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these posts were insulting, though obviously not bad enough to warrant an official warning or you would have a PM in your inbox:







that advice you gave to mv about catching flies with honey would do you well.

and MR20, here was yours, though obviously also not bad enough for an official warning:


and MR20, mv gave you a great deal of advice in this thread, and it is not the first time she has tried to support you. people do not deserve your contempt just because they aren't saying the things you want to hear (i.e. that you are ugly and worthless and should commit suicide). if you are going to post your complaints on the forum, people are going to give you their advice and opinions and i suggest that you learn to deal with that even if you do not agree.

hallelujah, yes.



(and thanks for the compliment you sneaked in, aussiebloke. i am/was a teacher, yes).

Fair enough

Thanks, B3astM4n, I appreciate it!

i missed this


hey cool! for me i'd rather have ice cream by the seaside, but dinner would be nice. my treat?

Well, others can explain it better than I; why not look up the wikipedia pages on determinism and free-will for starters?

The way I think of it is: just keep asking "Why?" Why do you make one decision and not another? Because of free-will, or because of the continuing mechanisms of your brain and environment? Free will is a very human-centric concept. Does a dog have free will? Does the ocean? Or hydrogen? Is consciousness really such a huge factor that it breaks all known laws of physics to imbue us with special privileges?


Hmm... I think I already do these! I've been gradually eliminating stresses from my life, and that has helped. Also I try not to overreact to negative stimulus, while understanding that as a human I will be sad, angry, and depressed at times.

From the tone of your posts before I thought you were more in favor of "whip-lashing adversity". I'd like to avoid that if possible.

Thanks for the reply!

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I'm also going to apologize at anything I said that might have been construed as a slight against someone.

I think I naturally taught myself CBT. I live alone, and I'm constantly asessing what needs to be improved, not just with my personality, but in my surroundings as well. Cleaning up your environment, and getting rid of the old things that use to represent the old self, is a great way of ridding of the bad auras and whatnot.

Thanks and the "wow" was at you insulting Insect (at least that's what it looked like at the time) After I read this post, I realized it wasn't an insult.

Hmm... Well I guessed those may be the culprits, although I find it difficult to see what is offensive about them. I was trying to understand her position, not insult her. The soup kitchen remark seemed a piquant way to get my opinion across; but it may have been too pointed.

I must admit I feel like your bias is showing. There have been cruelties of similar magnitude directed at myself and MR20 in this thread, which I suppose aren't enough to warrant a warning because you happen to agree with them. I chose to ignore those comments, to avoid any further acrimony. Also I hate censorship and wouldn't want to impede someone's ability to express themselves.

Please know that I mean no disrespect or emotional harm to others on this forum. I am merely trying to discuss the concepts and the ideologies they are birthed from.

I love a philosophical debate, but the fact of the matter is, you can't take a person and compare them to a dog or hydrogen. Whether we're here because of evolution, creationism, or cause some space aliens got bored and created us, the fact remains that we are on a different level than other things on this planet. I don't believe in fate, I wouldn't be concerned if someone said "Shane, you actually have no free will, sorry you got that impression", I just believe that I'm likely going waking up tomorrow and do something. Just, to me anyways, consciousness can be considered a human-centric concept, I agree, but everything we know of life and existence could be considered human-centric concepts, cause one day, long ago, some person said, "This is how this works, and we shall call it Physics". Everything can be placed in the category of human devised things, because at some point, some person thought about something and decided to name it and say "Thats the way it is cause I named it".

We come up with things, we devise, we name, we create, solely because it makes things easier to understand. It's easier for an Astronaut to consider why he weighs less on the moon by considering the physics and difference between the Earth and Moon because it's a lot harder to just simply think that when you're on the moon you weigh less just because. It's that whole idea that humans only understand things when they complicate the hell out of them, because it's to stressful and difficult when things don't have a logical answer, because humans for whatever reason have to have a reason/answer to everything to understand it. 2+2 only equals 4 cause that's what the person who came up with math decided. Like really, what does 4 really mean, why 4, why do they spell it four? Cause it's logical to say it equals 4, it's easier for the human mind to comprehend because in reality, we are not as intelligent as we think we are, we're simply smart enough to come up with things that make us feel like we understand.

Consciousness...now that one we could go on for awhile. To me, that's like trying to figure out what happens to all the energy and electricity in your body when you die. I that our "Soul"? Electricity doesn't just disappear, so where does it go? These subjects are fun to discuss, but the answers are vague and varying and there's lots of different opinions, there's is no solid answer.

were *you* given any official warning? actually i can answer that, and the answer is no. you needn't worry about anyone else's posts either.

you were insulted back after you insulted mv, and i would expect that. i would definitely say that my opinion here is coloured by the fact that you treated another member (me) the same way as mv, but in another thread. so when i saw you doing it to her, i was seeing a pattern. mv, however, has a pattern of being supportive and thoughtful and helpful in threads. so yes, i will see your posts differently.

if you think anyone's posts in the thread break any rules, feel free to send a PM and we will consider the information. but no official warnings were given here so far.

Oh, I let the Soup Kitchen comment slide. I don't particularly worry when it come to forums and people being rude or inappropriate, it's the internet for crying out loud. I also enjoy discussing these things at length and do enjoy hearing new opinions, and considering them. Things are getting a bit to, out there though, and some comments are being taken as insults (I don't mean anyone in particular), I think we have come to an impasse and we should cool down and retreat to another subject before an Iconic Debate starts going on, and people start getting insulted on purpose.

See, this type of stuff. That's not cool. It's sneaky and rude. Anyways, that conversation was getting dull and weird, let's talk about something more on topic. This is the Love and DAting forum after all. We could discuss the intricacies of love and courting habits of the teenager. Always an enjoyable topic full of magnificent insight and hilarious stories.

Or Unicorns and why virgins can only ride them. What about Unicorns that aren't virgins, how does that work?

yeah it wasn't so bad as all that. it was just that your post was so heartfelt and thoughtful, and we want to discourage rude and inappropriate behaviour on here. good advice is still good advice whether people agree with the methods or not.


and yeah, best to move on, i agree. lol@unicorns and virgins. what about boy virgins and female unicorns?