Women, Men, Tell us What You Need The Other Sex To Know!.

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I may seem robotic but I'm actually not. We've all been typecasting shy dudes this way for ages.

You could be onto something, clearly they have manly hips. /S

Just because we wont chase, doesn't necessarily mean we lack interest. Some of us lack the self confidence to endure and weather the humiliation of rejection.

Stuff I wish a lot of women knew:

- Any muscular, shredded man you see built the muscle in a gym, together with a strict diet. He probably isn't a lumberjack, a firefighter or a policeman

- Most men hate drama

- Men love it when women make the first move. If you get rejected once, it's not because men are intimidated by women who do the chasing

- Men often choose not to talk about feelings because society has told us not to

- I will never know how it feels to give birth, you will never know how it feels to be kicked in the balls

- Don't gossip about female aquaintances if you're no better yourself

- That male co-worker who always wants to hang around you at work and always messages you on Facebook isn't looking for a female best friend

- Men are not intimidated by opinionated women or career women

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I'd rather make the "first move."

Also sometimes we never considered a realtionship with the women till she lets us know she's interested & then we may be totally open to it. That's what happend with my 1st girlfriend. We were good online friends & I didn't have much interest in romantic relationships till she told me she liked me. I then realized I liked her, not at 1st but after talking about it with some of our friend group.


I don't mind opinionated women but I'm not attracted to career women & don't think we'd be compatible. I'm dependent in various ways & LOVE spending time with my partner. A career woman would resent me & I'd be upset that I wouldn't spend enough time with her. I'm fine with a woman having a job but I'd want her to have a life with me to instead of me just filling her void when she's not at work. I want to spend more time with her than us just sleeping together & spending time together when she takes her required paid vacations.

That stuff you think we want? It's not really important. Just be a good guy.

Could we have a definition of a good guy everyone can agree on? Once upon a time I thought I knew what that was, not sure I know anymore. I feel like being a gentleman is no longer respectful, maybe it never was. Much of the way I was taught how to honor a woman is no longer viable?

No. That's the beauty of it.
"A person you have good time with" would be my most general guess. This would be definitely personal.

Don’t stop being a gentleman. Whatever you do.....

I may ask it because of language/cultural barrier but... could you clarify what you mean by "gentleman"?

A man who treats a lady decently. Is classy. Doesn’t act stupidly macho. Opens doors for ladies. Gives her flowers sometimes, as a surprise. Is attentive to her in the bedroom. Listens to her problems. Doesn’t “kiss and tell.”

Believes in gender equality. Doesn’t talk down to a lady. Is not condescending to her. Acts like a friend.

A “gentleman” is the polite term for a male person.

Being a gentleman isn't enough. Just being polite and knowing that it's mannerly to hold a door open for a woman is just basic stuff.

Actually being there is what matters. Actually wanting to spend time with her and actually caring is what matters and showing that you care.

Any sociopath can fake good manners. It's what's underneath that is important.

I think it was funny when my oldest niece went to go through a door and she complained this older man was being sexist towards her because he didn't hold the door open for her. Now he was a pensioner and she was around 15 at the time. She had been taught in school that this was classed as being sexist because he was a man. My mum quickly told her "If you want real equality you open your own doors for yourself". She seemed shocked. My mum had to explain to her what equality meant, because her school had a very warped view on their teachings on the subject.

I was just defining "gentleman" as sort of an illustration for Magz.

Obviously, it takes much more than superficial "gentlemanly" manners.

I didn't even say "gentleman" in my post. I said be a good guy. There's a vast difference in that. Magz understood best by saying that a "good guy" is different to everyone. In my opinion a good guy isn't someone who holds the door, but rather someone who is stalwart and dependable, with integrity of character and consistent values. I didn't reply because this is not meant to be a discussion thread, and we were asked not to reply to each other, but I can see a "gentleman" debate beginning and that wasn't my intent.

Blackicmenace asked if it meant "honouring a woman". It's more than that. It's honouring all people, including yourself. Have integrity and be reliable as an ethical person ... not just within your relationships.

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