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05 Jan 2022, 12:07 am

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What I don't understand is, why do a sting on someone who hasn't committed a crime yet. What would be the point? No charges, so it's jus a waste of time and resources.


Sting is not done "on someone" (singular). It is done on people as a whole. They put a bait and see who will bite.

Look up "to catch a predator" show. They aren't targetting one person. They just put pretend-minors on a chat and see who will contact them.



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05 Jan 2022, 12:27 am

Oh okay. But they have to proove that they knew the person was a minor though?



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05 Jan 2022, 12:49 am

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Oh okay. But they have to proove that they knew the person was a minor though?


Actually the person is not a minor. They pretend to be. The reason is that it would be damaging to an actual minor. So they ask an adult to pretend they are a minor, that way none of the minors get hurt.

And yes, they do have to prove that they pretended to be a minor. The proof is in the chatlog. At some point in a chatlog they would casually mention the age thay are pretending to be. They are not that actual age. For example they can be 19 and say they are 13. But since they said they are 13, that is what the other person believes, and so the other person incriminates himself by talking to whom "he thinks" is 13.

In her case she said she is 18 so that is not an issue. But she also said she is in high school. So the question is whether being in high school would make her illegal.



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05 Jan 2022, 12:51 am

But I don't understand why the police would waste their time. If the person is pretending to be a minor, no crime happened. So they cannot charge them with corrupting a minor if no minor was corrupted. What's the point then?



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05 Jan 2022, 1:37 am

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But I don't understand why the police would waste their time. If the person is pretending to be a minor, no crime happened. So they cannot charge them with corrupting a minor if no minor was corrupted. What's the point then?


The point is that they *intended* to corrupt a minor. So this means that *if* the pretend-minor wasn't around, they would have corrupted some other minor that was real.

If someone "attempts to commit a crime" that is already a crime even if they weren't successful. For example if someone "attempts to rob a bank" but they didn't succeed robbing it, they still committed a crime just because they tried.

Here is an example. Once there was a REAL minor on a chat. And everyone were saying to each other "she is probably a cop pretending to be a minor, don't talk to her". So nobody talked to her. But actually she was a real minor. So the real minor was saved from predators.

But the reason this happened is because there were enough pretend-minors around. So pretend-minors have saved the real-minor. Thats the point of the whole thing.

Basically a real minor is unlikely to report it to the police. So in order to prevent people from contacting a real minor they have to be threatened with the pretend-minors. That is part of the reason that show is publicized so well (aside from intertainment of course).



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05 Jan 2022, 1:40 am

Oh okay. But how come the police do not set up false crimes for other crimes, and then arrest them for the intention of committing them, like false intended murder, or false intended rape of an adult for example? Why only arrest for the intention of corrupting minors but not other intended crimes?



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05 Jan 2022, 1:42 am

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Oh okay. But how come the police do not set up false crimes for other crimes, and then arrest them for the intention of committing them, like false intended murder, or false intended rape of an adult for example? Why only arrest for the intention of corrupting minors but not other intended crimes?


They do for some of them. For example sometimes they put a car as a bait. And if someone enters the car, the doors would open so that they can walk inside but then they would lock so that they won't be able to leave until the cops come. The car won't start moving and instead it will call a police.



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05 Jan 2022, 1:47 am

Oh okay. Well in this case though, it's not like you have anything to worry about if you want to go for someone younger as long as you ask them their age, then no need to worry about the police if they say they are legal age. If they don't then don't meet them and nothing to worry about then?



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05 Jan 2022, 1:51 am

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Oh okay. Well in this case though, it's not like you have anything to worry about if you want to go for someone younger as long as you ask them their age, then no need to worry about the police if they say they are legal age. If they don't then don't meet them and nothing to worry about then?


She said she was of legal age but she also said she was in high school. So I was wondering if being in high school would make her illegal.



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05 Jan 2022, 1:55 am

Well if the police policy in order for it to stick in court says they have to say they are of illegal age, then this still doesn't count then it seems, in order for the police to make a bust legally.



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05 Jan 2022, 2:03 am

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Well if the police policy in order for it to stick in court says they have to say they are of illegal age, then this still doesn't count then it seems, in order for the police to make a bust legally.


They don't have to say one specific thing that is illegal. They can say anything thats illegal. So if being in high school makes it illegal, then saying they are in high school is enough to stick in court.



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05 Jan 2022, 2:20 am

UPDATE: She was banned from that site. Now, normally the site bans scammers. And the one thing that scammers have in common with police decoys is that they are not who they say they are. So its possible the site would ban police decoys too for the same reason. Even though it doesn't make too much sense since police decoys are supposedly help stop the crime.

The other theory I have is maybe she IS a scammer. What scammers do is tell the person exactly what they want to hear. So she probably assumed that saying that she WANTS someone her dad's age would make me fall for her and thus make me willing to send her money when she finally asks. Well, it didn't work out as she hoped: instead of making me like her, it caused me not to. So I guess scammers are often targetting certain categories of people to which I don't belong to? I didn't find other scammers all that appealing either.

Maybe its because scammers have FAKE written all over them. One of my girlfriends was 275 lbl. Yet I got something out of the relationship with her. The scammers on the other hand feel like empty dolls. Literally. So I don't care how much of a supermodel she would be. I would rather be with 275 lbl woman who is real. I guess that is also why I didn't like some of the ideas suggested earlier (such as being a sugar daddy). It smells like a fake.

Decoys and scammers have two things in common. They both would ruin someone's life if that person falls for it. And they are both a neutral waste of time if someone doesn't. I fall into the second category. Thats why I equate them with empty dolls. The dolls can't hurt me, and neither can they (I would neither send them money nor express an intention to commit a crime). But as harmless as those "dolls" are, they would never give me any kind of pleasure either. Literally NONE. I guess I am not as shallow as some men.



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08 Jan 2022, 8:52 pm

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Oh okay. Well in this case though, it's not like you have anything to worry about if you want to go for someone younger as long as you ask them their age, then no need to worry about the police if they say they are legal age. If they don't then don't meet them and nothing to worry about then?


She said she was of legal age but she also said she was in high school. So I was wondering if being in high school would make her illegal.

Legal age is still legal age. Age is age, you could be in kindergarten and of legal age.

Grades are just not for the public, but for the family, I guess regardless of your age. And people are still vulnerable as 18 year old teens, even if considered adults. But school's policy might just be grades shouldnt be able to be used by outsiders, its unfavorable for the person. It\s the same in Romania if i remember correctly. Also just bc you're an adult doesnt mean your workplace will give out details about you to randoms.

If the person is mentally debilitated, low IQ, then it might illegal to be with them, though, as it's considered they can't consent. Depite this there have been such people dating each other, both fitting that criteria.


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08 Jan 2022, 9:01 pm

I met an 8 year old saying he was in highschool, lol. He also spoke 2 languages fluidly so I'm like no one will believe you. He insisted its true xD


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08 Jan 2022, 11:34 pm

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I met an 8 year old saying he was in highschool, lol. He also spoke 2 languages fluidly so I'm like no one will believe you. He insisted its true xD

I've been publicly exposed. :lol: :heart:



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09 Jan 2022, 1:45 am

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ironpony wrote:
Oh okay. Well in this case though, it's not like you have anything to worry about if you want to go for someone younger as long as you ask them their age, then no need to worry about the police if they say they are legal age. If they don't then don't meet them and nothing to worry about then?


She said she was of legal age but she also said she was in high school. So I was wondering if being in high school would make her illegal.

Legal age is still legal age. Age is age, you could be in kindergarten and of legal age.

Grades are just not for the public, but for the family, I guess regardless of your age. And people are still vulnerable as 18 year old teens, even if considered adults. But school's policy might just be grades shouldnt be able to be used by outsiders, its unfavorable for the person. It\s the same in Romania if i remember correctly. Also just bc you're an adult doesnt mean your workplace will give out details about you to randoms.

If the person is mentally debilitated, low IQ, then it might illegal to be with them, though, as it's considered they can't consent. Depite this there have been such people dating each other, both fitting that criteria.


Oh yes, but what I mean is if the person is of the age or consent or above, what does the OP have to worry about? I mean let's say it's a police sting... Do the police have people who go undercover as mentally disabled people just to make a bust on a crime that hasn't even happened really?