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15 Sep 2017, 4:26 pm
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
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Stop being logical and reasonable. We're not here to criticize men or their actions or their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - if you try expect to hear cries of misandry. We're here to criticize women, their actions and their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - in broad generalizations that assume they're all the same nonetheless - but how dare anyone suggest there's misogyny afoot.
I'm not saying women CANNOT take responsibility for their actions nor am I putting men on some giant pedstal.
All I'm doing is making a point in how we think differently and it causes this clash that women don't understand and few men do.
You dropped the cup if you dropped the cup. That's how men typically will answer this question.
He startled me, it's no ones fault, its his fault for startling me, I can't control startling, etc. These are every answer each girl I've asked online or in real life have given me and more. I think out of as many times I've asked this question which is a s**t ton I have had two girls say. "I f****d up I dropped the cup." One even said my bad was her response. Those two I find it refreshing to talk to because we can have real discussions about stuff like dating/men etc.
The males typical response doesn't answer the entire question of who's fault it is in that case, and none of those other responses deny that the person who dropped the cup dropped it.
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
There are an absolute ton of posts on this forum from men blaming women for how they behave. This forum in itself counters your hypothesis.
Stop being logical and reasonable. We're not here to criticize men or their actions or their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - if you try expect to hear cries of misandry. We're here to criticize women, their actions and their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - in broad generalizations that assume they're all the same nonetheless - but how dare anyone suggest there's misogyny afoot.
I'm not saying women CANNOT take responsibility for their actions nor am I putting men on some giant pedstal.
All I'm doing is making a point in how we think differently and it causes this clash that women don't understand and few men do.
You dropped the cup if you dropped the cup. That's how men typically will answer this question.
He startled me, it's no ones fault, its his fault for startling me, I can't control startling, etc. These are every answer each girl I've asked online or in real life have given me and more. I think out of as many times I've asked this question which is a s**t ton I have had two girls say. "I f****d up I dropped the cup." One even said my bad was her response. Those two I find it refreshing to talk to because we can have real discussions about stuff like dating/men etc.
The males typical response doesn't answer the entire question of who's fault it is in that case, and none of those other responses deny that the person who dropped the cup dropped it.
In order to have a better world where we grow, where people learn from their mistakes carefully analyze what they do. The cup is their fault for dropping it. The cup should be your fault. You should be held accountable. Now if the other party due to circumstances decides to not hold you accountable or come up with a resolution that doesn't hold you totally accountable so be it. But you dropped the cup.
This can translate to other situations easily. But the cup is the least graphic and simplest one.
I guess it would make more sense if the analogy had to do with something a person can control. It makes sense to hold people accountable for mistakes where they have actually done something wrong they could have chosen not to. Not something as trivial as dropping a cup when startled.
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15 Sep 2017, 5:50 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
There are an absolute ton of posts on this forum from men blaming women for how they behave. This forum in itself counters your hypothesis.
Stop being logical and reasonable. We're not here to criticize men or their actions or their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - if you try expect to hear cries of misandry. We're here to criticize women, their actions and their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - in broad generalizations that assume they're all the same nonetheless - but how dare anyone suggest there's misogyny afoot.
I've chosen to stop participating at WP because of this. I thought I would pop in here to say that. I wasn't banned, I've chosen to walk away because of the atmosphere being so anti-women. It's not a welcoming or supportive environment for autistic women at all, and coming here and participating in conversations was just making me feel sad and like there is a lot of hostility out there for me and other women from autistic men that they feel comfortable expressing here, which means it's not a safe or healthy place for me to be. It also makes me sad because at first I felt like maybe I finally had a chance to feel like a part of a community for once, among people I might be able to understand. I did find some understanding and explanations for many things about myself that didn't make sense to me before, which is the saddest part. But the anger and hostility against women has poisoned the well. Reading posts here now just ends up being tiring, and that's why I know it's right to leave.
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15 Sep 2017, 6:07 pm
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
There are an absolute ton of posts on this forum from men blaming women for how they behave. This forum in itself counters your hypothesis.
Stop being logical and reasonable. We're not here to criticize men or their actions or their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - if you try expect to hear cries of misandry. We're here to criticize women, their actions and their reasons for refusing to take responsibility for their actions - in broad generalizations that assume they're all the same nonetheless - but how dare anyone suggest there's misogyny afoot.
I've chosen to stop participating at WP because of this. I thought I would pop in here to say that. I wasn't banned, I've chosen to walk away because of the atmosphere being so anti-women. It's not a welcoming or supportive environment for autistic women at all, and coming here and participating in conversations was just making me feel sad and like there is a lot of hostility out there for me and other women from autistic men that they feel comfortable expressing here, which means it's not a safe or healthy place for me to be. It also makes me sad because at first I felt like maybe I finally had a chance to feel like a part of a community for once, among people I might be able to understand. I did find some understanding and explanations for many things about myself that didn't make sense to me before, which is the saddest part. But the anger and hostility against women has poisoned the well. Reading posts here now just ends up being tiring, and that's why I know it's right to leave.
What am I reading?
There is nothing about our recent conversation that has been anti woman? Why is it the instance we start talking about people's flaws, or the inability to grasp accountability which does favor women "SOMETIMES" you instantly take it as the thread is anti woman. I personally have nothing but respect for women, and want to one day be viewed as a woman. That being said. I don't like stupidity, I don't like excuses, and I don't like people who can't take accountability for their issues. You should see me at asktransgender or mtf reddit its a nightmare some of the conversations/debates I get into with some of the girls on their about their beliefs when it comes to men. Kinda like their brain turned off and they forgot what it meant to be a dude.
Anyway so far in this thread I havn't seen any anti woman, I've seen MGTOW and some people promoting redpill, which again is not Anti-woman more so promoting men. I'm so tired of telling people everytime someone says something about a woman they don't like or points out a quality its anti woman. Its why society has reached the point it has today because no one can say anything that isn't totally pro woman without it being considered misogyny or anti woman.
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