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10 Jun 2013, 2:02 pm

DialA ^^^^

I'm sure s**t is hard for you but you can't find true validation through others. I'm sure you have a niche. You just need to find it but these things can't happen overnight. I haven't seen a picture of you but I'm pretty sure a huge chunk of your issues is how you percieve how others percieve you rather than how you are actually percieved.

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I agree with all your points Geeko (yes, a lot of guys find overweight girls very beautiful, ask Tequilla, I simply don't for the very overweight) except point 1; leagues exist everywhere and in all social interactions, not just in romance, but that's another thread.
"Leagues" are shallow, socially ascribed nonsense trying to measure the immesurable. Real attraction is quite different and everyone has different standards for what constitutes a 10. Choosing to rank yourself and others only limits your options.



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10 Jun 2013, 2:08 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
DialA ^^^^

I'm sure sh** is hard for you but you can't find true validation through others.

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I agree with all your points Geeko (yes, a lot of guys find overweight girls very beautiful, ask Tequilla, I simply don't for the very overweight) except point 1; leagues exist everywhere and in all social interactions, not just in romance, but that's another thread.
"Leagues" are shallow, socially ascribed nonsense trying to measure the immesurable. Real attraction is quite different and everyone has different standards for what constitutes a 10. Choosing to rank yourself and others only limits your options.


Leagues are not just about looks, it's much more than that.



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10 Jun 2013, 2:56 pm

Men have the right to date whoever they are attracted to; however, unless they are exceptionally endowed in some aspect (physically, intellectually, financially, etc.) in some aspect it is highly unlikely they will be able to attract the exact type they fantasize about. The same goes for women.

One thing about going for a specific trait (looks, money, etc.) is that even if you get that coveted quality in a person, chances are likely that something else will be greatly deficient.

And buyer beware: Going for an extra fit woman does NOT render her more fertile. Quite often, it is to the contrary. If a female doesn't have a minimal % of body fat she will not get pregnant. Also, a nice skinny woman with big boobs may have a full blown eating disorder and cosmetic surgery that one day will likely need revamping. I guess if you like that kind of maintenance, you can always give it a shot!



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10 Jun 2013, 3:21 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
DialA ^^^^

I'm sure sh** is hard for you but you can't find true validation through others.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I agree with all your points Geeko (yes, a lot of guys find overweight girls very beautiful, ask Tequilla, I simply don't for the very overweight) except point 1; leagues exist everywhere and in all social interactions, not just in romance, but that's another thread.
"Leagues" are shallow, socially ascribed nonsense trying to measure the immesurable. Real attraction is quite different and everyone has different standards for what constitutes a 10. Choosing to rank yourself and others only limits your options.


Leagues are not just about looks, it's much more than that.

Exactly, all those who I've heard say leagues don't exist is because they over simplify them. And they also forget that value is not something universal.



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10 Jun 2013, 3:41 pm

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And buyer beware: Going for an extra fit woman does NOT render her more fertile. Quite often, it is to the contrary. If a female doesn't have a minimal % of body fat she will not get pregnant. Also, a nice skinny woman with big boobs may have a full blown eating disorder and cosmetic surgery that one day will likely need revamping. I guess if you like that kind of maintenance, you can always give it a shot!


See Geeko? mikassyna is talking leagues there and she's being realistic.



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And buyer beware: Going for an extra fit woman does NOT render her more fertile. Quite often, it is to the contrary. If a female doesn't have a minimal % of body fat she will not get pregnant. Also, a nice skinny woman with big boobs may have a full blown eating disorder and cosmetic surgery that one day will likely need revamping. I guess if you like that kind of maintenance, you can always give it a shot!


Same for the six-packs thing that a lot of women are crazy about, six-packs doesn't make a man healthier in most cases (unless the abs muscles are big due to extensive sports like ancient Greek warriors but it's usually about the fat). Humans aren't supposed to have fat lower than 10%, that's dangerously low, especially on the tummy.

Some women (who love six packs) and men (who are obsessed abt their temporary six-packs) would react in anger if you tell them so as if you've insulted their religion or something.



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10 Jun 2013, 3:47 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
DialA ^^^^

I'm sure sh** is hard for you but you can't find true validation through others. I'm sure you have a niche. You just need to find it but these things can't happen overnight. I haven't seen a picture of you but I'm pretty sure a huge chunk of your issues is how you percieve how others percieve you rather than how you are actually percieved.

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I agree with all your points Geeko (yes, a lot of guys find overweight girls very beautiful, ask Tequilla, I simply don't for the very overweight) except point 1; leagues exist everywhere and in all social interactions, not just in romance, but that's another thread.
"Leagues" are shallow, socially ascribed nonsense trying to measure the immesurable. Real attraction is quite different and everyone has different standards for what constitutes a 10. Choosing to rank yourself and others only limits your options.


Well, you could have said this to me instead of going on and on about how I have a victim complex. At least there's the realizatgion that unlike what you previously thought, I don't have it easy at all. Now this whole thing can be laid to rest. The only reason I keep fighting people on it is because they assume that my life is sunshine and rainbows. It's not, and telling me that I have to be confident, whatever the hell that means, isn't really the end-all be-all solution. It's like telling a quadriplegic that they can sprout limbs all of a sudden. lol


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10 Jun 2013, 3:47 pm

At the end of the day, what someone is attracted to is a very personal thing, which no one should be attacked for.

So what if the guy I like has a six-pack and a dorky haircut. Or that my ex was overweight and spent too much time on the PC. Those were my choices, I take full responsibility for them, including if it doesn't work out. Because the guy with the six-pack and a dorky haircut has just as much right to NOT be attracted to me as I am to him (please let him be attracted to me, please let him be attracted to me, please let him be attracted to me!).

"Shallow" it seems is just a term people use when the people they're attracted to aren't attracted to them and they get bitter about it. Newsflash: Life sucks for all of us, and NO ONE gets what they want all the time.


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10 Jun 2013, 4:08 pm

^ You're free to like six-packs but I was just saying that six-packs are often (the majority of cases) the result of unnatural fat levels, unnaturally imbalanced diet and in some cases involves nasty shortcuts like fat-burners, injections and the like. If your guy happens to have six-packs, umm ok...I am not saying you have to reject guys for that but that doesn't change the fact that a body fat less than 10% (and sometimes less 5% to make them appear) is unhealthy.



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10 Jun 2013, 4:59 pm

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Geekonychus wrote:
DialA ^^^^

I'm sure sh** is hard for you but you can't find true validation through others. I'm sure you have a niche. You just need to find it but these things can't happen overnight. I haven't seen a picture of you but I'm pretty sure a huge chunk of your issues is how you percieve how others percieve you rather than how you are actually percieved.

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I agree with all your points Geeko (yes, a lot of guys find overweight girls very beautiful, ask Tequilla, I simply don't for the very overweight) except point 1; leagues exist everywhere and in all social interactions, not just in romance, but that's another thread.
"Leagues" are shallow, socially ascribed nonsense trying to measure the immesurable. Real attraction is quite different and everyone has different standards for what constitutes a 10. Choosing to rank yourself and others only limits your options.


Well, you could have said this to me instead of going on and on about how I have a victim complex. At least there's the realizatgion that unlike what you previously thought, I don't have it easy at all. Now this whole thing can be laid to rest. The only reason I keep fighting people on it is because they assume that my life is sunshine and rainbows. It's not, and telling me that I have to be confident, whatever the hell that means, isn't really the end-all be-all solution. It's like telling a quadriplegic that they can sprout limbs all of a sudden. lol

I never once said anyone had it easy.......... Do you really think this s**t is easy for me either? It's not. It's exhausting and a lot of work. A ton of trial and error and heartbreak. I work hard everyday to be satisfied with my lot in life despite my social dyslexia, misanthropy and my ubermensch tendencies.

Rejection still hurts but acceptence of it comes far easier now. I used to be exactly like you, feeling stupid, ugly and unlovable and projecting those insecurities into others (didn't help that I was undiagnosed till last year.) I thought finding a girlfriend, a job, a better apartment, a car, would help but flash forward a year later after getting all those things and I still wasn't happy. What I didn't realize was that most people are just as self absorbed and insecure as me. They all think what they think is the universal truth and subconcously apply those attitudes to others.

Maybe you really are hideous to the point of scaring children but I suspect that's mostly BS. You're taking isolated incidents and making them out to be universal truths. Whether you mean to or not, this attitude is present and persistent and it really is impossible to keep it from seeping out into any romantic attempt you make. If you aren't secure in yourself, how are you supposed to be secure in a relationship?



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10 Jun 2013, 5:01 pm

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
DialA ^^^^

I'm sure sh** is hard for you but you can't find true validation through others.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I agree with all your points Geeko (yes, a lot of guys find overweight girls very beautiful, ask Tequilla, I simply don't for the very overweight) except point 1; leagues exist everywhere and in all social interactions, not just in romance, but that's another thread.
"Leagues" are shallow, socially ascribed nonsense trying to measure the immesurable. Real attraction is quite different and everyone has different standards for what constitutes a 10. Choosing to rank yourself and others only limits your options.


Leagues are not just about looks, it's much more than that.

Exactly, all those who I've heard say leagues don't exist is because they over simplify them. And they also forget that value is not something universal.


They say they don't exist because they don't want them to. I mean, if I was near the bottom league I wouldn't want to believe in leagues, either.



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10 Jun 2013, 5:02 pm

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And buyer beware: Going for an extra fit woman does NOT render her more fertile. Quite often, it is to the contrary. If a female doesn't have a minimal % of body fat she will not get pregnant. Also, a nice skinny woman with big boobs may have a full blown eating disorder and cosmetic surgery that one day will likely need revamping. I guess if you like that kind of maintenance, you can always give it a shot!


See Geeko? mikassyna is talking leagues there and she's being realistic.


I'm quite confused. What is your definition of league exactley? It seems like she's discussing personal preferences, not rankings.



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10 Jun 2013, 5:07 pm

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^ You're free to like six-packs but I was just saying that six-packs are often (the majority of cases) the result of unnatural fat levels, unnaturally imbalanced diet and in some cases involves nasty shortcuts like fat-burners, injections and the like. If your guy happens to have six-packs, umm ok...I am not saying you have to reject guys for that but that doesn't change the fact that a body fat less than 10% (and sometimes less 5% to make them appear) is unhealthy.


He's a professional sportsperson, so they have all their special diets and whatnot. Wish I had that sort of discipline sometimes.

My point (which you completely missed by the way) is that no one should be put down because of what they're attracted to. If they start whinging because what they're attracted to isn't attracted to them, then perhaps they need a bit of a Gibbs-slap (NCIS FTW).


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10 Jun 2013, 5:10 pm

Edit: I am really sorry, I wanted to quote that post, and whyever I edited it, when I should not be able to edit another ones post? Again sorry for that, Schneekugel. :(



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10 Jun 2013, 5:17 pm

You attract what you are.



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10 Jun 2013, 5:24 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
meem's photo could be seen as unusual (and I think it's sauna, not shower, at least this what I thought seeing it first time) but I see nothing sexual, seductive or attention seeking in it, not even the facial expression indicates any of this, it's not like she's showing boobs or ass but just face and shoulders :-|.

The casual duckface photos casually seen on fb are way way more attention seeking than this one (if it ever been intended to be for attention but It doesn't look like it).


I never looked that closely at her pic, and thought it was her sitting somewhere wearing a tank top. I wonder if the person who is bitching about her pic has ever heard of strapless bathing suits too? Not that you see anything there in the pic or that I'm saying she has one on. If I saw a pic of a girl in a public forum, with wet hair and skin (I didn't notice that till just now either) and nothing on her shoulders I'd assume she cropped a picture of her in a bathing suit. I have a bathing suit that is like that, so that's where my mind would automatically go. Either way, even if she was naked in it, it's cropped and you can't see anything.

I should probably be careful though, because in every picture of me I have, I'm naked under my clothes. And so are all ya'll too! Dang, we are a bunch of sluts aren't we on here, guys and girls! How dare we be naked under our clothes! ;-)


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10 Jun 2013, 5:35 pm

That post gave me chills, god I hate those line by line quote replies.