Constant rejection from women is making me suicidal
You want some anger SadAspy?
Here we go.
I'm SICK of men like you putting all the responsibility for YOUR feelings and YOUR problems on women.
It's not women's job to fall in love with you, have sex with you, spend time with you. It's your job to do what you can to make yourself attractive and if a woman still doesn't want you then accept that and find a way to be ok with it.
But no. Women owe you sex, women owe you a relationship, women owe you this, women owe you that.
I'm SICK of men who think women owe them something just because. GROW the hell up and SHUT the hell up.

EDIT: If it was so easy to find a way and accept it, we wouldn't have raging guys like SadAspy running around preaching the "evils of women", however hideously misguided he is.
I know it's vastly easier said than done but he could do so many things that are more constructive than being a raging misogynist.
He could get help.
He could see his doctor, ask for psychological treatment.
He could find a therapist on his own and get help pinpointing and fixing whatever it is that women see and are turned off by.
But no. It's our fault. How dare we not want to be with him.
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You want some anger SadAspy?
Here we go.
I'm SICK of men like you putting all the responsibility for YOUR feelings and YOUR problems on women.
It's not women's job to fall in love with you, have sex with you, spend time with you. It's your job to do what you can to make yourself attractive and if a woman still doesn't want you then accept that and find a way to be ok with it.
But no. Women owe you sex, women owe you a relationship, women owe you this, women owe you that.
I'm SICK of men who think women owe them something just because. GROW the hell up and SHUT the hell up.

EDIT: If it was so easy to find a way and accept it, we wouldn't have raging guys like SadAspy running around preaching the "evils of women", however hideously misguided he is.
I know it's vastly easier said than done but he could do so many things that are more constructive than being a raging misogynist.
He could get help.
He could see his doctor, ask for psychological treatment.
He could find a therapist on his own and get help pinpointing and fixing whatever it is that women see and are turned off by.
But no. It's our fault. How dare we not want to be with him.
I wholeheartedly concur, there are more constructive things he could do to help himself. Far more. I just feel that accepting it and being lonely is not a constructive way. I still remember all those guys that stuck up for Sodini on the net not too long ago, that was a little disturbing. That alone is why they need to take action in sorting their lives out.
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You want some anger SadAspy?
Here we go.
I'm SICK of men like you putting all the responsibility for YOUR feelings and YOUR problems on women.
It's not women's job to fall in love with you, have sex with you, spend time with you. It's your job to do what you can to make yourself attractive and if a woman still doesn't want you then accept that and find a way to be ok with it.
But no. Women owe you sex, women owe you a relationship, women owe you this, women owe you that.
I'm SICK of men who think women owe them something just because. GROW the hell up and SHUT the hell up.

EDIT: If it was so easy to find a way and accept it, we wouldn't have raging guys like SadAspy running around preaching the "evils of women", however hideously misguided he is.
I know it's vastly easier said than done but he could do so many things that are more constructive than being a raging misogynist.
He could get help.
He could see his doctor, ask for psychological treatment.
He could find a therapist on his own and get help pinpointing and fixing whatever it is that women see and are turned off by.
And if all of that fails over the course of several decades despite several attitude adjustments, face lifts, changes in financial and socioeconomic status and personality tweaks, accept that women are inherently evil and go Jack-The-Ripper on any women that refuses him. They're evil after all.
Read: Find what women find attractive and pretend. Even if your ability to pretend sucks now, practice makes perfect.
You think I might be joshing you, but I am totally not and my experience has proven this. The whole "Be yourself" maxim only really works if "yourself" is fundamentally attractive to begin with; if not, then you must pretend to be someone attractive.
Explain how this is a woman's fault? If being himself isn't working, that's not my fault, or any girl's fault. If he cant make it happen, he needs to give up and focus on other things. Why on earth would any woman want an unattractive, self-loathing, spiteful little boy?
Read: Find what women find attractive and pretend. Even if your ability to pretend sucks now, practice makes perfect.
You think I might be joshing you, but I am totally not and my experience has proven this. The whole "Be yourself" maxim only really works if "yourself" is fundamentally attractive to begin with; if not, then you must pretend to be someone attractive.
Explain how this is a woman's fault? If being himself isn't working, that's not my fault, or any girl's fault. If he cant make it happen, he needs to give up and focus on other things. Why on earth would any woman want an unattractive, self-loathing, spiteful little boy?
Read: Find what women find attractive and pretend. Even if your ability to pretend sucks now, practice makes perfect.
You think I might be joshing you, but I am totally not and my experience has proven this. The whole "Be yourself" maxim only really works if "yourself" is fundamentally attractive to begin with; if not, then you must pretend to be someone attractive.
Explain how this is a woman's fault? If being himself isn't working, that's not my fault, or any girl's fault. If he cant make it happen, he needs to give up and focus on other things. Why on earth would any woman want an unattractive, self-loathing, spiteful little boy?
Again, easier said than done. Castration maybe??

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Read: Find what women find attractive and pretend. Even if your ability to pretend sucks now, practice makes perfect.
You think I might be joshing you, but I am totally not and my experience has proven this. The whole "Be yourself" maxim only really works if "yourself" is fundamentally attractive to begin with; if not, then you must pretend to be someone attractive.
Explain how this is a woman's fault? If being himself isn't working, that's not my fault, or any girl's fault. If he cant make it happen, he needs to give up and focus on other things. Why on earth would any woman want an unattractive, self-loathing, spiteful little boy?
I never said it was. If it's anything's fault, it's nature's fault for having designed individuals as they are and anybody has the right to loathe nature for having given them a poor card. But, if women happen to be a part of nature, then complaining about women whom resulted from nature, by extension, only makes sense. Sure, it might not improve things, but it sure feels good sharing your misery with others and perhaps offending one of those evil women with retaliatory misogynism.
Read: Find what women find attractive and pretend. Even if your ability to pretend sucks now, practice makes perfect.
You think I might be joshing you, but I am totally not and my experience has proven this. The whole "Be yourself" maxim only really works if "yourself" is fundamentally attractive to begin with; if not, then you must pretend to be someone attractive.
I used to think that, and well-intentioned friends would often give me that advice. "Be Yourself." Well, being myself wasn't working. This was before I was diagnosed with AS. So this bit of advice, to someone with AS, I don't think is very helpful...at least insofar as NTs intend the advice to be taken. We can be ourselves, and miss cues or be oblivious to advances made by others.
But that's a different understanding than your premise. If by 'attractive' you mean, attractive to someone, then your statement is fairly accurate and not as damning as you might think. But if by 'attractive' you mean George Clooney attractive, then your statement is by and large false. So in this sense, being yourself can work because someone will find that attractive.
However, if you don't bathe, if you radiate constant negativity, anger then yeah, you're decreasing your chances of finding that person who finds you attractive by a huge factor. Then being yourself is probably not going to work.
But then who are 'you' anyway. One of the things I had to work out in therapy with regard to my anger and bitterness was the person I had become. The person I had become wasn't 'me' per se. I had morphed into something less. So I found a way to find myself again, the person I had been when I most liked myself -- which at that time was around 18ish. So now, being myself makes much more sense.
Also...we change as humans -- many of us do anyway. When I went to University, it was to improve myself. Did I lament going to University and that the world didn't bow down to my lower intellectual standards if I refused? No. But we think that improving our social skills is somehow 'selling out' or 'pretending to be someone else'. It's not. Improving yourself is about highlighting the best you have to offer, and learning to deal with your flaws.
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Heh.
I like it!
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You want some anger SadAspy?
Here we go.
I'm SICK of men like you putting all the responsibility for YOUR feelings and YOUR problems on women.
It's not women's job to fall in love with you, have sex with you, spend time with you. It's your job to do what you can to make yourself attractive and if a woman still doesn't want you then accept that and find a way to be ok with it.
But no. Women owe you sex, women owe you a relationship, women owe you this, women owe you that.
I'm SICK of men who think women owe them something just because. GROW the hell up and SHUT the hell up.
How many times I do have to say this?
I accept that I'm unattractive and women don't want me and will never want me. I keep posting because the female posters (and the white knights) keep saying s**t that's blatantly false, and it pisses me off.
Don't put words in my mouth. I don't expect women to like me....I'm a pathetic loser who doesn't deserve anyone.
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I accept that I'm unattractive and women don't want me and will never want me. I keep posting because the female posters (and the white knights) keep saying sh** that's blatantly false, and it pisses me off.
Has it ever occurred to you that you could be wrong?
Just askin'.
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You want some anger SadAspy?
Here we go.
I'm SICK of men like you putting all the responsibility for YOUR feelings and YOUR problems on women.
It's not women's job to fall in love with you, have sex with you, spend time with you. It's your job to do what you can to make yourself attractive and if a woman still doesn't want you then accept that and find a way to be ok with it.
But no. Women owe you sex, women owe you a relationship, women owe you this, women owe you that.
I'm SICK of men who think women owe them something just because. GROW the hell up and SHUT the hell up.
How many times I do have to say this?
I accept that I'm unattractive and women don't want me and will never want me. I keep posting because the female posters (and the white knights) keep saying sh** that's blatantly false, and it pisses me off.
Don't put words in my mouth. I don't expect women to like me....I'm a pathetic loser who doesn't deserve anyone.
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You want some anger SadAspy?
Here we go.
I'm SICK of men like you putting all the responsibility for YOUR feelings and YOUR problems on women.
It's not women's job to fall in love with you, have sex with you, spend time with you. It's your job to do what you can to make yourself attractive and if a woman still doesn't want you then accept that and find a way to be ok with it.
But no. Women owe you sex, women owe you a relationship, women owe you this, women owe you that.
I'm SICK of men who think women owe them something just because. GROW the hell up and SHUT the hell up.
How many times I do have to say this?
I accept that I'm unattractive and women don't want me and will never want me. I keep posting because the female posters (and the white knights) keep saying sh** that's blatantly false, and it pisses me off.
Don't put words in my mouth. I don't expect women to like me....I'm a pathetic loser who doesn't deserve anyone.
Not all women judge a man on looks alone that would just be shallow women like that can reject me all they want they are dong me a favor

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How many times I do have to say this?
I accept that I'm unattractive and women don't want me and will never want me. I keep posting because the female posters (and the white knights) keep saying sh** that's blatantly false, and it pisses me off.
I cant speak for the females but I can assure you that most white knights would give up(they would be pointless here) if some members like you stopped the posts against females that claim to have universal truths(btw there´s no lie bigger than all x think this way which is what your posts are about. If you were a mind reader I might give you some credit but that isnt the case).
So you can have my word that I´ll stop arguing with you about this as soon as you drop this issue,until then Im going to keep trying to talk some sense into you(and hopefully at some point you´ll have a breakthrough/give up arguing.)
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