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14 Jun 2012, 9:21 pm

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I hear women that use shirtless pics have a 100% success rating ;)


My success rate increased like 300% ;)

From like 1-2 replies per couple of weeks to....

old days: http://i.imgur.com/Xz9Bq.png


Now??


Let me estimate...

At least 5 to 10 messages per day.


Now you should do a study on your success of getting laid by these women. That would be more compelling.

Dont be silly that would mean that we have to stop speculating about them and stick to the facts and thats just boring.

Anyways I already suggested that he waited until he met one of them earlier on this thread to continue posting the results of this experiment but he is free to do whatever he wishes



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14 Jun 2012, 9:50 pm

spongy wrote:
bizboy1 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
JanuaryMan wrote:
I hear women that use shirtless pics have a 100% success rating ;)


My success rate increased like 300% ;)

From like 1-2 replies per couple of weeks to....

old days: http://i.imgur.com/Xz9Bq.png


Now??


Let me estimate...

At least 5 to 10 messages per day.


Now you should do a study on your success of getting laid by these women. That would be more compelling.

Dont be silly that would mean that we have to stop speculating about them and stick to the facts and thats just boring.

Anyways I already suggested that he waited until he met one of them earlier on this thread to continue posting the results of this experiment but he is free to do whatever he wishes


As ive said, its already proven a success no? Hes not going to get a great girl if nobody replies to him. Actually having people talking to him bettered his chances. So its already proven, you and the others just want it to fail



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14 Jun 2012, 10:24 pm

MXH wrote:
spongy wrote:
bizboy1 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
JanuaryMan wrote:
I hear women that use shirtless pics have a 100% success rating ;)


My success rate increased like 300% ;)

From like 1-2 replies per couple of weeks to....

old days: http://i.imgur.com/Xz9Bq.png


Now??


Let me estimate...

At least 5 to 10 messages per day.


Now you should do a study on your success of getting laid by these women. That would be more compelling.

Dont be silly that would mean that we have to stop speculating about them and stick to the facts and thats just boring.

Anyways I already suggested that he waited until he met one of them earlier on this thread to continue posting the results of this experiment but he is free to do whatever he wishes


As ive said, its already proven a success no? Hes not going to get a great girl if nobody replies to him. Actually having people talking to him bettered his chances. So its already proven, you and the others just want it to fail

I dont want it to fail.

I said Im very glad that he found what works for him but my point about waiting to actually meet them would have been brought up wether he was trying to prove this or something thats completely opposite.
I just dont like it when people try to take out conclusions in an unsuitable manner and right now its too soon to take out conclusions about them(which he did on the first post).

If he had just talked about the increase on messages I wouldnt have intervened on this thread because as I pointed out I stopped online dating a while ago



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14 Jun 2012, 10:48 pm

he has mentioned he has a couple that want to meet already.The guy did a conclusion the proper way. He changed 1 variable (pic) and got completely different results. It wasnt a different profile, or different way of talking, but just the picture. Are you going to wait till he gets married to ask final result? Im not trying to belittle you, im just confused as to why everyone turns the idea that women can care about looks as being fake



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14 Jun 2012, 11:12 pm

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he has mentioned he has a couple that want to meet already.The guy did a conclusion the proper way. He changed 1 variable (pic) and got completely different results. It wasnt a different profile, or different way of talking, but just the picture. Are you going to wait till he gets married to ask final result? Im not trying to belittle you, im just confused as to why everyone turns the idea that women can care about looks as being fake

Im well aware that women care about looks in a similar amount to males and I havent tried to deny that at any point on this thread.

Im also aware that people can keep up a great conversation online and then decide not to meet for whatever reasons.
Im not waiting until he gets married but considering his amount of success with the messages it shouldnt be too hard for him to actually meet one of them and I´ll keep my mouth shout at that point.

Edit: to make my point clear: Correct me if Im wrong boo but was your intention when you joined okcupid to exchange messages with them? Most people join okcupid hoping to actually meet someone so Im judging the success on wether he actually meets them or not.
If boo´s intention when he joined okcupid was just to exchange messages(seen some males with this intentions on other forums and you never know)then Im very happy for him, otherwise Im going to wait until his intention is accomplished to say that its a success.



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14 Jun 2012, 11:57 pm

What im saying is if he was barely able to get girls to reply before then by default theres a highwer chances of meeting people when theres plenty of replies



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15 Jun 2012, 12:38 am

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Haha. If he has his top off I most definitely will never message him, or reply to his message, that's for sure!! (But that's a whole different thread.)



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I am replying this in the other relevant okcupid thread.




Based on OKTrends, you can tell that the number of girls who find a shirtless pic offensive is less than the number of girls who would love to reply to a guy with a shirtless pic.

And this exactly how my experience was, in fact the few girls who found my shirtless pic offensive are the same girls who never messaged or replied to me when I had a modest geeky-style clothed profile pic.

So where's the loss here? not much.

And please, pre-spare me the quality over quantity speech, the girls being interested in me there are not at all the empty-headed shallow girls.

Surprisingly, MOST of them are well-educated liberal feminists (strongest prospects: a feminist journalist with geeky interests living in beirut , an atheist lebanese architect, a rebellious atheist egyptian who lived in Beirut before , an extremely liberal mexican into the Levant political science who visited the region and Lebanon several times and will again....etc), the ones who found my pic offensive were more of the conservative religious type.


Yes, maybe there are many girls like you that would skip a guy because of his shirtless pic, but that doesn't automatically mean that they would message/reply him if he had a normal pic, in fact it's not likely they would since from what i gather here, girls are very selective in replying/messaging.

ON THE OTHER HAND, a lot of girls would get a spark while seeing a shirtless pic and because of this spark they'd message/reply him, something that wouldn't happen if the same guy had a normal pic. ;)

Yes, I have certainly read with interest your success with the shirtless pic.

Most of my female friends would be turned off by that sort of pic (btw I have not seen YOUR pic, I'm talking about any guy). I do have one friend who is very smart, attractive, etc. etc. who probably would go for it. I also consider her somewhat naive in the dating world, and worry a bit about the sort of guy she might hook up with by the way I have seen her browse profiles on Oasis. *shrug*

Not having a topless pic certainly doesn't guarantee a reply from me. In fact, I'm extremely fussy. But a topless pic gives a guy much less chance than no topless pic. I have AS, so of course I am not a typical female. It appears that the typical female likes to see the shirt off. Cool.


I heard a lot of such claims online by females, claiming that all or most of their female friends would be turn off by that sort of pic.

Hmm

Are you certain of that, yellow? Are you all certain of this?

You have to realize that what people claim isn't the same what they really do behind the doors.

I can guarantee you that some of those who claim they're turned off, would drool or fap over some shirtless guy on the screen (or did when they were singles) :p.


The truth is alot of people see shirtless pics and bikini pics a sign that someone has confitdence in their body. While this isn't always true it is generally what people fall back on. (note very few people see someone as confitdent in their body if they show such pics and their body is not toned and/or well kept)

I have no doubt that The_Face_of_Boo has gotten more replies by showing off his body, but I would imagine that the amount of actual relationships he forms will not change. Of course if hes just looking for casual sex that will probably rise, for the same reason hes getting more replies "it seems fun at the time". I know alot of women who would replie back to a guy who messaged them and had a shirtless pic just for giggles and nothing else.


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15 Jun 2012, 12:56 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Haha. If he has his top off I most definitely will never message him, or reply to his message, that's for sure!! (But that's a whole different thread.)



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I am replying this in the other relevant okcupid thread.




Based on OKTrends, you can tell that the number of girls who find a shirtless pic offensive is less than the number of girls who would love to reply to a guy with a shirtless pic.

And this exactly how my experience was, in fact the few girls who found my shirtless pic offensive are the same girls who never messaged or replied to me when I had a modest geeky-style clothed profile pic.

So where's the loss here? not much.

And please, pre-spare me the quality over quantity speech, the girls being interested in me there are not at all the empty-headed shallow girls.

Surprisingly, MOST of them are well-educated liberal feminists (strongest prospects: a feminist journalist with geeky interests living in beirut , an atheist lebanese architect, a rebellious atheist egyptian who lived in Beirut before , an extremely liberal mexican into the Levant political science who visited the region and Lebanon several times and will again....etc), the ones who found my pic offensive were more of the conservative religious type.


Yes, maybe there are many girls like you that would skip a guy because of his shirtless pic, but that doesn't automatically mean that they would message/reply him if he had a normal pic, in fact it's not likely they would since from what i gather here, girls are very selective in replying/messaging.

ON THE OTHER HAND, a lot of girls would get a spark while seeing a shirtless pic and because of this spark they'd message/reply him, something that wouldn't happen if the same guy had a normal pic. ;)

Yes, I have certainly read with interest your success with the shirtless pic.

Most of my female friends would be turned off by that sort of pic (btw I have not seen YOUR pic, I'm talking about any guy). I do have one friend who is very smart, attractive, etc. etc. who probably would go for it. I also consider her somewhat naive in the dating world, and worry a bit about the sort of guy she might hook up with by the way I have seen her browse profiles on Oasis. *shrug*

Not having a topless pic certainly doesn't guarantee a reply from me. In fact, I'm extremely fussy. But a topless pic gives a guy much less chance than no topless pic. I have AS, so of course I am not a typical female. It appears that the typical female likes to see the shirt off. Cool.


I heard a lot of such claims online by females, claiming that all or most of their female friends would be turn off by that sort of pic.

Hmm

Are you certain of that, yellow? Are you all certain of this?

You have to realize that what people claim isn't the same what they really do behind the doors.

I can guarantee you that some of those who claim they're turned off, would drool or fap over some shirtless guy on the screen (or did when they were singles) :p.


Drool or fap, probably.
Talk to? That's a dfiferent story.
There's a difference between masturbation material and relationship material.


LOL yea right.

You're wrong, I am telling you, and i don't feel like to share regarding this....

But

If the drooling material is reachable then why wouldn't they try? it's totally illogical to not to.


Can't you come up with a decent argument for why I'm wrong?

Looks are only one part of what people look for in a relationship.
If a guy has his shirt off, that will make him more likely to be judged as a posing show-off. You'd wonder if he was going to be parading himself to other girls constantly if he was with you.
It would be even worse if a girl did it, as she'd be judged as a slut and a bit crazy. I don't think most guys would go for someone who looks like she'd sleep with anyone and everyone- people don't like sharing.

How many guys would realistically want to date a porn star? (Note that sleeping with someone and then ignoring them all the rest of the time while you play video games does not count as dating.)


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15 Jun 2012, 2:04 am

spongy wrote:
MXH wrote:
he has mentioned he has a couple that want to meet already.The guy did a conclusion the proper way. He changed 1 variable (pic) and got completely different results. It wasnt a different profile, or different way of talking, but just the picture. Are you going to wait till he gets married to ask final result? Im not trying to belittle you, im just confused as to why everyone turns the idea that women can care about looks as being fake

Im well aware that women care about looks in a similar amount to males and I havent tried to deny that at any point on this thread.

Im also aware that people can keep up a great conversation online and then decide not to meet for whatever reasons.
Im not waiting until he gets married but considering his amount of success with the messages it shouldnt be too hard for him to actually meet one of them and I´ll keep my mouth shout at that point.

Edit: to make my point clear: Correct me if Im wrong boo but was your intention when you joined okcupid to exchange messages with them? Most people join okcupid hoping to actually meet someone so Im judging the success on wether he actually meets them or not.
If boo´s intention when he joined okcupid was just to exchange messages(seen some males with this intentions on other forums and you never know)then Im very happy for him, otherwise Im going to wait until his intention is accomplished to say that its a success.


You again.....

Where did I say I succeeded in getting actual dates? I did explain to DogsWH the point of this thread.

How successful the dates would be later is irrelevant for the audience here and for the thread's goal, maybe *I* will fail in all upcoming dates, maybe *I* ll succeed in all them...i dunno, but that will be a totally different story.

And what that silly intention you're talking about? of course it wasn't just to exchange messages.



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15 Jun 2012, 2:43 am

Zinnel wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Haha. If he has his top off I most definitely will never message him, or reply to his message, that's for sure!! (But that's a whole different thread.)



Quote:
I am replying this in the other relevant okcupid thread.




Based on OKTrends, you can tell that the number of girls who find a shirtless pic offensive is less than the number of girls who would love to reply to a guy with a shirtless pic.

And this exactly how my experience was, in fact the few girls who found my shirtless pic offensive are the same girls who never messaged or replied to me when I had a modest geeky-style clothed profile pic.

So where's the loss here? not much.

And please, pre-spare me the quality over quantity speech, the girls being interested in me there are not at all the empty-headed shallow girls.

Surprisingly, MOST of them are well-educated liberal feminists (strongest prospects: a feminist journalist with geeky interests living in beirut , an atheist lebanese architect, a rebellious atheist egyptian who lived in Beirut before , an extremely liberal mexican into the Levant political science who visited the region and Lebanon several times and will again....etc), the ones who found my pic offensive were more of the conservative religious type.


Yes, maybe there are many girls like you that would skip a guy because of his shirtless pic, but that doesn't automatically mean that they would message/reply him if he had a normal pic, in fact it's not likely they would since from what i gather here, girls are very selective in replying/messaging.

ON THE OTHER HAND, a lot of girls would get a spark while seeing a shirtless pic and because of this spark they'd message/reply him, something that wouldn't happen if the same guy had a normal pic. ;)

Yes, I have certainly read with interest your success with the shirtless pic.

Most of my female friends would be turned off by that sort of pic (btw I have not seen YOUR pic, I'm talking about any guy). I do have one friend who is very smart, attractive, etc. etc. who probably would go for it. I also consider her somewhat naive in the dating world, and worry a bit about the sort of guy she might hook up with by the way I have seen her browse profiles on Oasis. *shrug*

Not having a topless pic certainly doesn't guarantee a reply from me. In fact, I'm extremely fussy. But a topless pic gives a guy much less chance than no topless pic. I have AS, so of course I am not a typical female. It appears that the typical female likes to see the shirt off. Cool.


I heard a lot of such claims online by females, claiming that all or most of their female friends would be turn off by that sort of pic.

Hmm

Are you certain of that, yellow? Are you all certain of this?

You have to realize that what people claim isn't the same what they really do behind the doors.

I can guarantee you that some of those who claim they're turned off, would drool or fap over some shirtless guy on the screen (or did when they were singles) :p.


The truth is alot of people see shirtless pics and bikini pics a sign that someone has confitdence in their body. While this isn't always true it is generally what people fall back on. (note very few people see someone as confitdent in their body if they show such pics and their body is not toned and/or well kept)

I have no doubt that The_Face_of_Boo has gotten more replies by showing off his body, but I would imagine that the amount of actual relationships he forms will not change. Of course if hes just looking for casual sex that will probably rise, for the same reason hes getting more replies "it seems fun at the time". I know alot of women who would replie back to a guy who messaged them and had a shirtless pic just for giggles and nothing else.


I've exchanged phone numbers with two girls already and one exchanged FBs (with phone numbers displayed) - so sorry to pop your bubble, it's not all just for giggles and nothing else.

As for the casual sex thing....


Well, let me put it this way, I did want a long term then and still prefer it, but i was getting nothing, no potential of anything, no LT no Short term or even a fling.

So if all what i would get out of this tactic just casual sex then yes, it's better than nothing.



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15 Jun 2012, 2:50 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Quote:
Haha. If he has his top off I most definitely will never message him, or reply to his message, that's for sure!! (But that's a whole different thread.)



Quote:
I am replying this in the other relevant okcupid thread.




Based on OKTrends, you can tell that the number of girls who find a shirtless pic offensive is less than the number of girls who would love to reply to a guy with a shirtless pic.

And this exactly how my experience was, in fact the few girls who found my shirtless pic offensive are the same girls who never messaged or replied to me when I had a modest geeky-style clothed profile pic.

So where's the loss here? not much.

And please, pre-spare me the quality over quantity speech, the girls being interested in me there are not at all the empty-headed shallow girls.

Surprisingly, MOST of them are well-educated liberal feminists (strongest prospects: a feminist journalist with geeky interests living in beirut , an atheist lebanese architect, a rebellious atheist egyptian who lived in Beirut before , an extremely liberal mexican into the Levant political science who visited the region and Lebanon several times and will again....etc), the ones who found my pic offensive were more of the conservative religious type.


Yes, maybe there are many girls like you that would skip a guy because of his shirtless pic, but that doesn't automatically mean that they would message/reply him if he had a normal pic, in fact it's not likely they would since from what i gather here, girls are very selective in replying/messaging.

ON THE OTHER HAND, a lot of girls would get a spark while seeing a shirtless pic and because of this spark they'd message/reply him, something that wouldn't happen if the same guy had a normal pic. ;)

Yes, I have certainly read with interest your success with the shirtless pic.

Most of my female friends would be turned off by that sort of pic (btw I have not seen YOUR pic, I'm talking about any guy). I do have one friend who is very smart, attractive, etc. etc. who probably would go for it. I also consider her somewhat naive in the dating world, and worry a bit about the sort of guy she might hook up with by the way I have seen her browse profiles on Oasis. *shrug*

Not having a topless pic certainly doesn't guarantee a reply from me. In fact, I'm extremely fussy. But a topless pic gives a guy much less chance than no topless pic. I have AS, so of course I am not a typical female. It appears that the typical female likes to see the shirt off. Cool.


I heard a lot of such claims online by females, claiming that all or most of their female friends would be turn off by that sort of pic.

Hmm

Are you certain of that, yellow? Are you all certain of this?

You have to realize that what people claim isn't the same what they really do behind the doors.

I can guarantee you that some of those who claim they're turned off, would drool or fap over some shirtless guy on the screen (or did when they were singles) :p.


Drool or fap, probably.
Talk to? That's a dfiferent story.
There's a difference between masturbation material and relationship material.


LOL yea right.

You're wrong, I am telling you, and i don't feel like to share regarding this....

But

If the drooling material is reachable then why wouldn't they try? it's totally illogical to not to.


Can't you come up with a decent argument for why I'm wrong?

Looks are only one part of what people look for in a relationship.
If a guy has his shirt off, that will make him more likely to be judged as a posing show-off. You'd wonder if he was going to be parading himself to other girls constantly if he was with you.
It would be even worse if a girl did it, as she'd be judged as a slut and a bit crazy. I don't think most guys would go for someone who looks like she'd sleep with anyone and everyone- people don't like sharing.

How many guys would realistically want to date a porn star? (Note that sleeping with someone and then ignoring them all the rest of the time while you play video games does not count as dating.)


There are several types of relationships, it's not always a long term....



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15 Jun 2012, 5:14 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Quote:
Haha. If he has his top off I most definitely will never message him, or reply to his message, that's for sure!! (But that's a whole different thread.)



Quote:
I am replying this in the other relevant okcupid thread.




Based on OKTrends, you can tell that the number of girls who find a shirtless pic offensive is less than the number of girls who would love to reply to a guy with a shirtless pic.

And this exactly how my experience was, in fact the few girls who found my shirtless pic offensive are the same girls who never messaged or replied to me when I had a modest geeky-style clothed profile pic.

So where's the loss here? not much.

And please, pre-spare me the quality over quantity speech, the girls being interested in me there are not at all the empty-headed shallow girls.

Surprisingly, MOST of them are well-educated liberal feminists (strongest prospects: a feminist journalist with geeky interests living in beirut , an atheist lebanese architect, a rebellious atheist egyptian who lived in Beirut before , an extremely liberal mexican into the Levant political science who visited the region and Lebanon several times and will again....etc), the ones who found my pic offensive were more of the conservative religious type.


Yes, maybe there are many girls like you that would skip a guy because of his shirtless pic, but that doesn't automatically mean that they would message/reply him if he had a normal pic, in fact it's not likely they would since from what i gather here, girls are very selective in replying/messaging.

ON THE OTHER HAND, a lot of girls would get a spark while seeing a shirtless pic and because of this spark they'd message/reply him, something that wouldn't happen if the same guy had a normal pic. ;)

Yes, I have certainly read with interest your success with the shirtless pic.

Most of my female friends would be turned off by that sort of pic (btw I have not seen YOUR pic, I'm talking about any guy). I do have one friend who is very smart, attractive, etc. etc. who probably would go for it. I also consider her somewhat naive in the dating world, and worry a bit about the sort of guy she might hook up with by the way I have seen her browse profiles on Oasis. *shrug*

Not having a topless pic certainly doesn't guarantee a reply from me. In fact, I'm extremely fussy. But a topless pic gives a guy much less chance than no topless pic. I have AS, so of course I am not a typical female. It appears that the typical female likes to see the shirt off. Cool.


I heard a lot of such claims online by females, claiming that all or most of their female friends would be turn off by that sort of pic.

Hmm

Are you certain of that, yellow? Are you all certain of this?

You have to realize that what people claim isn't the same what they really do behind the doors.

I can guarantee you that some of those who claim they're turned off, would drool or fap over some shirtless guy on the screen (or did when they were singles) :p.


Drool or fap, probably.
Talk to? That's a dfiferent story.
There's a difference between masturbation material and relationship material.


LOL yea right.

You're wrong, I am telling you, and i don't feel like to share regarding this....

But

If the drooling material is reachable then why wouldn't they try? it's totally illogical to not to.


Can't you come up with a decent argument for why I'm wrong?

Looks are only one part of what people look for in a relationship.
If a guy has his shirt off, that will make him more likely to be judged as a posing show-off. You'd wonder if he was going to be parading himself to other girls constantly if he was with you.
It would be even worse if a girl did it, as she'd be judged as a slut and a bit crazy. I don't think most guys would go for someone who looks like she'd sleep with anyone and everyone- people don't like sharing.

How many guys would realistically want to date a porn star? (Note that sleeping with someone and then ignoring them all the rest of the time while you play video games does not count as dating.)


There are several types of relationships, it's not always a long term....


So you're classing FWB and flings as relationships? In that case I'd agree that you'd probably get more success with shirtless pictures. I was talking more about serious stuff.


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15 Jun 2012, 7:06 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
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Haha. If he has his top off I most definitely will never message him, or reply to his message, that's for sure!! (But that's a whole different thread.)



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I am replying this in the other relevant okcupid thread.




Based on OKTrends, you can tell that the number of girls who find a shirtless pic offensive is less than the number of girls who would love to reply to a guy with a shirtless pic.

And this exactly how my experience was, in fact the few girls who found my shirtless pic offensive are the same girls who never messaged or replied to me when I had a modest geeky-style clothed profile pic.

So where's the loss here? not much.

And please, pre-spare me the quality over quantity speech, the girls being interested in me there are not at all the empty-headed shallow girls.

Surprisingly, MOST of them are well-educated liberal feminists (strongest prospects: a feminist journalist with geeky interests living in beirut , an atheist lebanese architect, a rebellious atheist egyptian who lived in Beirut before , an extremely liberal mexican into the Levant political science who visited the region and Lebanon several times and will again....etc), the ones who found my pic offensive were more of the conservative religious type.


Yes, maybe there are many girls like you that would skip a guy because of his shirtless pic, but that doesn't automatically mean that they would message/reply him if he had a normal pic, in fact it's not likely they would since from what i gather here, girls are very selective in replying/messaging.

ON THE OTHER HAND, a lot of girls would get a spark while seeing a shirtless pic and because of this spark they'd message/reply him, something that wouldn't happen if the same guy had a normal pic. ;)

Yes, I have certainly read with interest your success with the shirtless pic.

Most of my female friends would be turned off by that sort of pic (btw I have not seen YOUR pic, I'm talking about any guy). I do have one friend who is very smart, attractive, etc. etc. who probably would go for it. I also consider her somewhat naive in the dating world, and worry a bit about the sort of guy she might hook up with by the way I have seen her browse profiles on Oasis. *shrug*

Not having a topless pic certainly doesn't guarantee a reply from me. In fact, I'm extremely fussy. But a topless pic gives a guy much less chance than no topless pic. I have AS, so of course I am not a typical female. It appears that the typical female likes to see the shirt off. Cool.


I heard a lot of such claims online by females, claiming that all or most of their female friends would be turn off by that sort of pic.

Hmm

Are you certain of that, yellow? Are you all certain of this?

You have to realize that what people claim isn't the same what they really do behind the doors.

I can guarantee you that some of those who claim they're turned off, would drool or fap over some shirtless guy on the screen (or did when they were singles) :p.


Drool or fap, probably.
Talk to? That's a dfiferent story.
There's a difference between masturbation material and relationship material.


LOL yea right.

You're wrong, I am telling you, and i don't feel like to share regarding this....

But

If the drooling material is reachable then why wouldn't they try? it's totally illogical to not to.


Can't you come up with a decent argument for why I'm wrong?

Looks are only one part of what people look for in a relationship.
If a guy has his shirt off, that will make him more likely to be judged as a posing show-off. You'd wonder if he was going to be parading himself to other girls constantly if he was with you.
It would be even worse if a girl did it, as she'd be judged as a slut and a bit crazy. I don't think most guys would go for someone who looks like she'd sleep with anyone and everyone- people don't like sharing.

How many guys would realistically want to date a porn star? (Note that sleeping with someone and then ignoring them all the rest of the time while you play video games does not count as dating.)


There are several types of relationships, it's not always a long term....


So you're classing FWB and flings as relationships? In that case I'd agree that you'd probably get more success with shirtless pictures. I was talking more about serious stuff.


Anyway, why you are all assuming that all the contacts i am getting are just FWB/flings potentials? No, not all them :), not all girls view shirtless guys as just fap to fwb materials ;p.



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15 Jun 2012, 8:37 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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he has mentioned he has a couple that want to meet already.The guy did a conclusion the proper way. He changed 1 variable (pic) and got completely different results. It wasnt a different profile, or different way of talking, but just the picture. Are you going to wait till he gets married to ask final result? Im not trying to belittle you, im just confused as to why everyone turns the idea that women can care about looks as being fake

Im well aware that women care about looks in a similar amount to males and I havent tried to deny that at any point on this thread.

Im also aware that people can keep up a great conversation online and then decide not to meet for whatever reasons.
Im not waiting until he gets married but considering his amount of success with the messages it shouldnt be too hard for him to actually meet one of them and I´ll keep my mouth shout at that point.

Edit: to make my point clear: Correct me if Im wrong boo but was your intention when you joined okcupid to exchange messages with them? Most people join okcupid hoping to actually meet someone so Im judging the success on wether he actually meets them or not.
If boo´s intention when he joined okcupid was just to exchange messages(seen some males with this intentions on other forums and you never know)then Im very happy for him, otherwise Im going to wait until his intention is accomplished to say that its a success.


You again.....

Where did I say I succeeded in getting actual dates? I did explain to DogsWH the point of this thread.

How successful the dates would be later is irrelevant for the audience here and for the thread's goal, maybe *I* will fail in all upcoming dates, maybe *I* ll succeed in all them...i dunno, but that will be a totally different story.

And what that silly intention you're talking about? of course it wasn't just to exchange messages.

MXH said that it was already a success I brought up the point that you are taking conclusions out of this way too soon and that considering your intent when you joined its a bit too early to start celebrating.

Im well aware that you didnt join just to exchange messages which is my point. Nothing has happened besides that yet so its a bit too early to be so confident about how the whole thing is going to play out(which was the point I made and you ignored several pages ago).

As I said Im very happy that you have a chance to talk to this girls and to hear that you are arranging dates... but I think that you are making a mistake by overthinking about this way too soon.

On topic: Im probably meeting someone tonight(no shirtless pics involved). I´ll explain things in further detail once Ive actually met her since I dont know what will happen



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15 Jun 2012, 10:12 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Zinnel wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Haha. If he has his top off I most definitely will never message him, or reply to his message, that's for sure!! (But that's a whole different thread.)



Quote:
I am replying this in the other relevant okcupid thread.




Based on OKTrends, you can tell that the number of girls who find a shirtless pic offensive is less than the number of girls who would love to reply to a guy with a shirtless pic.

And this exactly how my experience was, in fact the few girls who found my shirtless pic offensive are the same girls who never messaged or replied to me when I had a modest geeky-style clothed profile pic.

So where's the loss here? not much.

And please, pre-spare me the quality over quantity speech, the girls being interested in me there are not at all the empty-headed shallow girls.

Surprisingly, MOST of them are well-educated liberal feminists (strongest prospects: a feminist journalist with geeky interests living in beirut , an atheist lebanese architect, a rebellious atheist egyptian who lived in Beirut before , an extremely liberal mexican into the Levant political science who visited the region and Lebanon several times and will again....etc), the ones who found my pic offensive were more of the conservative religious type.


Yes, maybe there are many girls like you that would skip a guy because of his shirtless pic, but that doesn't automatically mean that they would message/reply him if he had a normal pic, in fact it's not likely they would since from what i gather here, girls are very selective in replying/messaging.

ON THE OTHER HAND, a lot of girls would get a spark while seeing a shirtless pic and because of this spark they'd message/reply him, something that wouldn't happen if the same guy had a normal pic. ;)

Yes, I have certainly read with interest your success with the shirtless pic.

Most of my female friends would be turned off by that sort of pic (btw I have not seen YOUR pic, I'm talking about any guy). I do have one friend who is very smart, attractive, etc. etc. who probably would go for it. I also consider her somewhat naive in the dating world, and worry a bit about the sort of guy she might hook up with by the way I have seen her browse profiles on Oasis. *shrug*

Not having a topless pic certainly doesn't guarantee a reply from me. In fact, I'm extremely fussy. But a topless pic gives a guy much less chance than no topless pic. I have AS, so of course I am not a typical female. It appears that the typical female likes to see the shirt off. Cool.


I heard a lot of such claims online by females, claiming that all or most of their female friends would be turn off by that sort of pic.

Hmm

Are you certain of that, yellow? Are you all certain of this?

You have to realize that what people claim isn't the same what they really do behind the doors.

I can guarantee you that some of those who claim they're turned off, would drool or fap over some shirtless guy on the screen (or did when they were singles) :p.


The truth is alot of people see shirtless pics and bikini pics a sign that someone has confitdence in their body. While this isn't always true it is generally what people fall back on. (note very few people see someone as confitdent in their body if they show such pics and their body is not toned and/or well kept)

I have no doubt that The_Face_of_Boo has gotten more replies by showing off his body, but I would imagine that the amount of actual relationships he forms will not change. Of course if hes just looking for casual sex that will probably rise, for the same reason hes getting more replies "it seems fun at the time". I know alot of women who would replie back to a guy who messaged them and had a shirtless pic just for giggles and nothing else.


I've exchanged number with two girls already and one exchanged FBs (with phone numbers displayed) - so sorry to pop your bubble, it's not all just for giggles and nothing else.

As for the casual sex thing....


Well, let me put it this way, I did want a long term then and still prefer it, but i was getting nothing, no potential of anything, no LT no Short term or even a fling.

So if all what i would get out of this tactic just casual sex then yes, it's better than nothing.


So I'm guess you didn't get any of that before? The ratio of replies to messages sent is more equal now? Honestly If that works for you thats great. When I actualy spent time shuffling through profiles I actualy would get similar if not better results and my pics are horrible with bad lighting and everything. Are you sure the only thing thats changed is your pics and not the way you message others or any other factors?


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15 Jun 2012, 1:16 pm

This thread is called "For guys who are having zero replies on okcupid." and this what is it, and I was pretty clear what I did and what is the thread's point pages ago.

I am not gonna reply to any other irrevelant sub-discussion in this thread any further.



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