Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men
I unfortunately live in a city where there are lot more males than females of any age, gender ratio imbalance is partly to blame and females are fussy in regards to selecting partners. I browse dating sites and there are frequently 10 guys to every 1 girl online, not much hope at all. In real life it is more like 3 guys to 2 chicks. I have never used Tinder and swiping right on every profile is a bad strategy, this would ensure you do not match up against anyone and wasting a lot of time going nowhere. Plenty of guys online have reported they only get 1 match for every 100 swipes on Tinder, very low ratio and a complete waste of time. The 1 match out of 100 is usually a Tinder Bot to keep the guy on the site.
I am against the use of sex workers because that is nothing more than paying a female to exploit. Transfer of money in a business transaction of a sex worker bypasses the complexity of females selecting guys based on female choice. Paying for sex is the objectification of women and it does not improve a man's confidence/self esteem or emotional issues.
Buy steroids and get jacked may be a far better investment than wasting money on sex workers. But I will still have the negative personality and Autism low confidence/self esteem issues that are hard to overcome. Plastic surgery may improve my face but I will still have emotional issues and poor social skills.
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It's part of the misandrist anti-white movement on the far-left, and it is part of an innate human desire place oneself above others in terms of social value.
Those of us wholly rejected by women are excellent scapegoats as we are already pariahs.
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The longer you go though, the harder it'll get. Inexperience is seen as a red flag in a lot of people.
Society has now placed all shy, quiet, introverted, unattractive men into the same basket as Elliot Rodger and various psychopathic incel mass shooters. Society pressure to not be a male virgin over 18 years of age is creating incels in Western society. Men are now expected to be strong, hard working, cultured, popular, funny, confident men to be regarded as normal to attract women. Incels never had a chance and no matter what they do they will always be incels.
Then how would you explain incels who break out of their inceldom?
It's not as if 18 is the cut-off and if you've never had sex by then, then you necessarily never will.
I accepted at 16 I had no chance, not good looking enough, bad childhood, bullied at school, low self esteem/low confidence and mental health issues. 20 years have passed I am still in the same position when I gave up at 16. Limited female have their choice of unlimited males, females have all the power of choice in regards to dating. Dating applies the principles of choice and capitalism, both have buyers and suppliers, competition, free choice and freedom. Males must be chosen by the females. I was destined to become an incel at a young age. Typical stories of incels sums up my life perfectly. Incels are born, not created by society, individuals have no choice in becoming incels. I simply lost the genetic lottery of life.
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I was 16, and all the things that Aspie19828 was.
Not good-looking, bullied at school, bad childhood, etc.
Yet I took a different tack. I decided: screw the naysayers...I gotta find a way around this using only my “limited self.” I had my bad moments, sure......but I’ve been able to “get around it.” Girls became women, and matured, and realized there was more to a good, relationship-worthy guy than being cool, being a jock.
Screw the plastic surgery. Screw even the gym just to get girls. Screw all the “pills.” Screw the Incel movement. If chicks don’t like me because Im awkward, etc....screw them, too!
I rely on “being me,” and not being desperate to get a girl for the sake of “getting a girl.”
Just treat women like people. You will make more progress that way. No MGTOW, pickup artist crap!
Just be enough of a man to know that YOUR SELF is enough for most decent women.
Being an incel I do not approach women in real life. I never ask them out, I can sense women fear me. Being Autistic, I avoid eye contact when talking to people. I hate awkwardly staring at people that scares them even more and is intimidating. I do not understand body language and failing to pick up on social cues and change in tone of voice. I hate being Autistic and being such a social ret*d.
From a young age I have always had low confidence/low self esteem, an anti-social nerd that refused talk to anyone may has set me up for failure in life. Early bad life experiences have set the course of a miserable, lonely, being an invisible ghost that no one knows exist. Depression, social isolation and extreme social anxiety are other issues I have with Autism.
I don’t know you, nor what you look like. So I can’t answer whether you’re not “good enough.” But the likelihood is that you are “good enough.”
Even the Hunchback of Notre Dame was “good enough.”
You’ve established for yourself a life pattern.
You’re not an old man. You can create a new pattern, based upon a more realistic view of yourself, and a more realistic view of women.
You can meet women online who understand you, and whom you understand.
Perhaps even on WP.
Talk about your family, interests. Avoid politics/religion unless she brings it up.
Talk to her like you would your buddy (minus talk about chicks lol)
Don’t talk about how lonely for women you are.
Maybe not the best example, considering he died alone and miserable (and by suicide), while the object of his extremely unrequited affection is only interested in a married man who's only using her for sex on the side.
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I don't have any opinions about virgin men. I only judge them based on their attitude and how they act. The moment I hear about someone being an incel, it gives me a bad picture in my head but say virgin, I picture a guy who has not ever gotten laid. Words have different meanings so it gives you a different picture in your head based on what terms are used. Plus if a label has been given a bad name, people are going to get a negative picture in their head.
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It isn't though. If it was we wouldn't be lonely and dateless, lol.
Perhaps even on WP.
Really? I mean.... really? The women on WP are either taken, boring, or misandrists-in-denial. Typically a combination of the three.
Of course I've heard of male virgins, perpetually single men who are unhappy with their situation, men who can't get sex and lonely men before, but before those killings happened I've never heard any of them being called or calling themselves incels. I suppose, the term might have been around a bit before those killings and incel forums promoting violence, but as far as I know (I may be wrong, English isn't my mother tongue) it wasn't known to the public before it was associated with violence.
I agree that the issues of male virgins and lonely men are not talked about often and tend to be ignored. There's nothing wrong with you wanting more awareness for them. I do not see how using the term 'incel' to refer to them is helping your cause though.
It's not always easy to tell on the internet, but most people I've seen talk about the violence of incels actually seemed to mean an extremist subgroup of men who can't get sex, not all men who can't get sex.
Unfortunately, the "inceldom" radicalization is part of the result of society not in a helpful way addressing or ignoring the issue of perpetual single men and male virgins. Sometimes it takes so much bullying and isolation to cause someone to lash out or be radicalized into extreme ideologies.
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From a young age I have always had low confidence/low self esteem, an anti-social nerd that refused talk to anyone may has set me up for failure in life. Early bad life experiences have set the course of a miserable, lonely, being an invisible ghost that no one knows exist. Depression, social isolation and extreme social anxiety are other issues I have with Autism.
Yep same I've had chronic depression from age 5 and no friend to date that didn't get sick of that friendship.
Understand my man that you didn't get dealt 100% s**t, look for the things you are strong at and focus on those. For me it is making money, learning, and creating system and market models.
No woman I find attractive may ever want to be with me, and that may continue for the rest of my life - but when I have $10milUSD in 10 years from now, my time will be better spent then going on a bunch of sh***y ass dates cause the chicks liked my man tits and sweet tats.
I'll clone myself when it gets legalized if I feel the urge for kids.
Find what you are great at and do it, those of us men without families have created all the greatest works throughout history be it art, sciences, philosophy, war, poetry. Precisely because we have the time to fully develop our greatness if we can find it.
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