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funeralxempire wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
There's nothing better than a desperate guy trying to act like they're doing a woman a favor by being willing to "settle" for them. "Nobody will ever feel the same way about you that I do" may sound romantic in Wonderwall, but in reality, it's kinda a roundabout way of saying "you're so unlovable, you should be thankful someone like me is paying attention to you".
Unless it's an open admission of I'm obsessed to an unhealthy degree and you will never have to deal with this sort of intense romantic infatuation again after this.
Yes, indeed. "Nobody will be more creepily desperately obsessed with you than I am." Either way, not a good thing.
"You'll never meet another guy like me!" Here's hoping...
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10 Mar 2023, 11:59 pm
IsabellaLinton wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
"Nobody will ever feel the same way about you that I do" may sound romantic in Wonderwall, but in reality, it's kinda a roundabout way of saying "you're so unlovable, you should be thankful someone like me is paying attention to you".
Unless it's an open admission of I'm obsessed to an unhealthy degree and you will never have to deal with this sort of intense romantic infatuation again after this.
I had a partner say that to me all the time. He said it so I wouldn't kick him out of my house. He preferred living with me, stealing from me and my kids, and abusing us physically and psychologically.
I knew it was desperation and gaslighting on his part. He was trying to manipulate my self-concept so I'd feel insecure about raising the kids by myself. Even then, it took a long time before I had the resources to get away from him relatively safely.
I don't think there's anything remotely romantic about saying "No one will ever love you this much again". How is that romantic? If they really love the person and think they're a great human being, they should be saying "All sorts of people will fall in love with you. I better treat you right or one of those other people will win your heart instead of me."
When I say romantic, I don't mean it in any sort of positive sense, and certainly not in a healthy sense.
There can be a massive disconnect between what others find romantically appealing and what romantic feelings/attachments can motivate a person to do.
Not all expressions of romance are healthy, but they don't automatically cease to have that motive because they're unhealthy.
In particular I would think of how emotionally immature and/or emotionally maladapted people tend to express romantic (or other attachments); it can often be clingy, possessive... kinda like a poorly socialized pet with separation anxieties. Borderline personality disorder is known to present in this manner.
That's not to say that manipulative people don't feign that sort of emotional vulnerability in order to take advantage of people.
Saying something that amounts to 'I'd give you more of myself than anyone else is willing to give anyone else' is over-the-top, but not demeaning or insulting to the person who's hearing it. Although, worded differently, it could certainly end up miscommunication the intended message.
Honestly, the lyric kinda sounds like one of those things you'd wish you had said more precisely, no matter what the intended meaning was.
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11 Mar 2023, 12:01 am
uncommondenominator wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
There's nothing better than a desperate guy trying to act like they're doing a woman a favor by being willing to "settle" for them. "Nobody will ever feel the same way about you that I do" may sound romantic in Wonderwall, but in reality, it's kinda a roundabout way of saying "you're so unlovable, you should be thankful someone like me is paying attention to you".
Unless it's an open admission of I'm obsessed to an unhealthy degree and you will never have to deal with this sort of intense romantic infatuation again after this.
Yes, indeed. "Nobody will be more creepily desperately obsessed with you than I am." Either way, not a good thing.
"You'll never meet another guy like me!" Here's hoping...
Keep in mind, that was the same era Creep came out. I think being messed up was in fashion at the time. A lot of rock with introspective lyrics is guys talking about their unhealthy mindsets, feelings and coping mechanisms with self-awareness lacking to varying degrees.
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11 Mar 2023, 12:20 am
funeralxempire wrote:
Keep in mind, that was the same era Creep came out. I think being messed up was in fashion at the time. A lot of rock with introspective lyrics is guys talking about their unhealthy mindsets, feelings and coping mechanisms with self-awareness lacking to varying degrees.
Messed up people have always existed. While I definitely see your point, I'd more put it as, being messed up was heavily marketed for the first time - particularly towards hormonal emotional angry young adults - and that opened the door for for being messed up to be worn as a badge of honor more openly.
funeralxempire wrote:
Honestly, the lyric kinda sounds like one of those things you'd wish you had said more precisely, no matter what the intended meaning was.
It has generally been my experience that if one can't find a way to say something so it doesn't sound bad, it may not be as good a thing as one thinks it is.
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11 Mar 2023, 12:31 am
uncommondenominator wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Keep in mind, that was the same era Creep came out. I think being messed up was in fashion at the time. A lot of rock with introspective lyrics is guys talking about their unhealthy mindsets, feelings and coping mechanisms with self-awareness lacking to varying degrees.
Messed up people have always existed. While I definitely see your point, I'd more put it as, being messed up was heavily marketed for the first time - particularly towards hormonal emotional angry young adults - and that opened the door for for being messed up to be worn as a badge of honor more openly.
funeralxempire wrote:
Honestly, the lyric kinda sounds like one of those things you'd wish you had said more precisely, no matter what the intended meaning was.
It has generally been my experience that if one can't find a way to say something so it doesn't sound bad, it may not be as good a thing as one thinks it is.
It's not a matter of good/bad, it's more a matter of ambiguity. It sounds bad either way, just differently bad.
11 Mar 2023, 12:34 am
OK I read back, and it's not. ^
I thought I'd missed more references to "Creep" than the one fxe just made.
Also, I just noticed you mentioned "Wonderwall" (Yes I have ADHD. 
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Context, Issy. Context.
11 Mar 2023, 12:36 am
funeralxempire wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I haven't read back very far. Is this all related to Radiohead?
Radiohead and Oasis - the original lyric was an Oasis lyric.
Right - Just took the time to read.
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IsabellaLinton wrote:
What do you mean?
I don't know what Alpha / Chad is, and why you say it's fire.
I don't know what Alpha / Chad is, and why you say it's fire.
11 Mar 2023, 2:37 am
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