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08 Aug 2013, 9:30 pm

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Anyway, the internet seems to be full of talk about the "Asian fetish" and how it's rooted in sexism. So I wanted to make a comparison of stereotypes about the Asian fetish with the reasons why white women, also, often date interracially (not all do so for these reasons, but some undoubtedly do). When you line up interracial daters side by side, it appears that both men and women who do it often do it out of reasons equally rooted in sexism and gender stereotypes.

For starters, it is socially acceptable to say: Why some white women prefer black men.....


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Yet another thread that makes me glad to be queer. I'm a fat, white woman with a pretty quiet personality. I don't find anything that different, personality-wise between me and Asian women, it's just that they look thinner and younger and some men think that means more feminine or submissive. BS.


Our ladies do seem to take the "Asian menace" more personally than the gents do the preference that many ladies have for Black gents.

A lot of men like younger and thinner women. Some like chubbier ones.

I really can't argue with the arguments mentioned previously for some women preferring Black men. Their preferences are their preferences, and I certainly respect that. Their perspective is their perspective, and they're basically right, anyway. A chick who likes Black dudes would probably be very disappointed if she had to settle for a chap like me. I certainly wouldn't want that to happen. I say, follow your heart.



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08 Aug 2013, 9:45 pm

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Our ladies do seem to take the "Asian menace" more personally than the gents do the preference that many ladies have for Black gents.

As far as I can tell, the problem is that certain male posters in this thread are idealizing Asian women as ultra-feminine at the expense of other races of women, and frankly that idealization is making me uncomfortable too. It's one thing to find Asian women subjectively more attractive, and that's fine with me, but putting down other types of women the way these posters are doing is offensive both to non-Asian women and the men who like them. As a white guy who likes African women more, I don't particularly enjoy reading about how Asian women are supposedly more feminine or otherwise better than all other women, implicitly including the women I personally fancy.



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08 Aug 2013, 9:49 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
Anyway, the internet seems to be full of talk about the "Asian fetish" and how it's rooted in sexism. So I wanted to make a comparison of stereotypes about the Asian fetish with the reasons why white women, also, often date interracially (not all do so for these reasons, but some undoubtedly do). When you line up interracial daters side by side, it appears that both men and women who do it often do it out of reasons equally rooted in sexism and gender stereotypes.

For starters, it is socially acceptable to say: Why some white women prefer black men.....


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Yet another thread that makes me glad to be queer. I'm a fat, white woman with a pretty quiet personality. I don't find anything that different, personality-wise between me and Asian women, it's just that they look thinner and younger and some men think that means more feminine or submissive. BS.


Our ladies do seem to take the "Asian menace" more personally than the gents do the preference that many ladies have for Black gents.

A lot of men like younger and thinner women. Some like chubbier ones.

I really can't argue with the arguments mentioned previously for some women preferring Black men. Their preferences are their preferences, and I certainly respect that. Their perspective is their perspective, and they're basically right, anyway. A chick who likes Black dudes would probably be very disappointed if she had to settle for a chap like me. I certainly wouldn't want that to happen. I say, follow your heart.


I think you just notice women complaining about Asian women more because you're a man that likes Asian women. I've heard both women and men complaining about interracial dating.

I just couldn't be with anyone who had racial and gender stereotypes so ingrained in their thoughts. If those people don't think I'm a real woman, then I'm glad if they leave me alone.

When I was a university, I was friends with a fat, tomboyish Japanese girls who at the time was looking for a Western man because she found Japanese men on the whole, too uptight. Despite being Asian, it did take her a while to find a boyfriend because not only did she fit none of stereotypes of Asian women, but she also wanted a proper, equal relationship. She did find one in the end, though. She is a lovely person and as cute as hell. In a way she was lucky to have her appearance as acting as a 'filter' from the men who might stereotype her along gender and racial grounds.


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08 Aug 2013, 9:54 pm

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Um, where I'm from I've heard white men say 'they're stealing our women!' about both black men and Muslim men from North Africa and the Indian subcontinent. That sort of sexual/racial jealousy does go both ways. Even the men who are racist are often still motivated by sexual jealousy when they say things like that (which is why they say things like 'those girls just care about big dicks'.)


Well, okay. Things may be like that where you are. (By the way, Indian-subcontinent men = small dicks).

Here, I think that it is mostly Black women who are motivated by jealousy, as Black men seem to be highly prized by a lot of ladies.

The Black/White couplings almost invariably have very cute kids.

I'm sure that it would be great fun to have a huge African appendage. But, I make do with what I have.



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08 Aug 2013, 9:58 pm

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I think you just notice women complaining about Asian women more because you're a man that likes Asian women. I've heard both women and men complaining about interracial dating.


Fair enough. I may just filter out the complaints that don't concern me.



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08 Aug 2013, 10:03 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
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Um, where I'm from I've heard white men say 'they're stealing our women!' about both black men and Muslim men from North Africa and the Indian subcontinent. That sort of sexual/racial jealousy does go both ways. Even the men who are racist are often still motivated by sexual jealousy when they say things like that (which is why they say things like 'those girls just care about big dicks'.)


Well, okay. Things may be like that where you are. (By the way, Indian-subcontinent men = small dicks).

Here, I think that it is mostly Black women who are motivated by jealousy, as Black men seem to be highly prized by a lot of ladies.

The Black/White couplings almost invariably have very cute kids.

I'm sure that it would be great fun to have a huge African appendage. But, I make do with what I have.


Indian subcontinent men generally have the same size dick as white men as far as I've seen (which admittedly isn't much) . I guess the sexual jealousy there is to do with the the stereotype of the Muslim religion making them act more dominant over women, which is what they think all women secretly crave. :roll:

Black dicks vary in size as much as white dicks do. They are larger on average, but most black men are not hung like horses, that's just in porn. I don't have any experience, but people who've seen a lot of black cocks have told me they tend to just be slightly above average.

I know just as many guys who go after black women as I do women who go after black men. Both sexes tend to do so for racial stereotype reasons, but you get the occasional person who just likes people who happen to be black.


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08 Aug 2013, 10:18 pm

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ArrantPariah wrote:
Our ladies do seem to take the "Asian menace" more personally than the gents do the preference that many ladies have for Black gents.

As far as I can tell, the problem is that certain male posters in this thread are idealizing Asian women as ultra-feminine at the expense of other races of women, and frankly that idealization is making me uncomfortable too. It's one thing to find Asian women subjectively more attractive, and that's fine with me, but putting down other types of women the way these posters are doing is offensive both to non-Asian women and the men who like them. As a white guy who likes African women more, I don't particularly enjoy reading about how Asian women are supposedly more feminine or otherwise better than all other women, implicitly including the women I personally fancy.


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I know just as many guys who go after black women as I do women who go after black men. Both sexes tend to do so for racial stereotype reasons, but you get the occasional person who just likes people who happen to be black.


Well, okay. Shall we start singing in praise of Black women, now? We've covered Black men and Asian women pretty thoroughly.

In the USA, White female/Black male couplings are much more common than the other way around. Maybe in UK, they are roughly equal.



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08 Aug 2013, 10:21 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Well, okay. Shall we start singing in praise of Black women, now? We've covered Black men and Asian women pretty thoroughly.

How about we simply respect each others' preferences instead of arguing whether certain men or women are objectively more sexually desirable or feminine/masculine along racial lines? You know, sort of how people respect each others' different favorite flavors of ice cream.



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08 Aug 2013, 10:35 pm

I like women - African, Asian, Caucasian, Middle-Eastern, East-Indian, et cetera - but, generally speaking, they don't like me.

I only need the one, anyway.



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09 Aug 2013, 4:09 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
BrandonSP wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Our ladies do seem to take the "Asian menace" more personally than the gents do the preference that many ladies have for Black gents.

As far as I can tell, the problem is that certain male posters in this thread are idealizing Asian women as ultra-feminine at the expense of other races of women, and frankly that idealization is making me uncomfortable too. It's one thing to find Asian women subjectively more attractive, and that's fine with me, but putting down other types of women the way these posters are doing is offensive both to non-Asian women and the men who like them. As a white guy who likes African women more, I don't particularly enjoy reading about how Asian women are supposedly more feminine or otherwise better than all other women, implicitly including the women I personally fancy.


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I know just as many guys who go after black women as I do women who go after black men. Both sexes tend to do so for racial stereotype reasons, but you get the occasional person who just likes people who happen to be black.


Well, okay. Shall we start singing in praise of Black women, now? We've covered Black men and Asian women pretty thoroughly.

In the USA, White female/Black male couplings are much more common than the other way around. Maybe in UK, they are roughly equal.


In the Netherlands the ratio is 1.1 to 1.0.
Almost no difference.

My mom and dad never got stares, weird looks or dumb questions. In the city where I live you see enough of these couplings.



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09 Aug 2013, 4:11 am

BrandonSP wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Well, okay. Shall we start singing in praise of Black women, now? We've covered Black men and Asian women pretty thoroughly.

How about we simply respect each others' preferences instead of arguing whether certain men or women are objectively more sexually desirable or feminine/masculine along racial lines? You know, sort of how people respect each others' different favorite flavors of ice cream.


This. What a BS about one type of woman being more feminine. Most people are incredibly average looking and unnoticable anyway, whether blond black or blue.



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09 Aug 2013, 4:26 am

Its simply a matter of perception. While asian woman nowadays have the trend to do beauty operations to become more european, because of them thinking being european = beautiful, because of them mostly knowing europeans from films and medias its the exact opposite perception on the other side. "All asian woman must be sooooo beautiful. Because the ones in the medias always are always superhot." So while on one side asian woman are told be so very attractive and feminine out of an european perspective, out of the exact same cause its trend in asia to operate eyes, eyelids and noses to a more feminine "european" optic. Even when beside some artificial models no european woman has that optics. ^^



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09 Aug 2013, 7:08 am

From what I keep seeing here, I dare to say this: Human attraction is VERY racist, even among non-racist people.


Controversial findings:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... sians.html



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09 Aug 2013, 8:25 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
From what I keep seeing here, I dare to say this: Human attraction is VERY racist, even among non-racist people.


Controversial findings:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... sians.html


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In contrast black men, he said, were more attractive than their other males.


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09 Aug 2013, 9:06 am

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In the Netherlands the ratio is 1.1 to 1.0.
Almost no difference.


In the USA

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About 15% of married Black men are married to White women. Only about one-half of that percentage of married Black women are married to White men.

About 30% of married Asian women are married to non-Asians, whereas roughly 90% of married Asian men have Asian wives.

Which would seem to support the hypothesis that, at least in the USA, Black men and Asian women are in comparatively high demand.