Nice Guys suck...

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I think the type of guy that the writers of these articles are really taking aim at are the passive/aggressive and masochists, and I certainly don't condone those kinds of guys or what they do. My father was both of these and psychologically tormented my mother for over twenty years.

The nice guys that she describes are the most extreme examples. Most nice guys are not hopeless fools who walk around like zombies, drowning in their own self-pity. Most are just under-confident because they aren't blessed with as many attractable qualities as other men (looks, money, social status, etc.), and thus don’t have the exposure or expertise to really blow away a woman at first contact.

There are plenty of so-called nice guys that are genuinely good men; who only want to please their partner and make them feel loved and appreciated, and not hiding any skeletons in their closet. They are probably the only type of guy that can give a woman the respect that she requires and deserves all the time not just every now and then like the jerks. I'm guessing that those writers haven’t met any of these, or any half-decent man in their lives.

I think they’re just cynics, and must have been in a terrible string of bad relationships to have come to the conclusion that the best a woman can get is a jerk; someone who's absorbed in themselves, doesn't commit emotionally to her, and forgets to consider her feelings half the time. I pity them.

I'm going to write a thread on the love/hate thing.

I think your wrong if you don't think men are attracted to mean girls, just like I've know girls openly admit to being attracted 'bastards'.

At any rate, what do those articles on "Heartless b*****s" have to do with Aspergers Syndrome?.

Is there some correlation between "nice guys" and Aspergers?

Or are the articles only referring to NT "Nice guys"?

I tend to think that I am more confused when it comes to contact with women than actually self-absorbed and insecure or un-confident or passive/aggressive or self-pitying or whatever turns the girls off (crying, fawning, pedestal-izing, etc etc)......

Perhaps the equality consists in the fact that both "nice guys " and "Asperger guys" don't have IT, whatever "it" is, but Asperger guys have the added challenge of being confused as to what this "it" is, and therefore can't comprehend what they should be doing or acting to "get" (pardon the word "get" here) the woman....

I tend to think this thread has a tinge of bitterness attached to it that and seeking approval. It takes one to no one

There is quite a bit of male and female bashing going on respectively on this forum.

As you rightly pointed out it is very difficult to put this sort of advice into practice.

a. We take things literally and NTs are far from that.
b. We don't actually have any knowledge of the behaviour of the authors in practice.
c. Obviously it is not specifically aimed at us. So who’s to say it applies?

Well, of course I might be attracted to a bastard's looks or initial approach. But as soon as the bastard behaviour starts, I'm gone so fast I leave a vapour trail.

I was just saying that I personally don't bother with the mean girls anymore in my last post. I wasn't tryng to speak on behalf of the entire male population.

Not quite sure...girls do seem to love guys who treat them like dirt, are worthless, and act like a gangster.

Haha, well whatever. Somebody could explain to me someday although I don't think I'd understand. Personally, girls that act like their princesses and that they should get whatever they want are real turns offs. It's really disappointing. There is no hate and love connection, it's just disgust and lust. That's it.