&D

Meh
Women make similar threads about men.

I don’t see issu, it’s why I don’t offer much advice to said women, I’m not dateable and I’m not NT. my advice would be useless.
They want to know what dateable NT men want or like.


I disagree. But, I'll also turn it around and say that not all relationships are great--try an abusive one (or two). It made me far less desperate for the companionship I thought I wanted.

Also, what do you enjoy about calling yourself a loser? I mean that just a question for yourself, privately. I used to enjoy doing that to myself. Even though it was before I found this place, I can see that it was a way of punishing myself for not fitting into an NT world, and feeling I had to be this person I was supposed to be, instead of who I was. And working in retail like you--that can feel extra NT. You're fine as you are, man.


I’m not even good enough to be abused
What’s that say.

I don’t enjoy anything it’s just a fact and reality. What do cancer people enjoy about talking about cancer nothing but it’s their reality. Can’t burry our heads in the sand.
Most everyone and pretty much all women call me a loser. I just accepted reality and stopped fighting it. We can’t fight reality. It always wins. Can’t change how the world works.
As the guy who gives me rides home said you’re 30 don’t yiu want to have a family if you don’t start a real job soon it’ll be too late in 5 years
It’s already too late
It was too late the second I was born.
Doctor should have let me die it’d saved the government lots of money.



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14 Dec 2018, 3:49 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Btw everyone isnt using Tinder these days. I don't know anyone who has found their partner online. People do still meet in person.



You’re right, saying everyone may be an exaggeration.

But it seems more like everyone is usually using social media to “build up” potential relationships (with people they know) which is has its confusing rules as well, and so much male-to-male competition on these medias (ie. women often complain of receiving tons of messages from male acquaintances on FB).


In the UK people aren't really using Facebook anymore. Especially not younger folk. Its the thing you're older aunts use. New people I meet, especially men, dont have Facebook accounts.



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14 Dec 2018, 3:54 am

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I’m not even good enough to be abused

Go to some crappy church youth group and say it again :P

Really, the places where I witnessed the most of women abusing men were church youth groups :twisted:


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14 Dec 2018, 3:55 am

hurtloam wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Btw everyone isnt using Tinder these days. I don't know anyone who has found their partner online. People do still meet in person.



You’re right, saying everyone may be an exaggeration.

But it seems more like everyone is usually using social media to “build up” potential relationships (with people they know) which is has its confusing rules as well, and so much male-to-male competition on these medias (ie. women often complain of receiving tons of messages from male acquaintances on FB).


In the UK people aren't really using Facebook anymore. Especially not younger folk. Its the thing you're older aunts use. New people I meet, especially men, dont have Facebook accounts.

In the USA everyone uses it, even baby boomers are getting on it from their 1980s pcs lol

All the young people are on their phone 24/7 they site right next to each other chatting on their phones rather then just talking to each other. Most single people in my area are on dating sites.
All the single women at my work are too. I’ve seen them all come up. They didn’t swim on me though no one does atleast not on purpose.
Americans are obsessed with social media it is in every single aspect of our lives. Go to fast food and you order it on your phone you don’t have to interact with the employees anymore. McDonald’s has self check out on the restaurants too.
Hardly anyone’s coming in to shop anymore it’s mostly done online now.
In person Social interaction is dying



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14 Dec 2018, 3:56 am

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I’m not even good enough to be abused

Go to some crappy church youth group and say it again :P

Really, the places where I witnessed the most of women abusing men were youth were church youth groups :twisted:

I’m not a youth so I’d have the cops called on me.
Point is even abusive women reject me. That’s pretty sad.

Like say a woman gets rejected by a towns drunk whol go out with anything that has a vagina between its legs. That’d hurt. Yeah he’s a horrible person but if he’ll date anyone but you what’s that say.

Abusvie women would like a guy like me I hear but I have nothing to offer even them



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14 Dec 2018, 3:58 am

sly279 wrote:
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sly279 wrote:
I’m not even good enough to be abused

Go to some crappy church youth group and say it again :P

Really, the places where I witnessed the most of women abusing men were youth were church youth groups :twisted:

I’m not a youth so I’d have the cops called on me.

Would they? We had no problem with a 40yo in our students' group.
Doesn't need to be youth, about your age would be even better.


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