Afraid of being alone forever?
See, the thing is, your perception of their worth is only that. Your perception of human worth only has weight to you. And wanting the person you want to date to diminish their perception of what they're worth is pretty much acting against their best interests since self worth is tied to satisfaction with the life they're living. You're basically admitting to a low impression of THEIR worth, but at the same time you want them to commit themselves to you. You're asking for investments on a losing venture.
I'm not going to imply you should become a bastion of self esteem, but what's the point of committing to someone who sees himself and others in terms of some arbitrary idea of worth? What's there to gain , objectively speaking? If it is a source of sex, there's plenty of better outlets than men actually.
More blanket statements. I get the impression that it's comforting to reduce a source of frustration to a few assumptions and not bother with complex things like their individual nuances, identities or circumstances out of plain spite. It gives you the impression that you have all variables figured out to the point of predictability, when you only happen to control a few related to yourself.
The thing is, it also betrays a sheltered, narrow, bratty and immature mentality. No one likes to be constantly matched up to whatever assumptions (either too narrow or blatantly wrong in this case btw) you seem to have made regarding people they've never met who happen to have similar body parts to their own. It's akin to having someone use astrology as a reference in their interactions with you.
Humans are by nature gregarious, so the trend is for them to actually want to avoid being alone at any cost, regardless of their gender. You could even argue women suffer more from loneliness given their inherent emotional capacity. Women are just as interested in sex and intimacy as men, but the physical component tends to take second place to the mental and emotional side of it. If that aspect is lacking, sex is predominantly a pointless chore.
Maybe in terms of gaining status amongst your female circle of friends (which is what you and most women are truly interested in) it's an handicap, but in terms of getting into a relationship with men? No, it really isn't.
Yes it is. Perhaps it is to difficult for you understand but yes it is. You don't get to determine what me and other female aspies experience with NT men in our lives, the social difficulties we experience. Men aren't dumb. Get over yourself and your one-sided way of thinking. It's like a white person telling a black person that they really don't face as much discrimination as they do. Pawease.
Cafeaulait, I have been years here on the forum, and I can assure you, most female members, even those who whined a lot of being lonely, did find someone - especially the young ones 18-25s.
You yourself got a two boyfriends, including the current one, while your equivalent complaining males like Sly and Brian and many others are still single during the same period of life.
Let me put it in perspective: You: 1, them:0, same period. got it?
Don't know how many times I already gold you that, are you deaf? Is hard for you tot grasp that having sex with a guy a couple times =/= having a boyfriend?
There are so many examples, but I won't name more than that.
If only I can find this long article written a female aspie arranging aspie meetups, It was ages ago when I first joined WP, the whole article was about how she noticed all the males in the meetups were single while the females were not.
That's all good news for the OP btw.
The Face of Boo, why do you have so much difficulty comprehending what I write everytime? This bittered faulty attitude is your nummer one problemen in dating. It's the way you andere Gauldoth think about women.
Do you not see the flaws in your own perception and reasoning? Nearly every phrase has a faulty premise, interpretation or premise in it. You've become a walking self-fulfulling prophecy, trying to convince other males tot see it your way.
Again: I have way different experiences then you. Now what?
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Do you have a bf now, yes or no?
Men would be spitting on me for not being the kind of person they'd want to bed, for being too outspoken for my own good and for making them feel stupid (intentionally or not e_e). Un-womanly/inferior breed/ disgusting, etc. Men themselves would compare me with other females and berate me for not following their example . And if it was seen that I fancied someone (my body language was obvious to everyone but me despite my best attempts to cover it) I would be publicly humiliated in front of them until I stopped looking at that person(know your place).
You could theorize that maybe I avoid women just to avoid anything to do with the role I was constantly being attacked over. I get along with tomboys just fine and conversely the more stereotypical, the more repellent women are to me. True tomboys that lack the annoying sizing up mentality women often have towards each other are rare to come by though.
I don't think dating it's easier or harder for aspies of either gender. Being an aspie gives you your own crappy set of challenges depending on (or regardless of, depending on how you see it) your plumbing. Ultimately you are high maintenance in the most repellent ways , and no one wants high maintenance. No one ever visualizes the Aspie kind of high maintenance as their ideal partner, and more often than not it is endured for the sake of other traits/ lack of better options.
I get the impression people want to believe there's something about women that makes them more intolerant of aspie traits, being aspie makes it nasty for both genders to date, it's possible that men are much more vocal about it though.
The dating problems that plague both NT and Aspie women are these: you have ridiculously high standards, mostly due to your gross overestimating of yourselves and your own personal value, and complete, and often times willful, ignorance of the differences between the sexes. You just think that hairier versions of yourselves, and then became upset when that doesn't turn out to the case.
Nevermind my dating problems (I gave up on that crap) , I'm not sure you're fully aware of the message you're sending here.
By saying this, aren't you in a way implying that a woman would need lower standards to consider you?
Aren't you implying that a woman who would consider you needs to have a less-than-average perception of her own value?
Would you be happy with being a "settling for the next best thing" target?
Romance is nice, but people forget it's optional rather than compulsory. Being alone is always, always better than being in poor company.
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Maybe in terms of gaining status amongst your female circle of friends (which is what you and most women are truly interested in) it's an handicap, but in terms of getting into a relationship with men? No, it really isn't.
Yes it is. Perhaps it is to difficult for you understand but yes it is. You don't get to determine what me and other female aspies experience with NT men in our lives, the social difficulties we experience. Men aren't dumb. Get over yourself and your one-sided way of thinking. It's like a white person telling a black person that they really don't face as much discrimination as they do. Pawease.
Cafeaulait, I have been years here on the forum, and I can assure you, most female members, even those who whined a lot of being lonely, did find someone - especially the young ones 18-25s.
You yourself got a two boyfriends, including the current one, while your equivalent complaining males like Sly and Brian and many others are still single during the same period of life.
Let me put it in perspective: You: 1, them:0, same period. got it?
Don't know how many times I already gold you that, are you deaf? Is hard for you tot grasp that having sex with a guy a couple times =/= having a boyfriend?
There are so many examples, but I won't name more than that.
If only I can find this long article written a female aspie arranging aspie meetups, It was ages ago when I first joined WP, the whole article was about how she noticed all the males in the meetups were single while the females were not.
That's all good news for the OP btw.
The Face of Boo, why do you have so much difficulty comprehending what I write everytime? This bittered faulty attitude is your nummer one problemen in dating. It's the way you andere Gauldoth think about women.
Do you not see the flaws in your own perception and reasoning? Nearly every phrase has a faulty premise, interpretation or premise in it. You've become a walking self-fulfulling prophecy, trying to convince other males tot see it your way.
Again: I have way different experiences then you. Now what?
You talk no sense.
I have plenty of female friends.
I am not bitter toward women, but I am stating something very obvious here.
This is is my opinion and my observation on this gender matter, even some female aspies agreed before, it's not like I walk in real life and grudge at women's faces for it.
Maybe in terms of gaining status amongst your female circle of friends (which is what you and most women are truly interested in) it's an handicap, but in terms of getting into a relationship with men? No, it really isn't.
Yes it is. Perhaps it is to difficult for you understand but yes it is. You don't get to determine what me and other female aspies experience with NT men in our lives, the social difficulties we experience. Men aren't dumb. Get over yourself and your one-sided way of thinking. It's like a white person telling a black person that they really don't face as much discrimination as they do. Pawease.
Actually, you're right, I have no idea how Aspergers affects women in dating because I've never seen any way in which it does.
And I have, now what?
Oh, I've seen plenty of women like you who THINK that their dating woes are because of their Aspergers, but when/if they actually start getting into details, you see that it has nothing to do with it.
Oh, I have seen plenty of men like you who THINK that their dating woes are because of their Asperges, nut when/if you start getting into details, you see that it had nothing tot do with it.
The dating problems that plague both NT and Aspie women are these: you have ridiculously high standards, mostly due to your gross overestimating of yourselves and your own personal value, and complete, and often times willful, ignorance of the differences between the sexes. You just think that hairier versions of yourselves, and then became upset when that doesn't turn out to the case.
A load of belittling crap. Stop acting like women are these infantile, immature irrational weird creatures. It's the reason you will never find a woman to love you for who you are. Any sane woman would be turned off by reading this. Also hilarious how you speak about ignoring differences between the sexes. It's the thing you are best at yourself.
Look, just because you can't get Chad McAlphamale to settle down with you doesn't mean you're an Aspie. It just means your value as a romantic partner wasn't as high as you thought.
You're crazy. Blabla romantic value blabla. Another weird assumption. This has nothing to do with me, nor most aspie women.
My advice: date within your own level. I know you're not gonna do it, because women seem to preffer to die alone rather than to settle with a guy who is as plain and average as they are, but there you go.
Again, you sound like you are crazy. My advice to you: get out of your self fulfilling prophecy, bittered attitude towards women and grow up.
Maybe in terms of gaining status amongst your female circle of friends (which is what you and most women are truly interested in) it's an handicap, but in terms of getting into a relationship with men? No, it really isn't.
Yes it is. Perhaps it is to difficult for you understand but yes it is. You don't get to determine what me and other female aspies experience with NT men in our lives, the social difficulties we experience. Men aren't dumb. Get over yourself and your one-sided way of thinking. It's like a white person telling a black person that they really don't face as much discrimination as they do. Pawease.
Cafeaulait, I have been years here on the forum, and I can assure you, most female members, even those who whined a lot of being lonely, did find someone - especially the young ones 18-25s.
You yourself got a two boyfriends, including the current one, while your equivalent complaining males like Sly and Brian and many others are still single during the same period of life.
Let me put it in perspective: You: 1, them:0, same period. got it?
Don't know how many times I already gold you that, are you deaf? Is hard for you tot grasp that having sex with a guy a couple times =/= having a boyfriend?
There are so many examples, but I won't name more than that.
If only I can find this long article written a female aspie arranging aspie meetups, It was ages ago when I first joined WP, the whole article was about how she noticed all the males in the meetups were single while the females were not.
That's all good news for the OP btw.
The Face of Boo, why do you have so much difficulty comprehending what I write everytime? This bittered faulty attitude is your nummer one problemen in dating. It's the way you andere Gauldoth think about women.
Do you not see the flaws in your own perception and reasoning? Nearly every phrase has a faulty premise, interpretation or premise in it. You've become a walking self-fulfulling prophecy, trying to convince other males tot see it your way.
Again: I have way different experiences then you. Now what?
You talk no sense.
I have plenty of female friends.
I am not bitter toward women, but I am stating something very obvious here.
This is is my opinion and my observation on this gender matter, even some female aspies agreed before, it's not like I walk in real life and grudge at women's faces for it.
You do come across as 'bitter' to many women on this board, even though you are not explicitly or consciously stating it (just as many people say 'i am not racist', but they are). My opinion is different from yours, plenty of male aspies agree with me. Stop trying to convince me of my own experience because it is nog in line with yours. It's dumb.
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Maybe in terms of gaining status amongst your female circle of friends (which is what you and most women are truly interested in) it's an handicap, but in terms of getting into a relationship with men? No, it really isn't.
What female circle of friends? I get along primarily with men, in a One of The Boys, Cannot See as a Woman basis.
You seem to have a set of assumptions regarding aspie women, and women in general, that you'd be much better off without.
I get along better with women irl, but better with aspies as a whole, both on the internet and irl. The only aspies I knew were girls, and I got along with them pretty well.
Not all aspie women get along with men well or women. Most of the time I don't get along with anyone! I tend to repel people somehow.
Maybe then the women you know irl can give you some advice about it? They know you more than us.
Ever tried to ask them?
No matter how much info you give us here, it would still be so limited.
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Maybe in terms of gaining status amongst your female circle of friends (which is what you and most women are truly interested in) it's an handicap, but in terms of getting into a relationship with men? No, it really isn't.
Yes it is. Perhaps it is to difficult for you understand but yes it is. You don't get to determine what me and other female aspies experience with NT men in our lives, the social difficulties we experience. Men aren't dumb. Get over yourself and your one-sided way of thinking. It's like a white person telling a black person that they really don't face as much discrimination as they do. Pawease.
Cafeaulait, I have been years here on the forum, and I can assure you, most female members, even those who whined a lot of being lonely, did find someone - especially the young ones 18-25s.
You yourself got a two boyfriends, including the current one, while your equivalent complaining males like Sly and Brian and many others are still single during the same period of life.
Let me put it in perspective: You: 1, them:0, same period. got it?
Don't know how many times I already gold you that, are you deaf? Is hard for you tot grasp that having sex with a guy a couple times =/= having a boyfriend?
There are so many examples, but I won't name more than that.
If only I can find this long article written a female aspie arranging aspie meetups, It was ages ago when I first joined WP, the whole article was about how she noticed all the males in the meetups were single while the females were not.
That's all good news for the OP btw.
The Face of Boo, why do you have so much difficulty comprehending what I write everytime? This bittered faulty attitude is your nummer one problemen in dating. It's the way you andere Gauldoth think about women.
Do you not see the flaws in your own perception and reasoning? Nearly every phrase has a faulty premise, interpretation or premise in it. You've become a walking self-fulfulling prophecy, trying to convince other males tot see it your way.
Again: I have way different experiences then you. Now what?
You talk no sense.
I have plenty of female friends.
I am not bitter toward women, but I am stating something very obvious here.
This is is my opinion and my observation on this gender matter, even some female aspies agreed before, it's not like I walk in real life and grudge at women's faces for it.
You do come across as 'bitter' to many women on this board, even though you are not explicitly or consciously stating it (just as many people say 'i am not racist', but they are). My opinion is different from yours, plenty of male aspies agree with me. Stop trying to convince me of my own experience because it is nog in line with yours. It's dumb.
Whatever, it's not like I care about anyone's opinion here?
Look, you are all just usernames to me, I really really don't care how I come across to you or to others here.
Anyway I am bored from this topic.
odd thing
people tend to say "must be attractive" without giving details as to what they think that is. seems odd. how is one to know what they find attractive. I assume they must mean societies standard of attraction which is why they give no details.
I don't really have any such details so I don't ever list or say has to be attractive. I find most women attractive so perhaps its hard to list details for me given I find most attractive yet everyone is quite different from each other. billions of them. how would one begin to even describe that.
however societies view on what is attractive is quite clear. I do think they'll have a hard time finding a attractive person. probably why they are still on dating sites year after year after year.
just rambling I guess but seems better then gender who has it worse wars. I'm on there cause my horrible built in inability to ever give up on stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard all that rhetoric before... we're not bitter because we're failures, we're failures because we're bitter, and we're bitter because... reasons.
Save it, will you? We didn't start out bitter and angry, it was only after years of failure and rejection that we became that way. And bitternesss and anger are the NATURAL reaction to that.
You're just like those women who headed the Aspie meet-ups I mentioned earlier; you have no real advice or wisdom to impart to us, you just like to hear yourself talk. Well, do us a favor, and go talk to the walls then, will you? At least you'll save us the trouble of having to listen to you.
Forget about the chicks for a while--take a break. Get into your interests.
Or obtain a college/university degree if you don't have one already.
Just forget the girls for a while. It might do you good.
Become a career person, you mean? Thanks, but no thanks. That lifestyle would never satisfy me.
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