Why are women so triggered by the friendzone?

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15 Sep 2017, 7:41 pm

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Seeing as you like to play on semantics to win your non-existing arguments I'm going to say that it was never impossible, but for the most part never considered for its taboo nature and peoples' unwillingness to challenge it.

EDIT: The above was obviously aimed at SJWjrjones, but the below is in response to the previous poster who managed to get in 30 seconds before me as I was finishing my post:

Yes, he has a habit of creating new problems to deal with where he is the solution to them, rather than fixing the existing ones in a way that actually helps the people discussing them. Don't fret, this is a fetish of his.


I'm so confused is this about the rape?



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15 Sep 2017, 7:46 pm

No, just how he brought that topic in here rather than debating the actual topic.


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15 Sep 2017, 7:48 pm

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No, just how he brought that topic in here rather than debating the actual topic.


LOL Wait WAS HE trolling holy s**t i took that bait well. I didn't realize that, I was like how did we get to the point of supporting rape....



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15 Sep 2017, 7:50 pm

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I'm so confused is this about the rape?

He's trolling, and can't read well.

Can't read history if he doesn't know about spousal exceptions to rape laws.


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15 Sep 2017, 7:55 pm

SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
TheSpectrum wrote:
No, just how he brought that topic in here rather than debating the actual topic.


LOL Wait WAS HE trolling holy s**t i took that bait well. I didn't realize that, I was like how did we get to the point of supporting rape....


You said all rapists have bad minds, and can't be judged by normal standards. That makes it impossible for a normal person to commit rape, which actually happens. It's called rape culture.


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15 Sep 2017, 8:05 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
A better assumption would be the average rapist

What about an amazing rapist?



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15 Sep 2017, 8:09 pm

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jrjones9933 wrote:
A better assumption would be the average rapist

What about an amazing rapist?

11/10 would bang against my will


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15 Sep 2017, 9:49 pm

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I really don't understand what's so horrible about the friendzone.
I was friendzoned a few times and two of those times were the beginning of good, solid friendships.
I value friendships as high as romantic relationships, so it wasn't a problem at all.


I struggle being friends with people in general, let alone men I have feelings for. Having feelings for them adds an extra dimension of awkwardness to social interaction.

Likewise but for women



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15 Sep 2017, 10:29 pm

This thread has turned a madhouse apparently powered by caffeine and personal agendas. WTH guys?

Also, how has no mod deleted this entire nightmare from existence yet?



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16 Sep 2017, 1:45 am

Edit: Can see how this can be distasteful, regardless if whoever reports it does so under a pretense.


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16 Sep 2017, 1:56 am

bobchaos wrote:
This thread has turned a madhouse apparently powered by caffeine and personal agendas. WTH guys?

Also, how has no mod deleted this entire nightmare from existence yet?


I honestly suspected that a little more than caffeine was involved :wink:



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16 Sep 2017, 2:10 am

bobchaos wrote:
This thread has turned a madhouse apparently powered by caffeine and personal agendas. WTH guys?

Also, how has no mod deleted this entire nightmare from existence yet?


why bother? whatever we do we'll be lynched.

I'm gone from this place.



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16 Sep 2017, 2:19 am

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Nope...men are never "owed" sex.

Neither are women.

Even in marriage.

I once had a girlfriend who said I must make love to her six times a week in order to "fulfill my quota." I didn't like that too much.

I have a too high sex drive but that'd putt me off.



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16 Sep 2017, 3:41 am

Booyakasha wrote:
bobchaos wrote:
This thread has turned a madhouse apparently powered by caffeine and personal agendas. WTH guys?

Also, how has no mod deleted this entire nightmare from existence yet?


why bother? whatever we do we'll be lynched.

I'm gone from this place.


It's a thankless and unpaid job anyway- I wonder why anyone would want to be a mod. lol



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16 Sep 2017, 7:14 am

Booyakasha wrote:
why bother? whatever we do we'll be lynched.

I'm gone from this place.


Guys, you even broke the mods :O

Sorry you feel that way Booyakasha, best I can say is that for every idiot lynching you there's likely hundreds of us quietly approving and cheering. Thanks for the efforts you put in these forums, I assure you they haven't gone unnoticed, but I can't blame you if you want out cuz

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's a thankless and unpaid job anyway- I wonder why anyone would want to be a mod. lol


***edit*** TheSpectrum, I assure you I'd never hit that report button, that would deprive me of the entertainment that is watching this ridiculous conversation unfold ;) Stuff about cups and rape and whatnot, it's priceless XD I gotta be honest, I was in a really s**t mood when I posted that and I was kinda trolling, I shouldn't do that tho it's not cool. Sorry :(



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16 Sep 2017, 10:59 am

Read back, and note that I'm not the one who brought up rape. I offered a plausible explanation for the connection, and no one has meaningfully refuted it. Calling me an idiot SJW troll fetishish, etc. refutes nothing.

If calling out bigotry gets conflated with name calling, that will benefit the bigots tremendously. The bigots want to say they only state facts, but they have facts and beliefs confused, and often don't know the difference between personal experience and statistics (this is easy to check by reading their posts). Am I attacking them by pointing this out? I feel like I have attacked their arguments by going after the beliefs which underlie those arguments, but they take it personally and respond with clear personal attacks.

This thread seems to involve a few real issues that we can debate:

Does the word friendzone carry a lot of baggage based on its origins and popular usage? PF wants to create a hypothetical where the person who uses it exists outside that history and gets unjustifiably attacked for using it. I don't know what that accomplishes, but okay, the guy is innocent. From here forward, lets discuss people who actually exist.

Hordes of women lie in wait for that innocent man to use the word. Rather than engage in a discussion about the history and implications, they tear him to shreds on the spot. Does this ever happen in reality?

Has everyone who uses the term unpacked the history and implications, and do they understand their own psychology well enough to critique their own selfish motivations? I think the answer is obviously not. Do they intend to make an effort to examine both? Sadly, same answer. Easier to just call someone who asks the question names and ignore the questions.


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