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05 Mar 2017, 2:37 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
MushroomPrincess wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So you weigh 172, but a woman who weighs 175 is way too fat for you? Maybe you should make sure you yourself have a perfect body type before you decide women are un-datable if they weight even two more pounds than you.
You hit it right on the head, here. I think a lot of aspie men suffer from "Internet Male Syndrome"; that is, unrealistic standards molded by years of porn consumption. As if a beautiful woman is a priceless work of art to be scrutinized, rather than a human being with thoughts and feelings.A non-overweight woman =/= a pornstar.
So either one extreme or the other?
So if a man doesn't find obesity attractive then he must be after women who look like pornstars only - logic.
The issue at hand how is a woman who weights 175 severely morbidly obese compared to a guy who weighs 172 pounds? no one has explained this yet.
Also I don't see where anyone suggested if a guy doesn't find obesity attractive he only goes after women who look like porn stars...you're really good at exaggerating and misrepresenting what people actually say.
Sweetleaf wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So you weigh 172, but a woman who weighs 175 is way too fat for you? Maybe you should make sure you yourself have a perfect body type before you decide women are un-datable if they weight even two more pounds than you.
As Boo suggested men and women are built differently. There are differences in height, build, muscle mass, bone density, etc.I'm 6'2. At 172 pounds I'd have a BMI of 22.1. That's not overweight.
Most women are less than 6 foot. The average American woman is 5'4. At 172 pounds she'd have a BMI of 29.6. A far cry from 22.1.
As for the guy, he's no slim jim himself. He's just 2 pounds away from being overweight. He's also a few inches underheight.
I agree with Boo's point that to say a man is either attracted to any weight or only attracted to pornstars is a false-dichotomy.
Well yes it is, but I don't think anyone suggested that guys are either attracted to any weight or only attracted to pornstars.
Also that is exactly my point a 175 pound female may likely be overweight but he's not exactly far from it himself, so kind of unfair he views someone only two pounds heavier as severely overweight and unhealthy.
Read back MushroomPrincess' post.
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05 Mar 2017, 2:43 am
Alliekit wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So a healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard?
Yes Boo. A healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard.See link below
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport
Apperantly the woman in the ad above set an "unrealistic body image".
She does not look underweight to me
I wonder if Mayor Sadiq Khan was bribed by McDonald's to get those ads taken down
Because the woman's body in that add is unachivable by most and is heavily posed and photoshopped.
Just look at this woman
Yes. She's nice. I wouldn't call her fat. It's interesting to note that the girl in the ad doesn't keep her arms away from her body or smile. She doesn't need to twist her body to the side or wear black.
As for her body being "unachievable" I see many women with that kind of body in the train station every morning. I also see a lot of women who are a lot slimmer than her.
I assure you that the women I look at in real life have not been photoshopped.
The woman I shared is a fitness instructor so not its not achievable by everyone no matter how hard you work our and everyone has belly fat and rolls.
Not everyone has belly fat and rolls. I know people who don't.
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05 Mar 2017, 2:56 am
Closet Genious wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So a healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard?
Yes Boo. A healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard.See link below
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport
Apperantly the woman in the ad above set an "unrealistic body image".
She does not look underweight to me
I wonder if Mayor Sadiq Khan was bribed by McDonald's to get those ads taken down
I can understand the jealousy
That woman's body is absolutely perfect. wow.I'm jelous too. I want a body like that.
Not for myself, I want a body like that lying beside me
Alliekit wrote:
My brother is overweight and his girlfriend is a stunning woman who is a size 4 (size 2 in US).
Now I'm green with envy 
05 Mar 2017, 3:19 am
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05 Mar 2017, 3:51 am
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So a healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard?
Yes Boo. A healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard.See link below
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport
Apperantly the woman in the ad above set an "unrealistic body image".
She does not look underweight to me
I wonder if Mayor Sadiq Khan was bribed by McDonald's to get those ads taken down
I can understand the jealousy
That woman's body is absolutely perfect. wow.I'm jelous too. I want a body like that.
Not for myself, I want a body like that lying beside me
Alliekit wrote:
My brother is overweight and his girlfriend is a stunning woman who is a size 4 (size 2 in US).
Now I'm green with envy Did this one cause an uproar too?
05 Mar 2017, 4:02 am
XFilesGeek wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
BTDT wrote:
In recent history, men have attracted women by making a lot of money and buying an expensive car to show off their wealth in a very visible manner.
Buying an expensive car is a ridiculous way to show wealth. If a man buys a $100,000 car he shows that he's $100,000 poorer than he was before he bought it. He shows that he's a wastrel. He shows that he can waste a large sum of money instead of investing it. He shows that he's willing to engage in the folly of conspicuous consumption. A man with such ostentatious displays of wealth makes himself a target of thieves. Burglars see the car and go into the house. Don't move in with him. Better to go with a rich guy who drives a plain car. The burglars will pass his house by.
If I was a woman I'd be more attracted to a man with a $100,000 stock portfolio than man with a $100,000 car.
Wow, so judgemental.
So what if a guy likes expensive car and wants to buy one? And even if he only does to show off, what if he likes to show off? There are people who can afford expensive things without having to sell a liver, you know? There are people out there who can buy a luxury car with less impact on their finances than you when you buy a bicycle. This is what being rich means, if you didn't know.
Having an expensive car doesn't mean that you are not able to administrate your money wisely, altough I will admit that some people spend money they don't have.
Besides, RetroGamer, I could say the same thing about a hot girlfriend, which you very much seek to obtain. Why want a hot girlfriend? Many other men will eventually try to take her away from you. Much safer to get a girlfriend who is not as flashy.
05 Mar 2017, 4:22 am
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So a healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard?
Yes Boo. A healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard.See link below
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport
Apperantly the woman in the ad above set an "unrealistic body image".
She does not look underweight to me
I wonder if Mayor Sadiq Khan was bribed by McDonald's to get those ads taken down
Because the woman's body in that add is unachivable by most and is heavily posed and photoshopped.
Just look at this woman
Yes. She's nice. I wouldn't call her fat. It's interesting to note that the girl in the ad doesn't keep her arms away from her body or smile. She doesn't need to twist her body to the side or wear black.
As for her body being "unachievable" I see many women with that kind of body in the train station every morning. I also see a lot of women who are a lot slimmer than her.
I assure you that the women I look at in real life have not been photoshopped.
The woman I shared is a fitness instructor so not its not achievable by everyone no matter how hard you work our and everyone has belly fat and rolls.
Not everyone has belly fat and rolls. I know people who don't.
Personally I don't mind adds with exceptionally good looking people. However, I don't think by unrealistic body image they mean her weight alone. Yes, she's not underweight. Probably has a BMI around 18. But her breasts are quite big for a woman her weight - without plastic surgery this wouldn't be possible for a lot of women. Her waist to hip ratio also is not possible for most women (without constantly wearing a corset).
I think people who mind this advertisement, mind that it implies a woman who does not look like this is not 'beach body ready' and shouldn't show herself in a bikini. It's not primarily about her weight.
Also, her ribcage wouldn't be that well visible if she wasn't pulling her arms back (if she would be lying it'd be well visible but not while she's standing). Pulling her arms back possibly makes her belly look even a bit more fatless than it actually is too (albeit she really has hardly any fat there and definitely no fat rolls). In real life people can't always make sure to have a pose that makes them look more attractive. The photo might additionally also have been taken before she had breakfast/anything to eat that day. How much food is in the intestine can make a noticeable difference in looks but in real life women don't want to make sure they haven't eaten anything yet before showing themselves in a bikini.
While it has nothing to do with beach body it'd also be impossible to constantly have that perfect hair without combing it like every two hours and she happens to have perfect skin (or make-up or photoshop) and her body is perfectly hairless. Most women don't have the time to constantly take that much care of their looks.
You see many women her weight in the train station but you do not see many women with a body like hers. That she's slim probably is a lot more important for how attractive a woman is for you than the size of her breasts or her waist to hip ratio but what the media considers a perfect body is not just a perfect BMI.
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05 Mar 2017, 5:23 am
Peacesells wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
BTDT wrote:
In recent history, men have attracted women by making a lot of money and buying an expensive car to show off their wealth in a very visible manner.
Buying an expensive car is a ridiculous way to show wealth. If a man buys a $100,000 car he shows that he's $100,000 poorer than he was before he bought it. He shows that he's a wastrel. He shows that he can waste a large sum of money instead of investing it. He shows that he's willing to engage in the folly of conspicuous consumption. A man with such ostentatious displays of wealth makes himself a target of thieves. Burglars see the car and go into the house. Don't move in with him. Better to go with a rich guy who drives a plain car. The burglars will pass his house by.
If I was a woman I'd be more attracted to a man with a $100,000 stock portfolio than man with a $100,000 car.
Wow, so judgemental.
So what if a guy likes expensive car and wants to buy one? And even if he only does to show off, what if he likes to show off? There are people who can afford expensive things without having to sell a liver, you know? There are people out there who can buy a luxury car with less impact on their finances than you when you buy a bicycle. This is what being rich means, if you didn't know.
Having an expensive car doesn't mean that you are not able to administrate your money wisely, altough I will admit that some people spend money they don't have.
Besides, RetroGamer, I could say the same thing about a hot girlfriend, which you very much seek to obtain. Why want a hot girlfriend? Many other men will eventually try to take her away from you. Much safer to get a girlfriend who is not as flashy.
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05 Mar 2017, 5:47 am
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05 Mar 2017, 5:49 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So a healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard?
Yes Boo. A healthy weight is now an unrealistic standard.See link below
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport
Apperantly the woman in the ad above set an "unrealistic body image".
She does not look underweight to me
I wonder if Mayor Sadiq Khan was bribed by McDonald's to get those ads taken down
I can understand the jealousy
That woman's body is absolutely perfect. wow.I'm jelous too. I want a body like that.
Not for myself, I want a body like that lying beside me
Alliekit wrote:
My brother is overweight and his girlfriend is a stunning woman who is a size 4 (size 2 in US).
Now I'm green with envy Did this one cause an uproar too?
According to feminist theory, men don't have beauty standards.
05 Mar 2017, 6:03 am
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
BTDT wrote:
In recent history, men have attracted women by making a lot of money and buying an expensive car to show off their wealth in a very visible manner.
Buying an expensive car is a ridiculous way to show wealth. If a man buys a $100,000 car he shows that he's $100,000 poorer than he was before he bought it. He shows that he's a wastrel. He shows that he can waste a large sum of money instead of investing it. He shows that he's willing to engage in the folly of conspicuous consumption. A man with such ostentatious displays of wealth makes himself a target of thieves. Burglars see the car and go into the house. Don't move in with him. Better to go with a rich guy who drives a plain car. The burglars will pass his house by.
If I was a woman I'd be more attracted to a man with a $100,000 stock portfolio than man with a $100,000 car.
Wow, so judgemental.
So what if a guy likes expensive car and wants to buy one? And even if he only does to show off, what if he likes to show off? There are people who can afford expensive things without having to sell a liver, you know? There are people out there who can buy a luxury car with less impact on their finances than you when you buy a bicycle. This is what being rich means, if you didn't know.
Having an expensive car doesn't mean that you are not able to administrate your money wisely, altough I will admit that some people spend money they don't have.
Besides, RetroGamer, I could say the same thing about a hot girlfriend, which you very much seek to obtain. Why want a hot girlfriend? Many other men will eventually try to take her away from you. Much safer to get a girlfriend who is not as flashy.
You talk like a guy with an expensive car most likely hasn't much money in his wallet. I swear, that is some funny stuff!
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05 Mar 2017, 6:29 am
Peacesells wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
BTDT wrote:
In recent history, men have attracted women by making a lot of money and buying an expensive car to show off their wealth in a very visible manner.
Buying an expensive car is a ridiculous way to show wealth. If a man buys a $100,000 car he shows that he's $100,000 poorer than he was before he bought it. He shows that he's a wastrel. He shows that he can waste a large sum of money instead of investing it. He shows that he's willing to engage in the folly of conspicuous consumption. A man with such ostentatious displays of wealth makes himself a target of thieves. Burglars see the car and go into the house. Don't move in with him. Better to go with a rich guy who drives a plain car. The burglars will pass his house by.
If I was a woman I'd be more attracted to a man with a $100,000 stock portfolio than man with a $100,000 car.
So what if a guy likes expensive car and wants to buy one? And even if he only does to show off, what if he likes to show off? There are people who can afford expensive things without having to sell a liver, you know? There are people out there who can buy a luxury car with less impact on their finances than you when you buy a bicycle. This is what being rich means, if you didn't know.
Having an expensive car doesn't mean that you are not able to administrate your money wisely, altough I will admit that some people spend money they don't have.
Besides, RetroGamer, I could say the same thing about a hot girlfriend, which you very much seek to obtain. Why want a hot girlfriend? Many other men will eventually try to take her away from you. Much safer to get a girlfriend who is not as flashy.
05 Mar 2017, 6:37 am
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
BTDT wrote:
In recent history, men have attracted women by making a lot of money and buying an expensive car to show off their wealth in a very visible manner.
Buying an expensive car is a ridiculous way to show wealth. If a man buys a $100,000 car he shows that he's $100,000 poorer than he was before he bought it. He shows that he's a wastrel. He shows that he can waste a large sum of money instead of investing it. He shows that he's willing to engage in the folly of conspicuous consumption. A man with such ostentatious displays of wealth makes himself a target of thieves. Burglars see the car and go into the house. Don't move in with him. Better to go with a rich guy who drives a plain car. The burglars will pass his house by.
If I was a woman I'd be more attracted to a man with a $100,000 stock portfolio than man with a $100,000 car.
So what if a guy likes expensive car and wants to buy one? And even if he only does to show off, what if he likes to show off? There are people who can afford expensive things without having to sell a liver, you know? There are people out there who can buy a luxury car with less impact on their finances than you when you buy a bicycle. This is what being rich means, if you didn't know.
Having an expensive car doesn't mean that you are not able to administrate your money wisely, altough I will admit that some people spend money they don't have.
Besides, RetroGamer, I could say the same thing about a hot girlfriend, which you very much seek to obtain. Why want a hot girlfriend? Many other men will eventually try to take her away from you. Much safer to get a girlfriend who is not as flashy.
Please show me where I wrote that! I don't think they only care about that, but I will say that for a great number of them it's very attractive.
