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26 Oct 2012, 1:18 pm

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I find it funny that the guy who can only apparently keep women interested long enough for a one night stand is telling me I don't know how to talk to women. Clearly I don't, that's why I've been living with one for over two years. it's why I get hugs and kisses from her, and she tells me she loves me every day. And I'm sure it's the reason we had some amazing sex two nights ago(edit: and about 5 minutes ago. My dick is still wet right now because I clearly have no idea how to talk to women)...

Please, oh master of the female brain, TEACH ME TO TALK TO WOMEN!! ! For I am but a lowly serf in dire need of your assistance...

LOL, what a joke.


That doesn't prove anything since many women are in abusive or detrimental relationships, your decision to generalize and attack women goes to show that you have a bad attitude towards them. You have assimilated to point of making negativity and sweeping generalizations. If you are going to throw your toys out the pram every time someone disagrees with you or doesn't show you constant agreement or positivity, you need to stay out of these type of debates because there are a lot of strong women on these forums that you can't handle.

I can tell you one thing about you, you need to open your mind and learn to appreciate people for their hearts instead of having any type of gender, race or religious bias based on rigid stereotypes.



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26 Oct 2012, 1:23 pm

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I'm not going to resort to school boy or 4chan antics but I'm sure he thinks I made that statement literally and has taken it rather personally. In that case, I think he is the one who needs to learn how to read before jumping to conclusions and calling other people morons.


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Ah throwing your toys out of the pram again? You need to learn to speak to women properly, you think that is appropriate language to use? How old are you because you really do sound like a thirteen year old, I would love to teach you some manners.

Now jog on and do one, come back when you learn how to speak to people properly.


Atleast if you're going to make such a bold callout have something to say about it


I have addressed what I need to address and the women of this forum are now aware of his negative and passive aggressive attitude towards them.



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26 Oct 2012, 1:31 pm

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I have addressed what I need to address and the women of this forum are now aware of his negative attitude towards them.

Negative attitudes towards them? Hmm, ive heard that before. With quotes like
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''A b***h. I'm not blaming you for being that way. The blame should be put on the white knights who have catered to your every want your entire life.''

Just to name a few. Ohh yes, that did just happen. That russian model you tried negging into bed made her entire profile a warning against you.
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http://www.okcupid.com/profile/lilleegi ... le_similar
and to see who zonemodel is
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/zonemode ... e_visitors

Ohh please wolfheart, like ive said nobody here is falling for your BS words anymore. If they ever did. But worse than that is claiming to be the most feminist guy ever with such a closet



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26 Oct 2012, 1:37 pm

Let's stop with the beatdowns please? 8O


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26 Oct 2012, 1:38 pm

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Let's stop with the beatdowns please? 8O

no beatdown. just showing what he says when hes not trying to gain supporters



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26 Oct 2012, 1:48 pm

Okcupid sounds like such a fun fun place... TO AVOID! :twisted:



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26 Oct 2012, 1:51 pm

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But worse than that is claiming to be the most feminist guy ever with such a closet


If I was you, I would stand up for my mate or friend if someone called them a moron regardless of sex, race or gender but you are so obsessed, you forgot your own principles. I will be honest in saying that I do not stand for intolerance or have the patience for people who think they are better than others simply because of money.

Money is no indicator of character since they are inherited or stolen, what really matters to me is something people have worked to achieve and something that is fair and yes, she did anger me to an extent but I didn't stoop to her level, I simply expressed how I felt. Certain things can only be obtained from sweat, pain, devotion and hard work and those are the things that are valued most.



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26 Oct 2012, 2:40 pm

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But worse than that is claiming to be the most feminist guy ever with such a closet


If I was you, I would stand up for my mate or friend if someone called them a moron regardless of sex, race or gender but you are so obsessed, you forgot your own principles. I will be honest in saying that I do not stand for intolerance or have the patience for people who think they are better than others simply because of money.

Money is no indicator of character since they are inherited or stolen, what really matters to me is something people have worked to achieve and something that is fair and yes, she did anger me to an extent but I didn't stoop to her level, I simply expressed how I felt. Certain things can only be obtained from sweat, pain, devotion and hard work and those are the things that are valued most.


You mean my friend you're trying to befriend to get at me with? Ive noticed shes quite capable enough of having her own discussions. You're quite the case aren't you. But we can all now see in public what you really are and what you really do. Not just what you claim. Though good try at turning this to me, sadly you're the star of this show

Didn't stoop to her level? Lol. I think it's fair to say she didn't stoop to yours. Hell, you ended up turning to be just another white knight that you criticized so much



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26 Oct 2012, 2:46 pm

Ok, this is something I do have to comment on... Stad, comparing your experiences with those of a rape victim is NOT APPROPRIATE AT ALL. I am saying this as a rape victim. Or is that something you will start making fun of or mock as well?(Based on your writings on this thread I would not be surprised anymore.)

And since you don't seem to be reading your own posts let me quote a few:

"along comes some stupid feminist to b***h and complain(which is exactly what you've done)" This phrase insults me and feminists in general.

"Are you feminists not content unless you're bitching about SOMETHING" This phrase insults me and feminists in general.

"And what's so hard to understand about me being sick of feminists bitching everytime I say anything TRUE about them?" This phrase insults me and feminists in general.

And that is only a couple from the last post. Yet you still claim you have never said such things. That shows lack of responsibility.

You have rarely used the term "feminists I have met", instead you use "feminists" a lot which refers to feminists in general. That is not appropriate and it is insulting for anyone who uses the term feminist of themselves. I have as much right to defend my views as you do, but your aggressiveness is still completely incomprehensible to me.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread so far to have claimed that "bad apples" don't exist. I'm not sure what exactly you are fighting for. I also take it as granted that any for of abuse or domestic violence is not tolerable at all, no matter of the sexes. It's a pity that you have had bad experiences, but you have to keep in mind that so has anyone else in some front (especially in this site) and there's no use becoming bitter. I already revealed something personal of my life, but my experiences don't mean I would hate or blame all men. I've met many incredible men as well, and I have a couple in my very close circle of friends.

I wouldn't have anything against a word like "equalist", but feminism was born for a reason and it still has it's original meaning for numerous people around the globe. This might be a cultural thing as well... I don't know about American feminists, but in Finland the term doesn't seem to have merely the same bad connotation.

Also, if it matters that much to you I said in that phrase that an act you performed was stupid and immature, not you, which was a truthful observation. (I take it that you don't have exclusive rights to truth). Clever people can act stupid as well, keep that in mind. I much rather make friends than foes, personally. I don't hold grudges towards you, but I do want you to know that you have deeply insulted me with a lot of your comments in this thread and it has reminded me why I left Wrong Planet in the first place. I probably will again, actually.


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26 Oct 2012, 2:54 pm

And would some people here let Wolfheart be already...

He has apologized his past behaviour on the forum and has acted far more properly on this thread than certain others.


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26 Oct 2012, 3:16 pm

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And would some people here let Wolfheart be already...

He has apologized his past behaviour on the forum and has acted far more properly on this thread than certain others.

Anyone can say I'm sorry, not everyone actually does something about it. I was very lenient on him until I saw the exact same things again. Hes plenty welcome to actually try to change his actions.



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26 Oct 2012, 9:36 pm

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I find it funny that the guy who can only apparently keep women interested long enough for a one night stand is telling me I don't know how to talk to women. Clearly I don't, that's why I've been living with one for over two years. it's why I get hugs and kisses from her, and she tells me she loves me every day. And I'm sure it's the reason we had some amazing sex two nights ago(edit: and about 5 minutes ago. My dick is still wet right now because I clearly have no idea how to talk to women)...

Please, oh master of the female brain, TEACH ME TO TALK TO WOMEN!! ! For I am but a lowly serf in dire need of your assistance...

LOL, what a joke.


Chest-beating aside, what does having a sexually-willing live-in gf really have to do with the implication that you're reactionary and hostile to women? Won't there always be exceptions, both in people's treatment of a different class, and the general standards people have for relationships?


I'm not going to resort to school boy or 4chan antics but I'm sure he thinks I made that statement literally and has taken it rather personally. In that case, I think he is the one who needs to learn how to read before jumping to conclusions and calling other people morons.


Uh... no, it's called... you said some BS, so I called you out on it because that's what I do. The fact that you got a response from me isn't indicative that you struck a nerve, but as before, you're welcome to think whatever you wish.



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26 Oct 2012, 9:38 pm

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I find it funny that the guy who can only apparently keep women interested long enough for a one night stand is telling me I don't know how to talk to women. Clearly I don't, that's why I've been living with one for over two years. it's why I get hugs and kisses from her, and she tells me she loves me every day. And I'm sure it's the reason we had some amazing sex two nights ago(edit: and about 5 minutes ago. My dick is still wet right now because I clearly have no idea how to talk to women)...

Please, oh master of the female brain, TEACH ME TO TALK TO WOMEN!! ! For I am but a lowly serf in dire need of your assistance...

LOL, what a joke.


Chest-beating aside, what does having a sexually-willing live-in gf really have to do with the implication that you're reactionary and hostile to women? Won't there always be exceptions, both in people's treatment of a different class, and the general standards people have for relationships?



Uh... Let's see here... If I was hostile toward my girlfriend, we wouldn't be together, maybe? Also, what does the way I talk to moronic militant feminazis have to do with the way I treat my girlfriend? She doesn't try to tell me I'm evil for being a man or suggest that I'm part of some special secret man club, so I have no reason to talk to her the way I do to you. She also doesn't have penis envy...

"chest beating..." Pointing out that someone's presumptions are wrong is "chest beating" now...

She doesn't live with me, I live with her... meaning this is HER house, and I'm here living with her. She makes more money than I do, so it's not like she needs me to support her. And I'm sure as hell not manipulative or any good at manipulating people, or else you wouldn't be sitting here accusing me of being a wife beater or a sexist. I'd have just manipulated you into thinking I'm some amazing person. So, considering those facts along with the fact that I have a girlfriend who has been around for nearly 3 yeas, who shows me affection and has sex with me on a regular basis, is a fairly good indication that I know how to talk to women, which happens to be the opposite of what wolfheart suggested. I only mentioned any of that as a direct response to wolfheart claiming I need to learn how to talk to women. If I would have just made a thread going "haha, I get laid regularly, and you guys are all losers," well then you might have a reason to call it "chest beating." Also, I'm not the one who threatened to "teach" someone to talk to women. I'm simply calling him out on his BS. If you were to pay close attention to the posts I make on wrong planet, you would know that I don't consider getting laid or getting laid by more women than another guy any sort of accomplishment. I'm mentioning it as proof that wolfheart is wrong, not to brag.



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26 Oct 2012, 9:43 pm

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Uh... Let's see here... If I was hostile toward my girlfriend, we wouldn't be together, maybe? Also, what does the way I talk to moronic militant feminazis have to do with the way I treat my girlfriend? She doesn't try to tell me I'm evil for being a man or suggest that I'm part of some special secret man club, so I have no reason to talk to her the way I do to you. She also doesn't have penis envy...


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26 Oct 2012, 9:48 pm

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Ok, this is something I do have to comment on... Stad, comparing your experiences with those of a rape victim is NOT APPROPRIATE AT ALL. I am saying this as a rape victim. Or is that something you will start making fun of or mock as well?(Based on your writings on this thread I would not be surprised anymore.)

And since you don't seem to be reading your own posts let me quote a few:

"along comes some stupid feminist to b***h and complain(which is exactly what you've done)" This phrase insults me and feminists in general.

I say this because it's exactly what happens everytime, as you and valentinewiggin have proved more than once... Also, i don't care if you're insulted by the truth.

"Are you feminists not content unless you're bitching about SOMETHING" This phrase insults me and feminists in general.

That was a QUESTION. I will say this again. Questions are NOT statements. Also, I ask the QUESTION because I constantly see feminists BITCHING about everything... Again, I don't care if you're offended by truth. That's your own problem.

"And what's so hard to understand about me being sick of feminists bitching everytime I say anything TRUE about them?" This phrase insults me and feminists in general.

see above: I don't care if people are offended by truth.


You have rarely used the term "feminists I have met", instead you use "feminists" a lot which refers to feminists in general. That is not appropriate and it is insulting for anyone who uses the term feminist of themselves. I have as much right to defend my views as you do, but your aggressiveness is still completely incomprehensible to me.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread so far to have claimed that "bad apples" don't exist. I'm not sure what exactly you are fighting for. I also take it as granted that any for of abuse or domestic violence is not tolerable at all, no matter of the sexes. It's a pity that you have had bad experiences, but you have to keep in mind that so has anyone else in some front (especially in this site) and there's no use becoming bitter. I already revealed something personal of my life, but my experiences don't mean I would hate or blame all men. I've met many incredible men as well, and I have a couple in my very close circle of friends.

I wouldn't have anything against a word like "equalist", but feminism was born for a reason and it still has it's original meaning for numerous people around the globe. This might be a cultural thing as well... I don't know about American feminists, but in Finland the term doesn't seem to have merely the same bad connotation.

Also, if it matters that much to you I said in that phrase that an act you performed was stupid and immature, not you, which was a truthful observation. (I take it that you don't have exclusive rights to truth). Clever people can act stupid as well, keep that in mind. I much rather make friends than foes, personally. I don't hold grudges towards you, but I do want you to know that you have deeply insulted me with a lot of your comments in this thread and it has reminded me why I left Wrong Planet in the first place. I probably will again, actually.


Do you know WHY I don't say "feminists I have met(I HAVE made this distinction when you jumped down my throat, by the way)?" It's because EVERY person I've ever met who calls herself a feminist shows absolutely NO sign of actually being for equality or giving a s**t about male problems... So as far as I know, all feminists are like that. You claim they're not, and I ask you to prove otherwise, but you have yet to do so. Also, at NO point in time did I ever say "ALL feminists are X."

It makes no difference to me if you leave or not. I tried to be somewhat respectful and reserved, and I tried to explain myself in a way that I felt was thorough, yet I still constantly get accused by you and valentinewiggin of being a sexist, and now it's being suggested that I'm some kind of wife beater... Whatever, you people can think what you want. I don't give a damn.

For the record, I have a generally negative opinion of PEOPLE in general, not just women. But what pisses me off is how you people choose to completely ignore any advantages women have and just pretend that everything is against you when it isn't. You pretend there's a special man club when there is not... or if there is, I'm not part of it, and I'm not aware of it beyond your claims.

No, I'm not about to make fun of you for being raped, but I don't care if you think my analogy is appropriate or not because it's still a good analogy.

Okay, how about getting pissed at me for calling feminazis out on their BS is the equivalent of blaming the rape on the witness who reported it to authorities? Is that better?



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26 Oct 2012, 10:51 pm

stadt, I agree with the premise of your point. But this silly argument over specific wording has gone too far. Just move on. Both of you.