09 Jun 2019, 4:20 am
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09 Jun 2019, 8:55 am
09 Jun 2019, 5:34 pm
Typically you do not go to a therapist specifically for dating advice, that is not apart of their job description.
This technically is not Marknis's fault as many therapists will claim they can work with all types personal problems (which I have discovered through experience they can't). Often the they are searching for an opportunity to help the client/patient become self-aware of obstacles. When talk-therapy works it's largely because it triggers the client's motivation (like a placebo) and then of course the client thinks it's some type of magic from the therapist when in reality it's the client making the connection themselves.
My statements were in reference to something someone else said in this thread. Although I don't know Marknis well, I believe he sees a Therapist for reasons beyond "how to get a date"
Therapists are widely versed and capable of helping in many areas. It may not be as direct as some people would prefer, but that's not the job. They are teacher's and guides not all knowing or dictators. Clients have to do the work themselves to find their own answers. They are just there to help them do that in a healthy manner. Most Therapists will have an area of specialty but that doesn't mean they can't be helpful in other things.
A counselor told me that
Not many things fall neatly into the DSM
When counselors discuss relationship and emotion, their statement are just as biased and amateur, as everyone else's statement
Counselor is a broad term. What was this person? Because dealing with emotional self, trauma and the like is entirely a Psychotherapist's job. Every title in the mental health field is going to operate a little differently and then have their own philosophy. Some will be clinical and others more alternative.
Obviously there will be some bias present despite some of the best efforts. Obviously there are going to be some hacks, those that aren't that healthy themselves, have never seen a therapist themselves, lacking experience and so on because they are human beings also. But those in the mental health field still have an education that the general populace does not. How well they understand their education and are able to implement is a different story. Ultimately a person has to find one that they feel good with and that they find helpful. If those things aren't there it may be time to look elsewhere.
shortfatbalduglyman I don't know what the heck kind of people you have been seeing but either your perception is off, you've just been entirely going to the wrong people or some mix of both.
Not entirely. A life coach may not have any formal training in psychology. It doesn't mean they can't be effective for some things though.
I inherently disagree that it's a placebo or illusion, everyone needs to have somewhere to express. Some people can get this satisfied by family, others have friends but sometimes a person needs more, or lacks the former two. No matter their severity or diagnosis talk therapy can be important to a persons internal well being. Just because someone may have a heavy diagnosis doesn't mean that they don't have feelings and experiences to be worked through with a Therapist.
Ayup, that is the best route for some.
09 Jun 2019, 6:21 pm
09 Jun 2019, 6:22 pm
Typically you do not go to a therapist specifically for dating advice, that is not apart of their job description.
This technically is not Marknis's fault as many therapists will claim they can work with all types personal problems (which I have discovered through experience they can't). Often the they are searching for an opportunity to help the client/patient become self-aware of obstacles. When talk-therapy works it's largely because it triggers the client's motivation (like a placebo) and then of course the client thinks it's some type of magic from the therapist when in reality it's the client making the connection themselves.
My statements were in reference to something someone else said in this thread. Although I don't know Marknis well, I believe he sees a Therapist for reasons beyond "how to get a date"
Therapists are widely versed and capable of helping in many areas. It may not be as direct as some people would prefer, but that's not the job. They are teacher's and guides not all knowing or dictators. Clients have to do the work themselves to find their own answers. They are just there to help them do that in a healthy manner. Most Therapists will have an area of specialty but that doesn't mean they can't be helpful in other things.
A counselor told me that
Not many things fall neatly into the DSM
When counselors discuss relationship and emotion, their statement are just as biased and amateur, as everyone else's statement
Counselor is a broad term. What was this person? Because dealing with emotional self, trauma and the like is entirely a Psychotherapist's job. Every title in the mental health field is going to operate a little differently and then have their own philosophy. Some will be clinical and others more alternative.
Obviously there will be some bias present despite some of the best efforts. Obviously there are going to be some hacks, those that aren't that healthy themselves, have never seen a therapist themselves, lacking experience and so on because they are human beings also. But those in the mental health field still have an education that the general populace does not. How well they understand their education and are able to implement is a different story. Ultimately a person has to find one that they feel good with and that they find helpful. If those things aren't there it may be time to look elsewhere.
shortfatbalduglyman I don't know what the heck kind of people you have been seeing but either your perception is off, you've just been entirely going to the wrong people or some mix of both.
Not entirely. A life coach may not have any formal training in psychology. It doesn't mean they can't be effective for some things though.
I inherently disagree that it's a placebo or illusion, everyone needs to have somewhere to express. Some people can get this satisfied by family, others have friends but sometimes a person needs more, or lacks the former two. No matter their severity or diagnosis talk therapy can be important to a persons internal well being. Just because someone may have a heavy diagnosis doesn't mean that they don't have feelings and experiences to be worked through with a Therapist.
Ayup, that is the best route for some.
fair enough....
09 Jun 2019, 6:52 pm
Cyber dad
My perception is "off".
Everyone's perception is off.
Everyone has bacteria. Everyone is going to drop dead. Everyone is ignorant.
Clinical psychologist, Kaiser
Contra Costa health plan, marriage family therapist
Private practice
El Cerrito high school
Berkeley free clinic
They are the "wrong people", but some counselors are even worse
Some counselors are better than them, but "actions speak louder than words" and "loose lips sink ships" 
You can't measure the quality of counseling
Counseling is not all BS, but counselors can get away with a lot of things
The client would be hard pressed to file HIPAA violation or civil lawsuit
Per HIPAA, it is illegal to tape recorder sessions
So if the client claims the counselor said something, the counselor can just deny it
freedom of speech
Counselor Jamie Adair had the nerve to tell me that "I know you're smart". She should have gotten fired. She doesn't even have the legal right to administer IQ test
Insulting
Counselors like to make vague and misleading and weird statements that are not factually inaccurate
A counselor told me that "you have a right to respect"
Wrong
People make fun of Trump. He can't stop them
If the president does not have a right to respect, nobody has a "right" to respect
What is "you are ok the way you are. People should not hurt your feelings"
Anything could "hurt" anyone's feelings
Doesn't give them veto authority
09 Jun 2019, 9:02 pm
09 Jun 2019, 9:14 pm
Cyber dad
The world contains plenty of clients
Some benefitted, neither, or detrimental
Counselors have an innocent lil attitude, like they expect me to, treat them like they dragged my worthless corpse out of a burning building
"Helped" is too strong of a word to use for, sitting around talking
The counselor tells you what they think you want to hear
Jamie Adair had the nerve to tell me that "you are important". What the f**k does "important" mean? Nothing. The b***h would not let me disagree with her . The b***h interrupted me. The b***h said "what" instead of "excuse me"
Not to mention, plenty of counselors acted like, the correct answer to "how are you doing " is "perfect". All other answers are wrong and the punishment for a wrong answer is 5150
09 Jun 2019, 9:22 pm
09 Jun 2019, 10:17 pm
Cyber dad
"You are important"
You can't measure your retail value
Your retail value is constantly changing
Even the exchange rate of monetary currency fluctuates daily
"Important" means "of great value" in the dictionary
Does not mean "of value"
Something could have value, but not great value
Value can be positive or negative
Plenty of lil dips**ts have way too much self esteem
They should be diagnosed with Narcissistic personality disorder and "delusion of grandeur".
"Important" means nothing
Ass holes ask "are you ok?", But they are just bothering me
09 Jun 2019, 10:59 pm
"You are important"
You can't measure your retail value
Your retail value is constantly changing
Even the exchange rate of monetary currency fluctuates daily
"Important" means "of great value" in the dictionary
Does not mean "of value"
Something could have value, but not great value
Value can be positive or negative
Plenty of lil dips**ts have way too much self esteem
They should be diagnosed with Narcissistic personality disorder and "delusion of grandeur".
"Important" means nothing
Ass holes ask "are you ok?", But they are just bothering me
There’s quite a chasm between feeling good about oneself and NPD. I’ve known very few narcissists.
I tend to think that most people are important and have something to contribute.
09 Jun 2019, 11:28 pm
Contribution could be positive or negative
Holocaust
Even if positive, it has to be above salvage value and above carbon footprint
Some precious lil "people" are so full of themselves, that they act like they have never done anything wrong before in their lives and "the meaning of life is helping people!"
Mister redelings had the nerve to tell me that it was "lying" for me to ask "him" to call me he instead of "she"
San Diego 2006 civil engineer, 50 years old
Skinny smart handsome cisgender neurotypical white man
Alpha male
Alpha male took for granted his social status
f**k that lil penis
When they thought I was wrong, it was like "incite a riot"
Then it ended up they were wrong
So what? Nobody knows everything
It's his "holier than thou" attitude, that is unforgivable
Not even an email apology
Court mandated financial reparations
"Actions speak louder than words"
f**k mister redelings, Sam Diego, la Jolla, civil engineer, Dave 
and f**k his wife too
Homophobic lil dips**ts
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