Living with parents kind of puts the kibosh on dating?

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Um no. Odd thing was, she was under the impression that she could boss me around even though she was living off my income. We had a little chat about this and I let her know in no uncertain terms that she had to give me my space and accept me for how I am if she didn't want to be living in the street.

And she was all huff like *I* was the unreasonable one! Classic example of NT privlige.

Hopefully she didn't have the BS belief that jerking off means you are mentally ill...some of the WW2 gen did think that...

She was pretty rational about it all.

Also did anyone here remind the oldies here that education in our days is far more expensive than in their days and chances of getting a job (not craft) withtout a high defree is almost nil?

College tuitions cost a higher % of one’s income today than 20 years ago. And it’s not only due to inflation but also due to increasing greed.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/how-muc ... -2018.html

I don't disagree with that statement.

But stop knocking the "oldies."

and life costing overall too:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/21/life-is ... rents.html

Life was harder then in some ways than it is now.

Life is harder now in some ways than it was then.

Would you prefer “Elvis'ies”?

The Baby Boomers are not some big amorphous entity that have the same type of opinions. We are individuals.

It's really not right to knock collectives as if they were individuals.

I don't knock the Millennials as a collective, nor any "generation."

I see you as young tho.

I feel young.

I do understand the present realities.

I still believe, if it’s possible, that most young people would benefit from “leaving the nest.”

I don't think greed has increased. More like the ability of some people to satisfy theirs has increased, while that of everyone else has decreased.

Indeed.

There are different levels of existence. We have very little money compared with other people our age and significantly less than what retirees expect to live on. Cost of living in my area isn’t bad at all, so lack of income doesn’t sting quite so bad. Taxes are low, too. And we take advantage of every opportunity people give us to lower school tuition so our kids have a safe place to learn. It may mean living without a lot of extra luxuries. Getting ready for school right now and having dealt with some emergencies through the summer is going to mean we have very little to live on until October. And we’re going to be making less money this next fiscal year.

But it’s going to be ok.

Young people expect to live a comparable lifestyle to what they had growing up. Boomers didn’t have it so bad, BUT there was a slough of emerging technologies and economies back then. They had this mentality of getting fired as being one of the most shameful things that could happen. But a subset of them were anti-establishment and rebellious, too, and they attempted a completely free lifestyle with no boundaries or consequences. They had enough of each other to lean on, so they had support and no worries about where the next meal was coming from. Eventually things became too dangerous and health effects became obvious, so they tended to revert back to their more conservative peers and became independently successful, translating rebellious attitudes into highly effective risk-taking. Both conservatives and liberals had this in common: a better world for their kids in which the kids wouldn’t have to fear unreasonably hard work or uncertainty. There was no behavioral problem that couldn’t be cured with a pill. And those kids developed a massive angst-streak which leaves parents scratching their heads wondering what went wrong. Well...that rugged individualism or collectivism (take your pick) left parents so out of touch with their kids that neither knew who the other was.

It should come as no surprise why my generation, as affluent as many of us are, are so angry all the time. MY kids will never have to deal with that.

So not only are we butthurt that our education was a lie and didn’t make our dreams come true, we teach our children to DEMAND that they get free education and that their instructors make those dreams come true.

Which brings us to the present day. There never was a dream. You got all your instructors fired, or they watered down your education to keep you happy and silent. They brainwashed you into thinking it’s not THEIR fault but it’s always someone else to blame. And you get hired out of fear, too, because they demand to be hired. And when the economy doesn’t support THE JOB you’re supposed to have because some piece of paper (diploma) says so, because companies aren’t going out of their way to make your every dream come true...well, it’s just better to go back home and WAIT for those dreams to happen, for those dream jobs to just open up.

Got a worthless MBA? So what? Go to McDonald’s. Start at the bottom, move up to manager ASAP. Compete. Work as close as you can with the franchise owners, learn the ins and outs of ownership. Then find a wealthy partner interested in opening a franchise. Run it together. Save your money. When the time is right, offer to buy his share and take full ownership, or sell yours out. Take the money and start a new franchise that’s all yours. Save your money. Open another one. Save your money. Sell your restaurants and buy your first hotel. But some fixer-uppers downtown, flip ‘em, and convert them to rentals. Pay your bills and taxes, keep raking in the scrilla.

But no, millennials aren’t taught to think that way.

I moved back home after college while searching for jobs. Found one. Not a good one, but it was a job. Had to move so travel wouldn’t be so bad.

Got fired.

Moved back home for a few weeks looking for the next gig. It was all last minute, but I managed to line something up. It was marginally better. But I had to move to the Delta. Bought a couple houses since. Nothing impressive, but we’ve been in and out of jobs over the duration.

Unfortunately, having more than paid our dues and getting diminishing returns, we’re just not going to be able to make it much longer. Too much time wasted, too many broken promises. So you know what? It’ll be time to move again soon. Seriously, we could double our income just by moving. But that requires a lot of planning and making deals with the right people. And networking.

Are millennials doing this? Moving to a new town every year? Because jobs are out there. Cheap living is out there. Prices went up on rice, but it’s still cheaper than going out for pizza every night. I mean, $10 for 50lbs. And that’ll last you a couple years at least. Seriously, all the carb intake you need for a YEAR, just $10. You expect me to believe this can’t work? Because that IS my life. My whole family’s life.

It really doesn’t take much. Stay on the move. Keep your wits. Stay confident. Don’t back down. Be aggressive. Be ready to endure whatever it takes, just keep moving.

Not really an NT privilege, per se -- it seems common that long after parents are no longer able to support and take care of themselves, and the children have to take their parents in and care for them, the old parent-child dynamic skill exists in the parents' own minds. For example, long after I left my father's home (per his own "request"), he still felt it necessary that I should give him credit for my engineering degrees, my promotions, my awards, and my honorable discharge from military service ...

"... because I'm your FATHER, that's why!"

My grandmother’s generation had it roughest with the Great Depression and WW1/WW2.

My parents generation had it the best with decent paying jobs vs cost of living/housing/education.

Our generation is much worse off financially in terms of.. everything. Besides quality of life, we’re also the first generation to experience a decrease in life expectancy.

Boomers who b***h about Millenials deserve a swift kick in the ass.

Another problem I see with sly (MAYBE, correct me if I’m wrong) is the possibility that his family’s poverty has hijacked his own prospects.

No matter what I say about how I’ll respond to my kids actions as they become adults, I have no way to permanently bind them to us or our house. They can choose to leave and never look back. And there’s nothing I can do to legally change that.

Parents cannot just assume that kids will “do the right thing” and care for them. It’s unreasonable to expect kids to forget about college and career building that takes so much time and sacrifice that you can’t really take on family responsibilities. That’s not fair. Each and every person has to be responsible for seeing to his OWN welfare and planning for worst case scenarios and mitigating catastrophes.

I’ve heard of learned helplessness. But I’ve personally known parents who either taught their children either how to fake disability or they always treated their kids as though they were disabled so that the kids always grew up believing they were. They do it for the exact purpose of having extra income and keeping the lights on. So I dunno if this applies to anyone here, but I wonder if for some being tied to the house isn’t just a way to keep mom and dad from having to work. If so, it’s cruel.

But I would wonder if I were to walk out of a situation such as sly’s, how quickly would my family REALLY end up on the street?