More Thought on Incels.

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That's true, but I was talking about my friends husband who looks about as goodlooking as Jonah Hill, and he is not rich though, yet was still able to get married. If a guy can look like that and still get women, than how is it that Elliot Rodgers was too ugly for it?

your friend's husband likely has above average intelligence, more important than that he likely has above-average SOCIAL intelligence and high-level TOM in his favor. he may also be very alpha-masculine [good protector and father] in a way that women can [via phermones] can readily sense.

I don't want to judge his looks as I'm not a straight female but the consensus is that he's good looking.

Yes he wasn't an alpha male, but we don't know why?

Yes his race is relevant as data suggest Asian males are the last choice for most white girls to date so he is already behind there. I'll give you a really simple example. Go to any all male K-pop group youtube video and scroll down and have a look at the English comments. These are the best looking Asian guys in the world (frankly I agree these men are literally beautiful and I'm straight). Yet the 95% of the girls commenting in English about them are Asian or non-white. Next if you look at the comments the Asian/non-white girls commenting are throwing in comments on how beautiful they look and how they dream about them etc...there will only be a handful of white girls commenting in these pages, I know there are white girls who follow k-pop (just like they follow hip-hop) but what's interesting is that they only comment on the music and not about the boys. If they do comment on the singers it will be a polite "cute hair" or "wow I love his jacket".

Guess what! its the same if you go to heart throb black or Asian actor's or singers. Michael B Jordan and Idris Elba were awarded sexisest man alive in the last few years. Again go to their social media pages and its only black girls commenting about them.

Now go to some crap popular white male youtuber like Logan Paul who hasn't done anything of significance. Logan Paul's fan base is predominately white female teens. Same with literally any white male actor/singer/celebrity Why?

This is a reflection of sexual preference. The proof of the pudding is in Tinder, people tend to swipe their own race but guess who are the pickiest of all!

referring to people who only like [IOW can find other races attractive] their own race, i think such people simply are not intelligent.

And there you have it....the majority

Yes my friends husband is an alpha male type I suppose from what I can tell, but if incel men act alpha-malish, will that help their game. I assume if they constantly complain about not getting women, that is not going to send an alpha male impression to women?

Also, as for Rodgers having a more Asian look, which white women do not like, couldn't he just for go for non-white women then, as I assume there is plenty of that selection in the US?

Perhaps his school/sorority was predominantly white.

there is a whole industry devoted to teaching non-alphas to act like alphas, with variable results. a few get lucky but if a person has to act alpha against their normal type, it is still just an act, and women [and men] can sense this. only the real thing need apply.

Well if he is that desperate to get sex, what's he doing only limiting himself to a sorority/school he goes too. He never thought once to seek elsewhere?

he was seeking not merely sex but the whole "normal person girl-friend experience" like what he saw everybody else, even the plainest low-social-rank types, getting without any obvious drama at all. that is likely what he was thinking. he felt he was being cheated out of what he saw everybody else getting, that is behind the anger he felt.

Oh okay. But I thought he was reasonably okay looking enough that he could find what he wanted. Not in a sorority house maybe, but elsewhere, if you go into it acting a certain way, with a certain attitude maybe.

his problem was that he was mind-blind. he could not comprehend the normal things he was supposed to do and be to get what he wanted. he had no theory-of-mind, among other things. his parents failed him IMHO. they gave him the material things but not the really important psychological/emotional things.

Oh okay. But could that be the problem with a lot of incels, and it's not looks though?

it is far from just looks. it is the total package. why would a whiny dweeb like bill gates have to peel off women, if it were just looks?

That's why I said, the pickiest group of all are....

Well it's just I know guys who are not goodlooking and not rich and they still got women so I thought it was possible.