05 Sep 2011, 6:54 pm
05 Sep 2011, 6:54 pm
Fatal-Noogie wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Fatal-Noogie wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
PUA is not really a challenge in any sense either. a challenge would mean that a man could say or do the right things that would open any desired women's legs. but that isn't the case... PUA simply weed out the unwilling women to score the small handful that are willing to do it (or who are vulnerable to the men's manipulations). so it's a lot more like picking off the vulnerable members of the herd as opposed to winning any sort of game. sure, then the hunter can eat, but is that really the desired catch?
So le'mme get this straight...Women who want to have sex and act consistent with that desire, are the "vulnerable members of the herd".
What do you have such a grudge against women who enjoy sex?
what? no. those are two different types of women. do you see the "or" in what i have written? i bolded it for you.
i could not care less if women have sex with lots of men. good god, i've done similar and i have no ill feelings about it. no grudges here.
Still, it is not so absurd to call what PUAs do a game.
(I won't justify or rationalize right or wrong. I'm just going to stick to a literal interpretation.)
Here's a web definition of "game"
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a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators.
It is competitive between men. If a man gets a girlfriend/SO, that means fewer women for the other men to compete for, so these men have some incentive to see other men loose.
It involves skill and chance. A magician who uses misdirection and timing is using skill. So are PUAs.
I think the the amusement itself is part of their incentive for PUAs.
As for rules ... that's debatable.
I agree here, but lets not get lost on the point that was originally made when PUA was brought up in the first place which is that there are quite a few snippets in PUA literature that are very useful for a man wishing to make himself attractive to a woman, thus enabling him to date a woman that he feels is compatible with and being able to anticipate interest and reciprocate accordingly.
We should definitely not become PUAs, but we can certainly glean some positives from their derided dogma.
Rather than the accepted pot-luck scenario where you fall into a relationship by accident or doing the friend-zoner stuff (there was just that.....that spark, you know?). You still have to a develop and amplify the attractive parts of your personality, and I believe that PUA literature is actually a useful source of information on how to do that
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05 Sep 2011, 6:59 pm
TheygoMew wrote:
Fatal-Noogie wrote:
TheygoMew wrote:
Fatal Noogie: The same question could be asked to men who want to have sex with women and once they do declare them as sluts or "easy" so it's mostly men who on one hand hate a woman for not putting out but then hate the woman who does put out.
I checked hyperlexian's profile. It says "Gender: Female"Then you started stereotyping women who like sex as aids carriers, TheygoMew.
Yet you imply that because I'm a man I have to be responsible for slander from other men thrown against women who "put out",
while you yourself throw slander against women who "put out".
Who's calling the kettle black anyway?
You are trying to twist it in your own narrow view to point blame at me the female.
I didn't say all easy women had aids but the risk is there. Way to try to distort. Is that how you carry on in your life? I can already tell you are one who assumes no responsibility for your actions.
I don't make those moral judgements because I guess I'm not as cynical about others' lifestyles as you.
You didn't say all women, but you keep stereotyping women who like to have sex with multiple partners as aids carriers. (You even did it again as I was typing my comment. Way to run the point into the ground.)
05 Sep 2011, 7:47 pm
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