Feeling ugly, flat chested and that I'm not good enough

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06 Feb 2013, 10:29 am

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@Geekonychus It helps me try to figure things out and vent. As I said, my mother would get angry if I wanted therapy so this is how I vent and get feedback and help.

I really think you should consider talking to a professional despite your mom. You've recieved plenty of supportive feedback from the people on here and from your boyfriend but I still see some relatively extreme body dysmorphic statements. Sounds to me like you're a bit obsessed and until you find ways to remedy the issue (through changing your perception of yourself, not through surgery) it's going to continue to nag at you.

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If I saw a 12 pages discussion about my cock I would totally be flattered.

Same Here! :lol:



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06 Feb 2013, 10:38 am

The problem is I'm dependent on my mother for transportation and everything though, so she would know. :/


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06 Feb 2013, 4:39 pm

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Men will sexualize healthy breasts (like the ones in the ads) no matter what.

Correction, boys in puberty and perverted men may, but not all men. Self respecting, mature and secure men will see it as everyone else, another body part.


Correction: Most men, including self-respecting mature and secure men, are sexually enticed by breasts. It's the culture that these men are a part of. But to say that they don't respect themselves because they love breasts is nonsense talk.

That said, a lot of men love breasts of various sizes, from small to large.


Not in a professional context, a doctor's dick wouldn't get erected while he's checking a breast because he really sees it as another body part of a patient. The same doctor would get horny the same night by seeing his lover flashing her boobs on him or some breasts bouncing in a strip club.

Umm... I think this was a bit explicit.


I agree it's circumstantial. My point still stands. :P



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06 Feb 2013, 4:41 pm

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The problem is I'm dependent on my mother for transportation and everything though, so she would know. :/


Go back and read my post on the previous page. A good therapist is going to try to get you to the point where you internalize what I have written. I'm not a therapist so I'm not knowledgeable enough to help you get there, but I can promise that once you realize that it will bring you a lot of peace and happiness, and your boyfriend will also be happy that you're able to feel how much he loves you.

And if he doesn't really feel that way about you, then get a boyfriend who does.


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06 Feb 2013, 5:09 pm

you should think long term effects for your own personal health if you are that insecure about the size of your breasts. I dated a girl who was apparently a size H. She was starting to have some back problems and her breasts were one of the causes as to why. I myself am not a boobs man and I am more of an assman myself. It's my understanding that some women will look to have breast reduction when they have kids.
I don't know if this helps. But maybe it will.



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06 Feb 2013, 8:22 pm

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And if he doesn't really feel that way about you, then get a boyfriend who does.


She'll freak out on that boyfriend too... then the next one... and the next. Hubby is NOT the problem - her paranoid fear of what "all-men-everywhere" think of small breasts is downright crippling her.

THAT is the problem. So quit being all emo and address the real issue which resides between your ears, not your chest.



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06 Feb 2013, 8:58 pm

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THAT is the problem. So quit being all emo and address the real issue which resides between your ears, not your chest.


The point I was trying to make is that we first need to be able to recognize when people do genuinely care for us, and then to seek out the those people. If she doesn't know how to recognize whether he genuinely cares for her, she cannot be confident in her relationship with him regardless of whether he does or doesn't.


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06 Feb 2013, 11:37 pm

I know now he does genuinely care for me. <3 I've always known he does but sometimes he says silly s**t. :p I realist now the demon is inside me and my perceptions of guys. Maybe most guys are like that but mine certainly isn't. :)


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07 Feb 2013, 1:00 am

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I know now he does genuinely care for me. <3 I've always known he does but sometimes he says silly sh**. :p I realist now the demon is inside me and my perceptions of guys. Maybe most guys are like that but mine certainly isn't. :)


..and yet, you are the one that will ultimately drive him away from your side.


The issue is not your breasts. Its you. As a person. This obsessive insecurity is already being projected strongly outward.

Do a thought experiment. A backpack full of cash and an address to the best boob-job doctor in town falls from the sky and hits you in the head. You take this gift and have the procedure done. You now have nice medium sized breasts. Not too large not too small. Just right.

You're with him in the couch. Watching TV. Some blimp-sized-boobs woman on TV has a wardrobe malfunction and flashes the screen.

Would you then, at that point, once again think he is comparing you to her and finding you lacking?


Your obsessive insecurity is no different than anorexics... no matter what, due to previous life trauma/neuroses... they will always see themselves as too fat.

You really need to talk with your mother about this problem and see if you can visit a therapist. Your local university, if you're enrolled, may have free mental health services (psychologists). Its confidential so your parents would not need to get involved and if you're in univ. then you're already there for classes anyway. Look up this option, it can only but help you.

Get that help soon before you drive this guy away and end up blaming it on your breasts and making things worse for yourself. You deserve better :)



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07 Feb 2013, 1:11 am

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I got upset again earlier today because I saw a new line of breast cancer ads of topless women in body paint. I got upset because I knew he'd see one and think of how much better theirs were. I talked to my boyfriend about it and he got angry and claimed I stereotype him, then claimed my breasts are perfect to him and asked why I'm so worried about it. It's because I don't like them. Not because of society, because I think big breasts are good and small ones, on me are bad. I've seen girls my build with Ds and they don't look too big or saggy; they get perkier the lower the band size too. I'm just really upset about this all over again. I also read there is a technique to get them fixed called fat transfer - the most natural looking and feeling of any method. I could probably just use a little from my thighs and bottom, I'm so small in stature. It wouldn't need that much.

Try thinking about it like this: Your natural looks are a filter for prospective mates.
Bigger boobs will get you more attention, but maybe from the wrong guys.
Do you prefer slim to skinny guys who are a bit intellectual, or are you more stimulated by guys who work out in the gym and follow sport?
It is my belief, ( and I am open to being called wrong on this ), that Marylin Monroe curves tend to most attractive to guys who are most focused on the physical.
About your butt. If you believe it is disproportionate, then there are five words:
Healthy diet & regular exercise.



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07 Feb 2013, 2:14 am

EmoGlambertAspie wrote:
I know now he does genuinely care for me. <3 I've always known he does but sometimes he says silly sh**. :p I realist now the demon is inside me and my perceptions of guys. Maybe most guys are like that but mine certainly isn't. :)


Awww ...


Young people.



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07 Feb 2013, 2:42 am

100$ bet she'll go back to demonizing him in no time.



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07 Feb 2013, 2:48 am

ripped wrote:
EmoGlambertAspie wrote:
I got upset again earlier today because I saw a new line of breast cancer ads of topless women in body paint. I got upset because I knew he'd see one and think of how much better theirs were. I talked to my boyfriend about it and he got angry and claimed I stereotype him, then claimed my breasts are perfect to him and asked why I'm so worried about it. It's because I don't like them. Not because of society, because I think big breasts are good and small ones, on me are bad. I've seen girls my build with Ds and they don't look too big or saggy; they get perkier the lower the band size too. I'm just really upset about this all over again. I also read there is a technique to get them fixed called fat transfer - the most natural looking and feeling of any method. I could probably just use a little from my thighs and bottom, I'm so small in stature. It wouldn't need that much.

Try thinking about it like this: Your natural looks are a filter for prospective mates.
Bigger boobs will get you more attention, but maybe from the wrong guys.
Do you prefer slim to skinny guys who are a bit intellectual, or are you more stimulated by guys who work out in the gym and follow sport?
It is my belief, ( and I am open to being called wrong on this ), that Marylin Monroe curves tend to most attractive to guys who are most focused on the physical.
About your butt. If you believe it is disproportionate, then there are five words:
Healthy diet & regular exercise.


I often fear this is the case. The intellectual types I get attracted to almost never like me back and the guys are like me are mostly completely the wrong type for me. I have the same measurements as Marylin Monroe except I am taller and my waist is 2.5 inches wider. Narrow hourglass shaped. Sometimes in the past I wondered whether intellectual guys were disinterested in me because of my blonde hair and vagueness, I got teased and called dumb blonde mostly in a good-natured way but I don't think superficially/appearance wise I've ever come across as an intellectual. Which is ironic because I was a straight A student at school and I am a dean's scholar at uni. For a decade I've daydreamed on and off of dying my hair black or black with blue streaks, or something along those lines, but I get put off as a friend who has the same natural honey blonde hair colour as me tried it and the effect was ghastly (sort of a dirty grey colour). Plus if I did dye pale hair like mine black there would be a lot of time and maintenance costs and I know I wouldn't keep it up as I'm the sort of person who wears no makeup and spends five minutes a day on appearance (brushing hair with five or six brushes up into a 20 second pony tail and putting sunscreen on if it's hot).

I conclude that obsessing too much about appearance is a waste of time as we are who we are and if somebody was truly attracted to you mentally then things like hair colour and boob size wouldn't make that much of a difference.


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07 Feb 2013, 8:24 am

Sunshower, I've never heard of intellectual guys disliking a good-looking smart woman :scratch: I thought that it's like a dream come true for them. Also, I thought that Marilyn Monroe herself was pretty smart (just chose acting as an occupation and didn't have much formal education. She probably had mental health issues too...)

Sorry kinda derailed there

Anyways, you're right, any guy who likes you for who you really are will find you really attractive no matter what your appearance is


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07 Feb 2013, 8:29 am

OP, I'm sure they look just fine and you have nothing to worry about 8) a lot of us guys like boobs in all shapes and sizes so don't feel threatened by girls with bigger boobs, or insecure about your own. Guys that like bigger boobs can also like more delicate sized ones too. It's not always a case of liking one or the other.



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07 Feb 2013, 11:25 am

MCalavera wrote:
100$ bet she'll go back to demonizing him in no time.
I second this!


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