31 May 2007, 1:09 pm
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
I still don't see why you can get married, Ragtime, and I can't.
Neither do I.
I admit I take it on faith.But I am not of your faith. So why should these rules apply to me? I do not wish to live in a Christian theocracy.
That's why you're physically allowed to marry a woman, because God gave us all free will, and also gave us the full freedom to live in/with our choices. You'll probably meet a woman and marry her. Is God going to stop you? No. Are Christians? In the end, no. The correct ones will let you make you choice, in the end -- they are not your judges. God is. They just want you to re-think your decision before you go against God.
Yes, yes
Let's just get those diabolic and perverted people who deserve no grace from God.
You are still homophobic man?
Oh yes. The Bible
It's like you put my words through a foreign language translator five times and then back to English, or something. I'm not going to keep repeating myself to you. I told Sopho I don't see why she shouldn't marry a woman, but you chose to pretend you didn't read that. Let's try some honesty, okay?
31 May 2007, 1:10 pm
greenblue wrote:
You just keep quoting the Bible, yep that will convince us all.
Let me tell you that the Bible is SEXIST.
Let me tell you that the Bible is SEXIST.
Just keep saying it, just keep saying it...
It might help to try a different approach than you yourself criticize.
31 May 2007, 1:13 pm
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Some of them do actually feel threatened in some way. While that's valid, it's a sociological reaction, not truly a doctrinal one, even if they confuse the two. We all get confused at times, especially when we feel passionate or fearful about something. There's a difficult-to-word difference between distinguishing between the sexes and seeking to demote a gender in some way. For instance, the Bible says the man/father/patriarch should lead the home. Does that denegrate women, making them unequal with men? Not at all. Marriage is simply a role-playing exercise, and those are the roles He recommends. He also commands men: "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her" (Eph 5:25). And, "Husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself" (Eph 5:28 ). The sexes are equal in honor, but they have different roles to play in order to be most harmonious. My fiancé believes in this, and likes a lot. Besides, isn't stating that no man could ever make you happy -- simply because he does not have a vagina -- sexist of you? 
Actually I never said anything about a vagina. In terms of relationships, I was referring to gender, not sex. I could be with a woman who had a penis. And I didn't say no man could EVER make me happy. I said I doubt it, from experience. Sex should have nothing to do with marriage. What sex I am says nothing about me, especially as I am transgendered. It should be nobody's business but mine. And besides, quoting the Bible means nothing to me; like I said before, I do not live in a theocracy.
Okay, you're not sexist then. Since a certain gender is what you seek in a partner, would you marry a man who was a woman inside?
31 May 2007, 1:15 pm
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31 May 2007, 1:17 pm
greenblue wrote:
Sopho wrote:
I do not live in a theocracy.
Thank God
Might as well thank Him; He planned it this way.
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31 May 2007, 1:18 pm
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Besides, isn't stating that no man could ever make you happy -- simply because he does not have a vagina -- sexist of you?
LOL
That actually sounds funny!
It's not meant to be funny; I'm using Sopho's definitions and outlook as she's defined it.
31 May 2007, 1:19 pm
Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Besides, isn't stating that no man could ever make you happy -- simply because he does not have a vagina -- sexist of you?
LOL
That actually sounds funny!
It's not meant to be funny; I'm using Sopho's definitions and outlook as she's defined it.
No, you're not. Who I choose to have a relationship with is entirely different to who the government allows to have certain rights.
Gender is also entirely different to sex.
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31 May 2007, 1:30 pm
You really would have a relationship with a woman with a penis, Soph?
if so, than you are more open minded than I am 
31 May 2007, 1:32 pm
greenblue wrote:
You really would have a relationship with a woman with a penis, Soph?
if so, than you are more open minded than I am
if so, than you are more open minded than I am
If they were transgendered then I would consider it as they would be a woman in every other way. I wouldn't have sex with her though.
31 May 2007, 1:33 pm
