aside from sperm, what good are men?

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*sigh*

It may be higher but not 100% there are plenty of women who are older virgins because they haven't found guys who will have sex with them (Susan Boyle, hurtloams friends). Also only 20% of guys getting sex is a ridiculously low number source?

Or get women to chose by smell. Women can actually predict attractiveness by scent alone it's really interesting. I do have sources if anyone is interested in further reading

A nice scent in a woman is always nice

*double deep sigh*

Why not do it now, while you are presumably in good health?

I would be really interested in reading up on this, my wife always told me things would be easier if it would be socially acceptable to discretely sniff people (and it wouldn't be so common to pile up a bunch of scented cosmetics on top of each other)

Can't afford it now. Will be able to afford it when I retire.

The 80:20 thing again....

So that means if you take 5 guys at random only one will have ever had had sex with a woman?

No, I don't think so. In my experience 4-5 out of 5 will have had it.

Invert your formula and it would probably be closer to the truth.

It means that 20% of men have sex with 80% of all women. At least that's what would happen if societal rules/morals/values were to disappear; we're halfway there already, anyway. Because in nature/evolution, there is no concept of loyalty and such. There's just one thing: finding the alpha-est mate you can get. And polyamory, which is all the rage nowadays, is a giant leap toward the nature-driven 80/20 rule.

Then how do you explain animals aside from humans who mate for life? birds that literally go into a depression and kill themselves if their mate gets killed. Or a mother animal defending it's young regardless of danger to herself. Also how is polyamory all the rage? From what I observe/understand monogamous relationships are still much more common then polygamous relationships and/or open relationships.

There is no nature driven 80/20 rule....and where do you even get that only 20% of the earths male population is having sex?

https://www.facebook.com/ScienceNatureP ... 117947281/

The 80:20 thing is a bunch of bunk. I don't care what "research" says.

There are very few places in the world where the ratio of men to women is more than 1.3:1.0. Not too many with 1.2:1.0, either.

Where do you get that only 20% of males are able to easily have sex? or that no women struggle to find someone to have sex with. That is certainly not the impression I get. Some of you need to quit pulling statistics out of your asses.

Also whilst some guys just want 'easy' sex, some people male and female are interested in LTRs and don't see 'sex' as the singular end goal. Also being able to easily get sex isn't all its cut out to be anyways...what if you're a girl who wants an LTR and someone to love who loves you? Doesn't feel so great when you find all you were to guys you developed feelings for was something easy to f*** and even easier to discard.

We have it so easy we don't even have to want sex to have it pushed on us....like this male 'friend' I made in college who tried to pressure me to have sex with him, even went as far as kind of trying to physically pull me into the bedroom I certainly wasn't thinking 'isn't it awesome I can get sex so easy' I was thinking 's**t how do I get out of here before I get raped or something.' from that point forward I didn't see them as a friend but rather a threat. Not an easy thing to deal with especially when I knew no one would believe me if I said anything so my only real option was to try to discreetly avoid him.


I mean look I get guys here and even outside of here struggle to find sexual partners and relationships, I don't mean to come off like I don't care about that or am unaware. But clearly it's false that 100% of women do not struggle in the sex/relationship department...every person is going to have their individual struggles a typical female may have different struggles than a typical male but different, not particularly easier. All the (insert group) has it easier than (insert group) type discussion does is go round and round in circles making both sides defensive...not very conductive to solutions or coming to any sorts of understanding about different struggles.

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I can picture that women's smelling men's here and there would get men aroused.

The "mating for life" phenomenon among swans, geese, and such is partially a myth.

Males compete by building the best nest to attract the female. She, in turn, first finds a male with the best-constructed nest. Once she's fully admitted into the nest and ready to have her brood, she shops around for best genes, much like mammal females do. Don't know what the bird criteria for best genes are, but the alpha male concept presumably would still apply. In the process, she mates with the male she finds most attractive, usually not the nest-builder. In the end, the baby birds turn out to be bastards, raised by the nest-builder male. I saw this on a nature show somewhere; I think it was the Animal Planet.

"Swan Swanson, when it comes to 1-week old Swan Jr., you are NOT the father!" (signed, Maury Povich)

There is no such thing as "feelings". It's just biological attraction to good genes (for women) or to sex (for men). But since we humans are a despicable, self-righteous species, we'd never admit that to ourselves. So we came up with the notion of "feelings" or "love" to make that more socially acceptable. In your case, the guy who dumped you had strong, powerful alpha male genes, which you were very much attracted to (or "developed feelings for"). So undoubtedly, it was sad for you to lose him. But conversely, because he's an alpha male, he's able to cycle through girl after girl. Sad and unfair as it may sound, it's all mostly subconscious.

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