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17 Nov 2010, 11:40 am

I do think MR20 is a troll in that he's always trying to provoke anger, but I didn't get the impression he was a sockpuppet.

That said, I'm not against suicide as long as it's done responsibly.

MR20, do what you have to do.



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17 Nov 2010, 11:44 am

I'm not a troll :cry:

I really have problems. I not trying make fun of anyone with anything.

Look this is my first time opening up completely about my problems to anyone (social workers, doctors, parents, etc included) I'm a really bad place right now and I just needed someone to listen. I'm really hurt that people actually consider me disingenuous and is just making up stuff.



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17 Nov 2010, 11:48 am

Leiservampir wrote:
I have been reading this thread for a while now.

I believe that the thread should be deleted, because after 14 pages of reading, it doesn't seem to matter what people say, you will always find something negative in it. You're a negative person from what I can see, so maybe that's your problem with women. You recently said
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Let's just stop beating around the bush. Just say what you all really want to say. That I'm a ugly, uneducated ret*d that's useless and has no future in anything. That I'm annoying and you wouldn't be friends with me if I was the last person on earth. That you wish I would delete this thread because you've grown tired me and now you know why people don't want to hang out or be friends with me. Just say that I should kill myself because there's nothing ahead for a useless bum like me.


I think we could all guess exactly what you'd reply if anyone said this - something else negative and away from the point. I also think you're a troll, and that you are trying to make fun of people. Example:
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4. This thread and all your other contributions to this forum lead me to believe that you are a troll and therefore beyond our help.

4. I'm not a troll. Stop being mean to me, I haven't made fun of anyone in this thread.

The bolded text is proof that you are, in fact, making fun of people and I can explain why.

Lets pretend a girl, we'll call her Kate, decides to troll a website and make fun of people. She writes on a forum and pretends to be someone she's not, at the same time making fun of people like this pretend Kate, but in a way that looks "real". She knows damn well that she's making fun of people even if she doesn't say it outright. In the replies she gets, there is someone who sees her for what she is, but she is prepared to defend her fake identity. When the person who's noticed decides to call her a troll, she then states "I'm not a troll. Stop being mean to me, I haven't made fun of anyone in this thread!". The person accusing her of being a troll never mentioned her making fun of anyone, but she has written it anyway. Why?
Because the fact that she knows she is is in her head, so in the heat of the moment she defends herself from what she knows she's doing, and hence comes negative transferral - she lets slip what she's doing by not paying close enough attention to what she's writing, and therefore without thinking, transfers herself (the making fun of people) onto her fake identity (the poor asperger's person who can't make friends).

You are Kate.

Now if you don't mind, I'm off to read threads that are actually of meaning and aren't just a stab at the community it's aimed at :wink:


I thought being a troll meant mocking people or something about them just to get a rise out of them and everyone else on a board. I haven't been doing that... at least I hope not.



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17 Nov 2010, 3:39 pm

This kinda vitriol causes wars! If the OP committed suicide because of these nasty comments, then by f*****g god, would you offenders be up s**t creek!! I'd make sure that you are all brought up on charges.



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17 Nov 2010, 4:37 pm

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I thought being a troll meant mocking people or something about them just to get a rise out of them and everyone else on a board. I haven't been doing that... at least I hope not.


You're repeating yourself without taking any of the practical and USEFUL advice that everyone has posted here. You keep asking why people are mean and nasty to you on occassional and you get a reasonable answer, yet you ignore it entirely.

EVERY single person alive has been mistreated at one point. Yeah, sometimes it happens as a mistake, other times the people are intentionally cruel and mean. The point is, it WILL happen and it does happen.

Solution? Deal with it, when people say that others have it worse than you, we don't just mean have it worse and succumbed to pain and misery--we mean that they got THROUGH it and in some cases can live productive and meaningful lives.

You seem decently intelligent, people are starting to think you're a troll because you defended yourself against an accusation that wasn't even made. None of the people on here I believe would intentionally make fun of you, or wish harm upon you.

You say its the first time you've ever really talked about your problems, but instead of talking the problems out further, or hanging around here and possibly getting the very small tidbits of wisdom and encouragement of people with similar problems you've already threatened suicide like 5 times.

If you're not a troll, actually allow the advice of people here to sink in. Or just talk and take relief in knowing that you're not the only one going through these difficulties.



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17 Nov 2010, 4:39 pm

f**k you, who do you think you are Judge Judy?
no one did anything to cause a suicide, he just wants us to tell him to kill himself so its justified in his own mind
people can get anything from something, it happens all the time



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17 Nov 2010, 4:41 pm

Craig28 wrote:
This kinda vitriol causes wars! If the OP committed suicide because of these nasty comments, then by f***ing god, would you offenders be up sh** creek!! I'd make sure that you are all brought up on charges.


Charges of what?



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17 Nov 2010, 4:47 pm

Smike wrote:
Craig28 wrote:
This kinda vitriol causes wars! If the OP committed suicide because of these nasty comments, then by f***ing god, would you offenders be up sh** creek!! I'd make sure that you are all brought up on charges.


Charges of what?


I assume he feels he can get us all arrested for somehow making someone commit suicide because we didn't sugar coat him



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17 Nov 2010, 4:59 pm

To be fair, Kilroy, you were being an ass.



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17 Nov 2010, 5:14 pm

no I was telling him what he wanted to hear



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17 Nov 2010, 5:57 pm

An IP check should clear up if this member is a sock puppet. Looking at his recent posts, I am leaning that way, and if not well, meh I dunno.



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17 Nov 2010, 7:15 pm

I just see stubbornness and difficulty to recognize one's own mistake (witch btw were recognized as common in two different posts not so long ago)

And it's interesting to see that bullying is not a matter a quality but just a matter of quantity.


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17 Nov 2010, 7:51 pm

menintights wrote:
To be fair, Kilroy, you were being an ass.

true. isn't that also trollish behaviour?


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18 Nov 2010, 4:02 am

MR20 wrote:
Leiservampir wrote:
I also think you're a troll...

Leiservampir wrote:
...proof that you are, in fact, making fun of people


I thought being a troll meant mocking people or something about them just to get a rise out of them and everyone else on a board. I haven't been doing that... at least I hope not.


Mocking people is the same as taking the piss/making fun of, genius.

:hmph:


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18 Nov 2010, 12:01 pm

Leiservampir wrote:
MR20 wrote:
Leiservampir wrote:
I also think you're a troll...

Leiservampir wrote:
...proof that you are, in fact, making fun of people


I thought being a troll meant mocking people or something about them just to get a rise out of them and everyone else on a board. I haven't been doing that... at least I hope not.


Mocking people is the same as taking the piss/making fun of, genius.

:hmph:


Come on is this called for? I never said anything to you like that. It seem you're the one doing the trolling.

Look I have to apologize to the people throughout this thread that I may have offended. Reading back through the thread, people were only trying to help or offer advice in their own way.

I'd like a mod to close this thread since I've made another one in The Haven (where this thread should've been in the first place)


thanks



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18 Nov 2010, 12:01 pm

oh dear god NO!! !