15 Sep 2017, 3:05 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
And that's why women struggle with accountability. You dropped the cup, it doesn't matter if it was an accident you dropped the cup. lol
Ok fine its both peoples fault...the startler and the startled. Both should be accountable...they should both kneel down on the ground by the pieces and tearfully apologize to each other for causing the accident.
No this isn't how the real world works. This isn't how life works holy s**t. You dropped the cup its your fault. If the man dropped the cup its HIS fault.
Who has been so mean in your life that they've shouted at you for accidentally dropping a cup? Most people don't react like that. Sweetleaf is living in the real world.
The difference is that you and Sweetleaf are responding more like you would in reality, whereas Silverbolt is approaching it like he's looking to assign blame/liability even if that wouldn't be how any pair of people cohabiting in the real world would, at least if they intend on continuing to cohabit.
No. What is this I don't even. This has nothing to do with being a couple at all. Just because you are a couple doesn't mean you didn't drop the cup.
Look IF YOU drop the cup, you say. I dropped the CUP. I'm sorry it is MY fault. The other person then can either be like it's ok I don't care, or you can work out how a new one will be purchased.
The end result which being a couple aka people who are in a working relationship coming to a solution about the cup being dropped isn't the issue. The issue is what the initial response is to this problem.
It should be I dropped the cup. Not you started me holy s**t, I dropped the cup because you startled me, how are we going to deal with this.
It's I dropped the cup. Where do we go from here?
Assigning blame is pointless when it's self-evident to both parties who witnessed what occurred. I'd just get a broom instead of having a meltdown over assigning blame.
This has jack s**t to do with blame. This has to do with accountability for what has taken place.
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15 Sep 2017, 3:15 pm
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
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New thread title: Why are women so triggered by broken crockery?
I'm really done now. I have to go and empty the washing machine and tidy up the kitchen.
thank you for amusing me on a boring Friday evening.
I'm really done now. I have to go and empty the washing machine and tidy up the kitchen.
thank you for amusing me on a boring Friday evening.
And this, is why we can't grow as people and deal with real situations like this. As soon as a real question gets asked that forces you to self evaluate how you view yourself, and the world. All the response becomes is first the answer you believe, then when the person asks you to reevaluate you belittle, poke fun at, and make little of the situation. This question is one of the best questions you can ask if you are looking for a woman/partner with a good head on their shoulder. It literally defines what kind of person you are, also the bad part about it is men with game/red pill morals/ dangerous men will typically answer it with the chivalry answer sadly.
Altho this has nothing to do with chivalry anyway.
I wasn't poking fun. I'm interested in psychology and influences and I really am wondering why you would think people would react they way you think they would in your analogy. I genuinely want to know if you have been in a situation like this where you've done something accidental and a women has gone mental at you and blamed you for something that wasn't your fault. It would make this whole conversation make more sense.
Just because someone can't see the point you are making doesn't mean that they haven't thought about your question. I find aspies frustrating to talk to some times because they have ideas that they hold on to like a dog with a bone and won't broaden out the conversation. It just goes round and round with them trying to make you see things the way they do and if you don't then they think you are deluded or stupid.
You have to forgive me for having a sense of humour.
edit - why can't I post gifs
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15 Sep 2017, 3:22 pm
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No idea. Why can't you?
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15 Sep 2017, 3:22 pm
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
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There are an absolute ton of posts on this forum from men blaming women for how they behave. This forum in itself counters your hypothesis.
Stop being logical and reasonable. We're not here to criticize men or their actions or their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - if you try expect to hear cries of misandry. We're here to criticize women, their actions and their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - in broad generalizations that assume they're all the same nonetheless - but how dare anyone suggest there's misogyny afoot.
I'm not saying women CANNOT take responsibility for their actions nor am I putting men on some giant pedstal.
All I'm doing is making a point in how we think differently and it causes this clash that women don't understand and few men do.
You dropped the cup if you dropped the cup. That's how men typically will answer this question.
He startled me, it's no ones fault, its his fault for startling me, I can't control startling, etc. These are every answer each girl I've asked online or in real life have given me and more. I think out of as many times I've asked this question which is a s**t ton I have had two girls say. "I f****d up I dropped the cup." One even said my bad was her response. Those two I find it refreshing to talk to because we can have real discussions about stuff like dating/men etc.
The males typical response doesn't answer the entire question of who's fault it is in that case, and none of those other responses deny that the person who dropped the cup dropped it.
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15 Sep 2017, 3:23 pm
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's cup war.
Jeez man this kinda stuff just idk excites me. This is like I'm playing league as a diamond smurf with bronze players screaming about "their team holding them back." Accountability is an amazing concept.
It's more like you're level one and the level 10s are smacking you around for their own amusement like a ball of yarn being swatted about by cats.
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15 Sep 2017, 3:29 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
:?
Stop being logical and reasonable. We're not here to criticize men or their actions or their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - if you try expect to hear cries of misandry. We're here to criticize women, their actions and their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - in broad generalizations that assume they're all the same nonetheless - but how dare anyone suggest there's misogyny afoot.
I'm not saying women CANNOT take responsibility for their actions nor am I putting men on some giant pedstal.
All I'm doing is making a point in how we think differently and it causes this clash that women don't understand and few men do.
You dropped the cup if you dropped the cup. That's how men typically will answer this question.
He startled me, it's no ones fault, its his fault for startling me, I can't control startling, etc. These are every answer each girl I've asked online or in real life have given me and more. I think out of as many times I've asked this question which is a s**t ton I have had two girls say. "I f****d up I dropped the cup." One even said my bad was her response. Those two I find it refreshing to talk to because we can have real discussions about stuff like dating/men etc.
The males typical response doesn't answer the entire question of who's fault it is in that case, and none of those other responses deny that the person who dropped the cup dropped it.
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
There are an absolute ton of posts on this forum from men blaming women for how they behave. This forum in itself counters your hypothesis.
Stop being logical and reasonable. We're not here to criticize men or their actions or their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - if you try expect to hear cries of misandry. We're here to criticize women, their actions and their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - in broad generalizations that assume they're all the same nonetheless - but how dare anyone suggest there's misogyny afoot.
I'm not saying women CANNOT take responsibility for their actions nor am I putting men on some giant pedstal.
All I'm doing is making a point in how we think differently and it causes this clash that women don't understand and few men do.
You dropped the cup if you dropped the cup. That's how men typically will answer this question.
He startled me, it's no ones fault, its his fault for startling me, I can't control startling, etc. These are every answer each girl I've asked online or in real life have given me and more. I think out of as many times I've asked this question which is a s**t ton I have had two girls say. "I f****d up I dropped the cup." One even said my bad was her response. Those two I find it refreshing to talk to because we can have real discussions about stuff like dating/men etc.
The males typical response doesn't answer the entire question of who's fault it is in that case, and none of those other responses deny that the person who dropped the cup dropped it.
In order to have a better world where we grow, where people learn from their mistakes carefully analyze what they do. The cup is their fault for dropping it. The cup should be your fault. You should be held accountable. Now if the other party due to circumstances decides to not hold you accountable or come up with a resolution that doesn't hold you totally accountable so be it. But you dropped the cup.
This can translate to other situations easily. But the cup is the least graphic and simplest one.
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