Women asking guys out?
A point I have tried to make a number of times also, but perhaps never with a useful analogy. I like it.
There are some men in this forum who have indicated they would be happy with any woman, with any type of interest, etc. I get it, they want *something*. But for a man to say women are luckier to get this *something*, just because that man would be happy with it, makes little sense.
Is each individual getting their individual wants met - that is the more important thing to explore, IMO. (And of course, what might be the best solution for each individual, if they're not.)
So finding 1000 apples of varying qualities while you're in the desert with no food, from which few may be edible while others are not and probably a handle of them may be perfect ...... is worse than finding 0 apple in the desert.
And now imagine you're a cat. Apples are no food for you.
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A point I have tried to make a number of times also, but perhaps never with a useful analogy. I like it.
There are some men in this forum who have indicated they would be happy with any woman, with any type of interest, etc. I get it, they want *something*. But for a man to say women are luckier to get this *something*, just because that man would be happy with it, makes little sense.
Is each individual getting their individual wants met - that is the more important thing to explore, IMO. (And of course, what might be the best solution for each individual, if they're not.)
So finding 1000 apples of varying qualities while you're in the desert with no food, from which few may be edible while others are not and probably a handle of them may be perfect ...... is worse than finding 0 apple in the desert.
Ahhh the logic that you two have.
yellowtamarin , XFG's post would make sense if ALL guys on dating site are horrible - but you know that it's not the case, there's always a better probability to find what you want among any number, than among null. It's just mathematical.
I'm not sure you read my post properly, because if you compare mine and yours you can clearly see you've either misinterpreted or chosen to skip parts.
See where I said that I get that these men want *something* (any type of apple at all)? That that is what would make them happy. But that same thing isn't what makes everyone happy.
No, setting up my dating profile so that I get lots of messages does not open it up for a few "perfect" people to get in touch with me or respond to me. It sets it up to exclude them. They are not interested in the me I present when I do it that way. Just like if I walk around wearing a heap of makeup or with Botox lips. I'm not bagging makeup and Botox, I'm saying that it's a turn-off for the type of person I want to date.
And for me, dating someone just "edible" is worse than dating nobody at all. So what you are calling 'surviving in the desert' is, for me, poisoning myself a little. Like drinking sea water - it's best to not drink at all even if that's the only water available.
So to reiterate - people want, even need, different things. Telling someone they are lucky to have things that you want, but they don't want, is not a useful complaint.
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A point I have tried to make a number of times also, but perhaps never with a useful analogy. I like it.
There are some men in this forum who have indicated they would be happy with any woman, with any type of interest, etc. I get it, they want *something*. But for a man to say women are luckier to get this *something*, just because that man would be happy with it, makes little sense.
Is each individual getting their individual wants met - that is the more important thing to explore, IMO. (And of course, what might be the best solution for each individual, if they're not.)
So finding 1000 apples of varying qualities while you're in the desert with no food, from which few may be edible while others are not and probably a handle of them may be perfect ...... is worse than finding 0 apple in the desert.
And now imagine you're a cat. Apples are no food for you.
“there's always a better probability to find what you want among any number, than among null. It's just mathematical” / end of discussion.
A point I have tried to make a number of times also, but perhaps never with a useful analogy. I like it.
There are some men in this forum who have indicated they would be happy with any woman, with any type of interest, etc. I get it, they want *something*. But for a man to say women are luckier to get this *something*, just because that man would be happy with it, makes little sense.
Is each individual getting their individual wants met - that is the more important thing to explore, IMO. (And of course, what might be the best solution for each individual, if they're not.)
So finding 1000 apples of varying qualities while you're in the desert with no food, from which few may be edible while others are not and probably a handle of them may be perfect ...... is worse than finding 0 apple in the desert.
And now imagine you're a cat. Apples are no food for you.
“there's always a better probability to find what you want among any number, than among null. It's just mathematical” / end of discussion.
Men aren't women, women aren't men.
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See where I said that I get that these men want *something* (any type of apple at all)? That that is what would make them happy. But that same thing isn't what makes everyone happy.
No, setting up my dating profile so that I get lots of messages does not open it up for a few "perfect" people to get in touch with me or respond to me. It sets it up to exclude them. They are not interested in the me I present when I do it that way. Just like if I walk around wearing a heap of makeup or with Botox lips. I'm not bagging makeup and Botox, I'm saying that it's a turn-off for the type of person I want to date.
And for me, dating someone just "edible" is worse than dating nobody at all. So what you are calling 'surviving in the desert' is, for me, poisoning myself a little. Like drinking sea water - it's best to not drink at all even if that's the only water available.
So to reiterate - people want, even need, different things. Telling someone they are lucky to have things that you want, but they don't want, is not a useful complaint.
A few years ago, I was in Las Vegas on a military training exercise.
A few of my buddies and I decided to go out on the strip, and we were joined by some other people from different squadrons. There was this one guy who kept kissing me, hanging on me, and throwing his arm around me. Me, not being very practiced at fending off male attention (a fact I suspect he sensed), just tried to stay away from him, but the more I attempted to avoid him, the more he continued. Finally, at the end of the night, I caught a cab back to my hotel room, and went to bed. About two hours later, I heard the door open, and my roommate's voice.
She brought the same guy back to our room.
My point: the typical Wrong Planet guy would read my experience and reply, "So what? If a woman had done that to me, I'd feel FLATTERED and VALIDATED that she was paying attention to me! You girls have it SSOOO easy!"
The Logic being, of course, that since he, as a man, would've enjoyed it, I, as a woman, should've too. Unfortunately, at this point, I doubt there will ever being a shortage of men on here who are going to wag their finger in female's faces, and lecture us about our life experience as well as how we're supposed to feel about them.
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A point I have tried to make a number of times also, but perhaps never with a useful analogy. I like it.
There are some men in this forum who have indicated they would be happy with any woman, with any type of interest, etc. I get it, they want *something*. But for a man to say women are luckier to get this *something*, just because that man would be happy with it, makes little sense.
Is each individual getting their individual wants met - that is the more important thing to explore, IMO. (And of course, what might be the best solution for each individual, if they're not.)
So finding 1000 apples of varying qualities while you're in the desert with no food, from which few may be edible while others are not and probably a handle of them may be perfect ...... is worse than finding 0 apple in the desert.
And now imagine you're a cat. Apples are no food for you.
“there's always a better probability to find what you want among any number, than among null. It's just mathematical” / end of discussion.
Men aren't women, women aren't men.
/thread
Cats aren’t dogs, dogs aren’t cats.
/L&D
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No, the typical wp guys would say this is a sexual assault.
Stop putting stuff in their mouths.
No, the typical wp guys would say this is a sexual assault.
Stop putting stuff in their mouths.
No, many of them had already said similar things.
I've been here too long to been mislead by bullsh_t.
The sentiment, "Women should regard the world exactly like men," is quite strong.
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No, the typical wp guys would say this is a sexual assault.
Stop putting stuff in their mouths.
No, many of them had already said similar things.
I've been here too long to been mislead by bullsh_t.
The sentiment, "Women should regard the world exactly like men," is quite strong.
Ok, whatever makes you happy.
No, the typical wp guys would say this is a sexual assault.
Stop putting stuff in their mouths.
No, many of them had already said similar things.
I've been here too long to been mislead by bullsh_t.
The sentiment, "Women should regard the world exactly like men," is quite strong.
Ok, whatever makes you happy.
The truth always makes me happy.
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My hypothesis is that for those who have standards, they should do things to attract the right people, not do things to simply attract more people. Attracting "more women" doesn't necessarily put the right woman in that mix.
Is it really "more choice" that you want, or is it the right woman that you want? What if you were able to attract her and only her? You have no choice in that scenario, just her, so is that a bad outcome?
Wow blown off, over looked twice in the same thread! The last few post are saying the same thing i said in my previous post. Wow!
Meanwhile alot of the posts and alot of this bickering makes me wonder ... is this the reason im still single.
Bickering, gender blaming ....
Is this holding us back? Thick headedness. Xfilesgeek is one on a crusade defending against 3.
Someone take responsibility or make a change !
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My hypothesis is that for those who have standards, they should do things to attract the right people, not do things to simply attract more people. Attracting "more women" doesn't necessarily put the right woman in that mix.
Is it really "more choice" that you want, or is it the right woman that you want? What if you were able to attract her and only her? You have no choice in that scenario, just her, so is that a bad outcome?
I guess that's not a bad outcome but I'm not sure how to attract the right kind of woman. So far, all of my efforts at self-improvement have only served to increase the quantity of women I attract but not the quality.
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My hypothesis is that for those who have standards, they should do things to attract the right people, not do things to simply attract more people. Attracting "more women" doesn't necessarily put the right woman in that mix.
Is it really "more choice" that you want, or is it the right woman that you want? What if you were able to attract her and only her? You have no choice in that scenario, just her, so is that a bad outcome?
I guess that's not a bad outcome but I'm not sure how to attract the right kind of woman. So far, all of my efforts at self-improvement have only served to increase the quantity of women I attract but not the quality.
I wouldnt use the word quality when describing women. Try "type of women". Or odds are youll be ostracized by women and the room your standing in. Ive seen a friend socked in the shoulder for less. Respect n good word usage shows maturity so again type not quality.
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My hypothesis is that for those who have standards, they should do things to attract the right people, not do things to simply attract more people. Attracting "more women" doesn't necessarily put the right woman in that mix.
Is it really "more choice" that you want, or is it the right woman that you want? What if you were able to attract her and only her? You have no choice in that scenario, just her, so is that a bad outcome?
If you attract no one, then your goal is to attract someone. Bad outcome is attracting nobody, because nobody is certainly not the ideal partner. Trust me. I've spent years with her!
