Why men are increasingly preferring Video Games over dating

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I'm not saying i had asperger's and got rid of it. I'm saying I had many of the symptoms of asperger's, but overcame them.

Last edited by AlekNovy on 11 Apr 2011, 1:14 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Lolzors

I call it the "not schientimifitific" argument. The truth is, social science has yet to touch even 0.1% of the world. I have no idea where people get the idea that there must be research or a study on everything on planet earth. Even the little that is studied, is often biased, and not peer-reviewed. Depending on the university's bias, they will come up with studies that say the exact opposite thing.

Did you know there are no studies that even measure or discuss who initiates things in relationships? Like literally, if you landed on planet earth, and you started trying to learn about the world from reading academic literature - you would NEVER EVER guess that men do most of the approaching, asking out, first kiss, first touch initiation... etc.

And if science has never even measured how much men do the initiation, why would you expect any science that this is decreasing and that more and more men are choosing to do less of it? I don't see these trends being covered in academia until after the fact. Maybe in 2060 there will be science on the herbivore generation and why it happened...

I think this logic that we can't discuss things because there's no science about them, is well a cop-out to not look at subjects we like to stay in denial about or avoid.

That's basically what I meant. Sorry, I am really rubbish with how I say things sometimes.

Anyway, hope these girls can offer you something.

As for the article...it may not be the most accurate blog I've ever read but when I think to most guys I hang out with....about 60% of them (roughly) like talking about beer, hanging out with their male buddies and stuff....sure they still talk to girls and hug them and stuff but they seem to generally think that woman are too much time from what a few of them have said to me....even a lesbian once told me to not bother with woman as they are a hassle...and that was pretty surprising evidence,

except... you're wrong. try the google. it works. i am not even going to research it because it doens't interest me per se, but if you're going to assert that something hasn't been researched, i'd suggest you check first.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/gm4x61vv4g8hk346/
http://crossculturalrhetoric.wordpress. ... ing-sites/

(two random links)

The article isn't scientific but it has some logic.

Just consider it as someone's post.

Nice sarcastic try. I've been searching for a decade, and I was very precise on what I said was missing from scientific literature. I never claimed that any of the stuff you listed was missing, and in fact I was careful to be SPECIFIC in what I listed so as to exclude the things that I know exist.

I listed the following:
"the approaching, asking out, first kiss, first touch initiation"


-> You listed two links. One a study about ONLINE dating which I never mentioned in what I listed, because I know those exist
-> The other about initiating sex in an ALREADY established relation between people who have already kissed, been a couple etc

I very specifically used the term "First touch", "First kiss", because I am well aware of all the studies that talk about sexual initiation after people are ALREADY past everything else and the man has taken all the risk up to that point. Yes, women do initiate kissing, sex, hand-holding with their boyfriends. The question was however how did they become a couple and who did all the initiations leading up to them even being a couple in the first place.

There's a ton of those studies about who initiates how much after people are already a couple. I have for years however tried to find a study on what gender made the relationship even happen in the first place with no luck.

-> I would be overjoyed to see a study on how much women ask men out.
-> I would be overjoyed to see a study on how much of the initiations and risks leading to relationships broken down by gender.
-> I would be overjoyed to see a gender breakdown or any study about who approaches whom to start a relationship

If you find them, please send them to me.

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so... you have nothing to refute what i have stated. you have nothing worth sharing on this topic. noted.

and wow on the necro-post.

Top Ten Reasons a Video Game is Better than a Relationship

10. A video game always looks as good the morning as it did the night before.

9. A video game doesn't care if you play with another video game.

8. Almost anyone can score with a video game, male or female.

7. If you get tired of a video game, you can return it and get a different one, with no questions asked.

6. A video game doesn't mind entertaining your friends.

5. A video game always looks better unwrapped and with the lights on.

4. Pretending to be someone else is almost a requirement for enjoying a video game.

3. You can get satisfaction from a video game without having to feed it, clean it's laundry, or get it drunk first.

2. It only takes a few seconds to get a video game turned on.

1. You can choose the level of difficulty, AND mute the volume when needed.

You accused me failing to perform a basic google search when claiming that x doesn't exist.

But I never claimed that x doesn't exist. I claimed y doesn't exist.



-> The topic is my very own article that I wrote

-> Where I claim that men in western society are increasingly making less and less and less moves and initiating less and less (in the specific offline ways I listed)

-> I was accused of being non-scientific, at which time I pointed out that no science exists on the subject on those types of initiations

Again, I would love to be proven wrong. I am intensly curious on the subject, and would love someone to send me those studies.

I don't mind being wrong. I have been searching for those studies for 10 years unsuccesfuly. If someone can point me to these studies that study the things I said I've been unable to find I will be eternally grateful. And if it turns out there's 500 studies on this, and I've missed all of them? I won't be embarrassed, I'll be jumping for joy that they've finally been found.

Again, I'd be grateful if you can point me to these studies:

- Gender breakdown on who approaches whom first
- Gender breakdown by who asks whom out, who calls first, who initiates first hand-holding, first kiss etc...

Can't believe my girlfriend just said she agrees with this

I stopped reading about 4 or 5 pages in when I realized it was a necro post. So forgive me if I'm repeating anything. The linked blog post reads like a passive aggressive screed. It dovetails nicely with the recent spate of PUA claptrap pervading the forum lately. In it you see the same tactical language used by PUAs. And there are so many rhetorical fallacies used, I daresay I can't begin to list them all. Oh, and the pseudo economic theory applied to dating screams of the same fallacy used in the PUA community regarding pseudo biology.

But I'm sure the echo chamber surrounding the blogger's world has told him he's spot on in that quaint, self-reinforcing point of view.

Side note: I found it rather obvious, too, when the sockpuppet user named "Girl" joined the discussion and acquiesced to the blogger's point of view, essentially saying exactly what a dude pretending to be a female poster might say.

AlekNovy, the onus is on you to support your assertions. if you cannot, that should pretty much signal that your conclusions are flawed. if no research has been done, any real scholar would make note of that and point out places where research should be done, but would not draw sweeping conclusions based on opinion. you can find articles with a simple google search, and even more if you accessed a university library system. either do your research or accept that people won't take you seriously.

You assume that men can so easily 'find someone else' like many of you women seem to be able to do

We have a winner!

why not start a list about the similarities I'll get you started :

1. Both are prone to break down when you least expect it.*



*You don't have that problem with Nintendo or the Wii60 , hey don't suit the messenger despite it's poor build quality I have a preference to it over the wii60

I think that loud humming noise it makes is playing subliminal messages I really don't know why I have a preference to it as I was a massive Sony fan back in the day.



In regards to build quality I need to make allowances for the fact it's American, I don't think I've ever bought a well made manufactured /designed-product from that part of the world I have the image tattooed in my mind of Marge Simpson at the department store she reaches for the wooden spoon finds it has "made in the USA" on it makes a noise and discreetly puts it at the back of the display cabinet.







Personally I stick to countries that know how to manufacture stuff Switzerland, Germany,Sweden and Japan are a good bet and at a pinch France and Italy