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05 Jan 2018, 5:55 pm

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Yeah, they're not college students.....

How do you know?

All I know here on Oregon most people my age or younger working low paid jobs are college students. Even the 30+ old guy is a college student. I can’t think of anyone at my work who’s working there as heir only job who’s my age and not management.

And pretty much all the fast food or restaurants in my area are staffed with 16-24 old women and girls. The cooks seem to be mostly men though. I dont know about the dishwashers as I don’t see them.

I’m going be working low paid jobs for rest of my life what hope do you honestly think I have with most women ?
I’m never fojg. Have a well paid job or be average apparently. Always going be a loser to women.



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05 Jan 2018, 6:00 pm

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To be honest, I’ve been thinking a lot about the endless stream of typically young guys who come in here to vent their frustrations with dating. I, as well as others have often tried to help them, but I have come to the conclusion that we shouldn’t.

If a person with a pervasive social development disorder who knows they have such a disorder posseses such a level of cognitive dissonance that have redefined normal and average to pertain to themselves rather than admit they are outliers to avoid facing the reality that normal average people are dating marrying and having sex in en mass, and they are not, by virtue of the fact that they are socially delayed alone, and their shortcomings are internal rather than external, these are individuals who, in their present mindset, lack the capacity to grow as people and should not be in relationships because they are not at a place where they would be able to Maintain one. They lack the necessary social fitness And few of them seem to never acquire it due to There in ability to Look them selves in the mirror and admit that they are not average and the problem is with them and not anyone else. While they are here trying to distort statistics To meet their comfortable delusion, the bulk of the human population is doing as it always did, having relationships marrying having sex and perpetuating the human species.

Why don’t you just come out and call us worthless losers?
I’ve never heard the middle class called average it’s always been the working jonthe average joe blue collar jobs not middle class white collar jobs.

Many women here have said I’m average guy then you now say average is only middle class income . So brings us back what about the millions and millions of loser men? Low income people make up the majority in America way more of use then average people. So do us worthless loser low class marry and live happy or is it just average people?

You started all those to prove people like us marry etc but then redefined average as being middle class income which most of us are not. I dont know what middle class people do I’m not middle class and never will be.

I wish people like you would stop offering your “help” it’s not help it’s condeming us no thinaks it just makes us feel worse and more depressed which is opposite of help.



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05 Jan 2018, 6:23 pm

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Do you not understand? Men can be racist or mysoginistic as long as they are good looking women will have sex with them. Women have secret rape fantasies and are okay being dominated by invasive species (economic migrant crisis). They have no loyalty to the tribe. It's the beta males who don't get away with anything. It's a form of control over average men.

Feminism is about controlling men!

Wake up.

Gosh, Sid, thanks so much for mansplaining that for me. (sarcasm)

Feminism, speaking as a feminist, is about no longer allowing men to control women.


Don't take it as offense but your avatar seems to pretty much reflect what a lot feminists wish to be. Strong jawlined, masculine looking man wanna be types who give up their femininity and try to force the rest of society to reflect their agendas while over 90% of the female population don't associate themselves with feminist ideas in other words feminists reflect a small but loud, extremist minority.

Um...she's an elf. With red hair. She's my avatar 'cause I think she's pretty.


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05 Jan 2018, 6:24 pm

Also, if Sidwulf's response was sarcastic and I misunderstood it, my apologies. That happens to me. :oops:


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05 Jan 2018, 6:24 pm

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To be honest, I’ve been thinking a lot about the endless stream of typically young guys who come in here to vent their frustrations with dating. I, as well as others have often tried to help them, but I have come to the conclusion that we shouldn’t.

If a person with a pervasive social development disorder who knows they have such a disorder posseses such a level of cognitive dissonance that have redefined normal and average to pertain to themselves rather than admit they are outliers to avoid facing the reality that normal average people are dating marrying and having sex in en mass, and they are not, by virtue of the fact that they are socially delayed alone, and their shortcomings are internal rather than external, these are individuals who, in their present mindset, lack the capacity to grow as people and should not be in relationships because they are not at a place where they would be able to Maintain one. They lack the necessary social fitness And few of them seem to never acquire it due to There in ability to Look them selves in the mirror and admit that they are not average and the problem is with them and not anyone else. While they are here trying to distort statistics To meet their comfortable delusion, the bulk of the human population is doing as it always did, having relationships marrying having sex and perpetuating the human species.


^ This.


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05 Jan 2018, 6:27 pm

sly279 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Yeah, they're not college students.....

How do you know?

All I know here on Oregon most people my age or younger working low paid jobs are college students. Even the 30+ old guy is a college student. I can’t think of anyone at my work who’s working there as heir only job who’s my age and not management.

And pretty much all the fast food or restaurants in my area are staffed with 16-24 old women and girls. The cooks seem to be mostly men though. I dont know about the dishwashers as I don’t see them.

I’m going be working low paid jobs for rest of my life what hope do you honestly think I have with most women ?
I’m never fojg. Have a well paid job or be average apparently. Always going be a loser to women.


Because I speak with them and I know.

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05 Jan 2018, 6:33 pm

palaua wrote:
MissChess wrote:
SIDWULF wrote:
Do you not understand? Men can be racist or mysoginistic as long as they are good looking women will have sex with them. Women have secret rape fantasies and are okay being dominated by invasive species (economic migrant crisis). They have no loyalty to the tribe. It's the beta males who don't get away with anything. It's a form of control over average men.

Feminism is about controlling men!

Wake up.

Gosh, Sid, thanks so much for mansplaining that for me. (sarcasm)

Feminism, speaking as a feminist, is about no longer allowing men to control women.


Don't take it as offense but your avatar seems to pretty much reflect what a lot feminists wish to be. Strong jawlined, masculine looking man wanna be types who give up their femininity and try to force the rest of society to reflect their agendas while over 90% of the female population don't associate themselves with feminist ideas in other words feminists reflect a small but loud, extremist minority.

That's right! Feminists secretly want to turn themselves into men! /sarcasm


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05 Jan 2018, 6:36 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
palaua wrote:
MissChess wrote:
SIDWULF wrote:
Do you not understand? Men can be racist or mysoginistic as long as they are good looking women will have sex with them. Women have secret rape fantasies and are okay being dominated by invasive species (economic migrant crisis). They have no loyalty to the tribe. It's the beta males who don't get away with anything. It's a form of control over average men.

Feminism is about controlling men!

Wake up.

Gosh, Sid, thanks so much for mansplaining that for me. (sarcasm)

Feminism, speaking as a feminist, is about no longer allowing men to control women.


Don't take it as offense but your avatar seems to pretty much reflect what a lot feminists wish to be. Strong jawlined, masculine looking man wanna be types who give up their femininity and try to force the rest of society to reflect their agendas while over 90% of the female population don't associate themselves with feminist ideas in other words feminists reflect a small but loud, extremist minority.

That's right! Feminists secretly want to turn themselves into men! /sarcasm

Thank you for the tag, Retro, I'm really awful at figuring out sarcasm. Particularly in a text-based format. :D


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05 Jan 2018, 6:38 pm

Yep....she really is an attractive elf.....



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05 Jan 2018, 6:41 pm

sly279 wrote:
Chronos wrote:
To be honest, I’ve been thinking a lot about the endless stream of typically young guys who come in here to vent their frustrations with dating. I, as well as others have often tried to help them, but I have come to the conclusion that we shouldn’t.

If a person with a pervasive social development disorder who knows they have such a disorder posseses such a level of cognitive dissonance that have redefined normal and average to pertain to themselves rather than admit they are outliers to avoid facing the reality that normal average people are dating marrying and having sex in en mass, and they are not, by virtue of the fact that they are socially delayed alone, and their shortcomings are internal rather than external, these are individuals who, in their present mindset, lack the capacity to grow as people and should not be in relationships because they are not at a place where they would be able to Maintain one. They lack the necessary social fitness And few of them seem to never acquire it due to There in ability to Look them selves in the mirror and admit that they are not average and the problem is with them and not anyone else. While they are here trying to distort statistics To meet their comfortable delusion, the bulk of the human population is doing as it always did, having relationships marrying having sex and perpetuating the human species.

Why don’t you just come out and call us worthless losers?
I’ve never heard the middle class called average it’s always been the working jonthe average joe blue collar jobs not middle class white collar jobs.

Many women here have said I’m average guy then you now say average is only middle class income . So brings us back what about the millions and millions of loser men? Low income people make up the majority in America way more of use then average people. So do us worthless loser low class marry and live happy or is it just average people?

You started all those to prove people like us marry etc but then redefined average as being middle class income which most of us are not. I dont know what middle class people do I’m not middle class and never will be.

I wish people like you would stop offering your “help” it’s not help it’s condeming us no thinaks it just makes us feel worse and more depressed which is opposite of help.

Look up the statistics. Oregon has a median income of Median income: $50,251 per year. Based on that it sounds like the typical Oregonian is middle class.


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05 Jan 2018, 6:45 pm

palaua wrote:
MissChess wrote:
SIDWULF wrote:
Do you not understand? Men can be racist or mysoginistic as long as they are good looking women will have sex with them. Women have secret rape fantasies and are okay being dominated by invasive species (economic migrant crisis). They have no loyalty to the tribe. It's the beta males who don't get away with anything. It's a form of control over average men.

Feminism is about controlling men!

Wake up.

Gosh, Sid, thanks so much for mansplaining that for me. (sarcasm)

Feminism, speaking as a feminist, is about no longer allowing men to control women.


Don't take it as offense but your avatar seems to pretty much reflect what a lot feminists wish to be. Strong jawlined, masculine looking man wanna be types who give up their femininity and try to force the rest of society to reflect their agendas while over 90% of the female population don't associate themselves with feminist ideas in other words feminists reflect a small but loud, extremist minority.


"Don't take it as offense" but your comment seems to contain a lot of psychological projection and to be more about your own gender insecurities than about the avatar of the person you are "not intending to offend". :wink:



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05 Jan 2018, 6:49 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Enough of this 20% crap!

This "theory" doesn't stand up when placed before people who have actually gone out and lived life.

Who in the "ef" is in the "top 20%," anyway? How can you determine that?

Just because a guy looks like a model doesn't mean he smells like one. Or he can have bad breath. Or he can just be a total as*hole.


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05 Jan 2018, 6:49 pm

I hate statistics when it comes to social research.

They do not reflect individual people.

When people rely on (faulty) statistics, they tend to "stay down," rather than rise up.

All this 20%, 80%, whatever----doesn't apply to me. Alpha-Beta-Gamma-Delta.....what is this, "Brave New World?"

I happen to know that most couples still enjoy having sex even when they're elderly. The divorce rate has gone down considerably since the 1970s.

I'm probably in the "beta" category. Yet I've had some pretty nice women in my time. Most weren't "models"---but they were cute enough, trust me, even if they were "average" from a "statistical" standpoint.



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05 Jan 2018, 6:50 pm

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The assumption that men will settle for dating most women is just absolutely incorrect. Just because you might feel like you would settle for dating most any woman doesn't mean that most every guy shares that opinion. I would prefer to not date at all over dating most women I meet. I like my personal space and time and there are very few people that I would sacrifice that for. A majority of my single friends, both male and female, share my point of view.


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05 Jan 2018, 6:53 pm

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It's threads like this that make me feel lucky to be asexual.


:lol: :lol: :lol: pity the fools. :wink:



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05 Jan 2018, 6:55 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I hate statistics when it comes to social research.

They do not reflect individual people.

When people rely on (faulty) statistics, they tend to "stay down," rather than rise up.

All this 20%, 80%, whatever----doesn't apply to me. Alpha-Beta-Gamma-Delta.....what is this, "Brave New World?"

I happen to know that most couples still enjoy having sex even when they're elderly. The divorce rate has gone down considerably since the 1970s.

I'm probably in the "beta" category. Yet I've had some pretty nice women in my time. Most weren't "models"---but they were cute enough, trust me, even if they were "average" from a "statistical" standpoint.

First, your use of the phrase "rise up" has the Hamilton soundtrack echoing in my head now. As earworms go, I've had a lot worse, so thanks!

Second, as a woman in her early 50s, heck yes. It's far more fun now than it was in my 20s.


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