Why men are increasingly preferring Video Games over dating
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Long article. I don't think most of us read it before posting. Personally, I'd still rather pursue women than sit at home playing video games.
Interesting that in TB's opinion, and, it would seem, that of the article
"dating" is interchangeable with "sex".
If your main reason to date is to gain access to living blow up dolls, then naturally being faced with criticism, rejection, or flat-out having to TRY once in a relationship, you're just gonna resort to your hand and some sort of porn glorifying naggy-b*tches getting their payback.
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Then I'll modify TB's claim somewhat...
It is generally considered a fact that a man will prefer the love, attention, and affection of a beautiful woman over a video game; but when the woman places the value of her interest so far out of reach of the average man, a good video game can be a valid second or third option for that man.
I mean, c'mon, ladies! Maybe the reason that men spend so much time playing video games is that you have failed to engage their interest, or that you require more from them than they can deliver in exchange for your interest.
Maybe not ... your opinions and results may vary ...
but it isn't even necessarily happening... gamers were surveyed (non-scientifically) about gaming habits vs. dating. not the general population of men (including non-gamers). they could have been 90% gaming addicts for all we know.
most men and women are not unattainable, and most of us eventually have sex/date/marry. the men and women who don't end up in these situations have various reasons for iy, but to assume that it is because women supposedly make men jump through hoops is a unfounded.
the tone i get from the article (i finally read it) is that the author appears to want to knock women down a notch for some reason known only to himself. but women aren't up on high horses that most men can't ever reach. the vast majority of women are right on the ground alongside the vast majority of men.
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1. Both are prone to break down when you least expect it.
2. It's easier to cheat when you know which buttons to push.
3. The longer you play one game, the easier it is to score with it.
4. It is better to score well and often than to have the highest score once.
5. No matter how well-written the rule books may be, they do not tell you everything you need to know about playing the game.
6. Sometimes, you just need to take a break from the game.
7. You never know how much fun a particular game will be unless you take a chance on losing.
8. In order to perfect your skills in one game, you need to avoid all other games.
9. Each game has its own unique method of play.
10. It doesn't matter if the lights are on or off, as long as you play the game.
I like the list

Your tire of harder games settings so go for easy settings may be intellectually a rust bucket bland and boring though you think to yourself at least it wont give me dramas and nasty surprises,
Not that their are many games in this day and age that offer much challenge even on the "hardest " settings when was the last time you played a hard game, list it.
I was reminded how easy the games of today are after replaying Tomb raider 3 recently



I'm only cautiously optimistic on the next Tomb Raider last time they took it in a new direction we got the Angel of Darkness Darkness

* and length I completed it in 20 hrs a TR game should be min 40- 50 hrs +

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Just realize that when you try to talk to a woman, or try to slowly impress her at work, she probably has an e-mail inbox with 1200 unread datingsite messages from George Clooney look-alike's. Whether they are fake, pickup artists, real George Clooney's, or anything inbetween doesn't matter, this affects their mind, and raises their demands on men. That is also economy: demand and supply.
A lot of people seem to have similar attitudes. I think it comes from having been treated as less-than-ideal by others, who in turn always seem to be looking for something better ... or maybe something completely unattainable.
Then why is it so fripping difficult for an ordinary, average Joe to establish a relationship without first undergoing a battery of questions and critiques regarding his job, his past relationships, his education, and how close he is to his mother?
Well, metaphorically speaking, my opinion is that the vast majority of women I was seeing seemed intent on looking for gold in the heavens without any real respect for the silver at their feet - they are willing to 'settle' for me but then they went about trying to change me into something more closely resembling their ideal man.
I am blessed to have finally found my wife, in that she loves me for who I am, and not for whom she wants me to be.
A lot of people seem to have similar attitudes. I think it comes from having been treated as less-than-ideal by others, who in turn always seem to be looking for something better ... or maybe something completely unattainable.
Then why is it so fripping difficult for an ordinary, average Joe to establish a relationship without first undergoing a battery of questions and critiques regarding his job, his past relationships, his education, and how close he is to his mother?
Well, metaphorically speaking, my opinion is that the vast majority of women I was seeing seemed intent on looking for gold in the heavens without any real respect for the silver at their feet - they are willing to 'settle' for me but then they went about trying to change me into something more closely resembling their ideal man.
I am blessed to have finally found my wife, in that she loves me for who I am, and not for whom she wants me to be.
it isn't that difficult for the average Joe. again. most men and most women have sex/date/marry. it isn't an insurmountable task for the majority of the population. it takes work from both men and women though.
i don't know what women you encountered, but it sounds like you were filtering and judging women according to your own bias. i don't know why you ended up with those women, or why they ended up with you, as you were clearly incompatible.
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Most were working-class American women from in or around the university I was attending at the time. Most were liberal-arts majors, and most had to secure educational loans. Most claimed to be 'spiritual' but not religious. In other words, most were ordinary, average women in their late teens or early twenties trying to earn a Bachelor's degree.
The only other time that I was single and working, I was in the military. Most of the women then seemed to be interested in either bedding a "Top Gun" from the fighter school, or they were looking for a naive, young enlistee whom they could wed and collect spousal support from while living in enlisted housing on the government's dime.
In both cases, the women I could meet were from the immediate area (a university, a military base, and the neighborhoods surrounding them), and most seemed to have similar goals and values - not a good scientific sample, but that's all I had to work with.
I was first approached by a girl. It made things a lot easier. Before that, I was the statistic of a teenage male playing video games. People should be approached based on who is the shyer one. Not what is dangling between their legs.
It is a double standard against men that makes it so exasperating to find a date. There is still the expectation that the man pay for the date is a key example.
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Coming to WP makes me feel even more out of touch with reality, sometimes.
I had no clue, for instance, that in the modern era men are still expected to pay for dates.
I've honestly never heard of it, and I live in the very antiquated South.
I'm not sure flatly-declaring that men are faced with a battery of questioning/interrogation in the process of dating necessarily makes it so.
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Seems like some still feel there is relevancy in this opinion piece. I'm going to take apart the most obvious shenanigans. Don't have time to go through line by line.
Here's a quote of his 'cost/benefit' pseudo-economic b.s. :
We have a 100 points of sexual needs
We have a 100 points of emotional and social needs
Right here, the premise is faulty. Why 100 pts? What basis? Sexual needs could be 10 pts and emotional/ social needs could be 1000. Or it could be flipped. Why are emotional and social grouped together? The author is using a combination of fallacies to set up the rest of his argument. (see misleading vividness, false attribution, and fallacy of composition)
Sex with Women:
- I need to provide 10,000 points of effort to get 50 points of sexual satisfaction(average effort required to get average skilled woman)
- I need to provide 100,000 points of effort to get 100 points of sexual satisfaction(average effort required to get a woman that’s amazing in bed)
Again, his points are assigned arbitrarily--or should I say purposefully--to manipulate the desired outcome. Why is average 10k points and not, say, 2 pts? Why is amazing 100k, and not 1 million? Why does the average woman only offer 50 pts of sexual satisfaction, and not 75? I think you get the idea.
Sex with your right hand:
- I need to invest 0.00000001 points of effort to get 50 points of sexual satisfaction
- I need to invest 0.01 points of effort to get 70 points of sexual satisfaction
Sex with a sex-bot (sex-replacement technologies):
- I invest 1 point of effort to get 80 points of sexual satisfaction
Sex with escorts or sugar-babies:*
- I need to invest 0.01 points of effort to get a 95** points of sexual satisfaction
Do you see the fallacy now? Here he's created an arbitrary and absurdly low number for masturbation effort, and then equating it to the same sexual gratification as an average woman. Why isn't this satisfaction rated at 6 pts? He then makes the outlandish claim that if he puts in a 1,000,000 times the effort (divide .01 by .00000001) -- as if that is even remotely possible -- his masturbatory satisfaction is somewhere between having sex with an average woman and an amazing woman...except that I've already shown that his numbers are entirely arbitrary.
He's making up evidence to fit his self-pitying world view. It's a pseudo-intellectual tour de force. "Oh, but he's just using these numbers to prove a point." Exactly. And I could pick different numbers (you can try this yourself), and come up with an entirely different conclusion -- specifically that the effort involved to gain the love of a woman is well worth the energy expended.
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And if a guy would rather have a doll than a real woman, what should I care? That's not a man I would want to date anyway.
As for feminism. I notice the only men who bring it up are men who have a hard time with relationships.
Damn those hairy-legged women's libbers for wanting women to be able to choose who to date!
~shakes fist~
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to his Interest."
And just who gives them a hard time with relationships, eh?
Hint: It isn't their video games.

i suppose it is their female counterparts, who are having an equally hard time.
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