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18 Oct 2017, 3:32 am

Also if like to add. I'm glad that my Dad is my Dad. He brought me and my sister up to believe we can do anything we set our minds to.

Sometimes we ask him for help with a task and he encourages us to do it ourselves because we are capable enough.

He never treated us like we were less able or intelligent because we are female.



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18 Oct 2017, 3:40 am

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I'm still attracted to men. I still want one, but i'd rather not. The ones left over seem to be bitter and filled with conspiracy theories about women.

This forum puts me off internet dating. I don't want to interview screeds of bitter men with bizarre ideas about women.

Im actually sort of going on a date on Saturday. He's a decent guy, very pleasant. I know people he knows and they say good things about him.

I'll never not be attracted to men. It still depresses me to be alone. But the darkness I see in relationships and in how men judge women makes me think I'm safer on my own.

Genius, jump off the crocodiles!

You are right, reading this forum could be depressing if I didn't know quite a lot of decent men IRL.
Good luck and have fun on Saturday!


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18 Oct 2017, 3:55 am

I think it’s wise to be put off internet people. From my experience the internet has about triple the psychos than I come across in real life. Some lunatic from here 10 years ago still sends me rape and death threats when I opposed to some of the abusive messages he’d been sending females who said they weren’t interested in dating him as they were married. My advice to young women on here would be stay away.



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18 Oct 2017, 4:04 am

Everyone matures emotionally at their own pace. It is fine to orient towards dating an age group that wouldn't put you in danger of maltreatment , just remember that this concept is true for your potential partner as well.


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18 Oct 2017, 4:20 am

Psychos on the internet may not appear so in real life.



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18 Oct 2017, 4:23 am

magz wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I'm still attracted to men. I still want one, but i'd rather not. The ones left over seem to be bitter and filled with conspiracy theories about women.

This forum puts me off internet dating. I don't want to interview screeds of bitter men with bizarre ideas about women.

Im actually sort of going on a date on Saturday. He's a decent guy, very pleasant. I know people he knows and they say good things about him.

I'll never not be attracted to men. It still depresses me to be alone. But the darkness I see in relationships and in how men judge women makes me think I'm safer on my own.

Genius, jump off the crocodiles!

You are right, reading this forum could be depressing if I didn't know quite a lot of decent men IRL.
Good luck and have fun on Saturday!


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If you wanted to be fair, you would realize that it goes both ways. There are guys on this forum, who have never been on a date their whole lives, you go on dates all the time hurtloam and I'm supposed to feel bad for you? Or your girlfriends who get rejected because they try to punch way above their own weight?

Again that goes both ways, I see darkness in relationships and the way women judge men. The way both genders judge eachother is nauseating.

I honestly don't know what I have ever said that would classify as a conspiracy theory.



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18 Oct 2017, 4:39 am

Closet Genious wrote:
magz wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I'm still attracted to men. I still want one, but i'd rather not. The ones left over seem to be bitter and filled with conspiracy theories about women.

This forum puts me off internet dating. I don't want to interview screeds of bitter men with bizarre ideas about women.

Im actually sort of going on a date on Saturday. He's a decent guy, very pleasant. I know people he knows and they say good things about him.

I'll never not be attracted to men. It still depresses me to be alone. But the darkness I see in relationships and in how men judge women makes me think I'm safer on my own.

Genius, jump off the crocodiles!

You are right, reading this forum could be depressing if I didn't know quite a lot of decent men IRL.
Good luck and have fun on Saturday!


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If you wanted to be fair, you would realize that it goes both ways. There are guys on this forum, who have never been on a date their whole lives, you go on dates all the time hurtloam and I'm supposed to feel bad for you? Or your girlfriends who get rejected because they try to punch way above their own weight?

Again that goes both ways, I see darkness in relationships and the way women judge men. The way both genders judge eachother is nauseating.

I honestly don't know what I have ever said that would classify as a conspiracy theory.


I don't go on dates all the time lol. You're relatively new so don't know how long I've been using this board as a hopeless single. I never get asked out. I'm the one who invited this guy out and he was happy to accept. That has not happened in years. It's not even a proper date. He can't drive at the moment so I've invited a couple of friends so he can get to where we are meeting. It's a start.

You're just assuming things. My friends aren't punching above their weight. We're just average middle of the road people meeting other average middle of the road people.

Ah one did fancy my bro in law's friend and i'd say she was punching above her weight because she's a lot less intelligent than him even though she had a better job than him at the time. There's no way he'd have gone out with her. She wouldnt have satisfied him conversationally.

That's the only time I've felt a bit sad/uncomfortable/embarrassed when a friend has disclosed she's interested in someone.

I don't think you're as bad on the conspiracy theory stuff. I can see from your posts you've had bad experiences and of course you're going to be very cautious now.



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18 Oct 2017, 4:48 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Psychos on the internet may not appear so in real life.


I know I learned that lesson earlier in the year with that guy I liked at my work. Befriended him on facebook and discovered all his negative attitudes about life 8O



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18 Oct 2017, 4:58 am

I want to be honest, yes, I must sound creepy sometimes here. IRL men just know they won't get anywhere with me (I'm married), so they don't ask some questions. Or they are strange freaks who ask and don't get the answer personally.

You are not conspiracy theory believer, don't you remember? You and Boo have been diagnosed sociopaths!
I once advised Sometime World to marry an Ukrainian girl but he ignored my advice :( I mean it, a lot of Ukrainians are great matches for someone eager to have a traditional European wife, nice, beautiful and cooking. You just need to go there and look for someone compatibile with you in all the rest. Or travel to rural Russia and other remote parts of Eastern Europe (not big cities, big cities are too western-like). Travel there. Know the people. Talk to them. IRL.


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18 Oct 2017, 5:02 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Psychos on the internet may not appear so in real life.


At least they’re easier to deal with. I’ve never once had a death or rape threat from a real life person. If they think that and don’t act on it in real life, it’s not my problem. If they do, they go to prison so it’s adequate punishment, as opposed to the internet, which has no repercussions.



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18 Oct 2017, 5:07 am

Funny you should mention the intelligent man. Women appear to be very drawn to intelligent over average. Case in point, I know a very aspie person who is very different, looking and the way he acts. He is also extremely intelligent and has no problems on dating sites. People love an intelligent, interesting conversation. As someone who has guinea pigged men and women on dating sites for years, intelligence and decent conversational skills are lacking in the messages 98% of men send.

The two aspie men I enjoy talking to on a regular basis are both extremely intelligent. One is an intellectual genius, the other, a master of perception and awareness. Both wonderful in their own way. I’m quite picky though, I get bored of average intelligence very easily. I can’t converse with low at all really.



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18 Oct 2017, 5:36 am

hurtloam wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
magz wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I'm still attracted to men. I still want one, but i'd rather not. The ones left over seem to be bitter and filled with conspiracy theories about women.

This forum puts me off internet dating. I don't want to interview screeds of bitter men with bizarre ideas about women.

Im actually sort of going on a date on Saturday. He's a decent guy, very pleasant. I know people he knows and they say good things about him.

I'll never not be attracted to men. It still depresses me to be alone. But the darkness I see in relationships and in how men judge women makes me think I'm safer on my own.

Genius, jump off the crocodiles!

You are right, reading this forum could be depressing if I didn't know quite a lot of decent men IRL.
Good luck and have fun on Saturday!


Jumps

If you wanted to be fair, you would realize that it goes both ways. There are guys on this forum, who have never been on a date their whole lives, you go on dates all the time hurtloam and I'm supposed to feel bad for you? Or your girlfriends who get rejected because they try to punch way above their own weight?

Again that goes both ways, I see darkness in relationships and the way women judge men. The way both genders judge eachother is nauseating.

I honestly don't know what I have ever said that would classify as a conspiracy theory.


I don't go on dates all the time lol. You're relatively new so don't know how long I've been using this board as a hopeless single. I never get asked out. I'm the one who invited this guy out and he was happy to accept. That has not happened in years. It's not even a proper date. He can't drive at the moment so I've invited a couple of friends so he can get to where we are meeting. It's a start.

You're just assuming things. My friends aren't punching above their weight. We're just average middle of the road people meeting other average middle of the road people.

Ah one did fancy my bro in law's friend and i'd say she was punching above her weight because she's a lot less intelligent than him even though she had a better job than him at the time. There's no way he'd have gone out with her. She wouldnt have satisfied him conversationally.

That's the only time I've felt a bit sad/uncomfortable/embarrassed when a friend has disclosed she's interested in someone.

I don't think you're as bad on the conspiracy theory stuff. I can see from your posts you've had bad experiences and of course you're going to be very cautious now.


You're right, I'm sorry. I got the impression you were a player hurtloam.

I am both cautious, but honestly also bitter. Because I've wasted 5 years of my life working dead end jobs, and trying to make money doing audio engineering. Which now has the consequence of going to uni late in life, and being broke for all of my 20's. I am starting medical school in august next year, which means I won't start making any money before I am 31..

It's very discouraging, that no matter what other qualites I may have, my stupid choices have screwed things up for me. I like to think I am fairly attractive, in very good shape, have a good work ethic, not too stupid, I've done alot of volunteer work, and like to think I am not too bad of a person. But all of that seems to be cancelled out, because of the money issue, when it comes to the women I am attracted to. If I just wanted a girlfriend, that probably wouldn't be too hard, but ideally I would want someone who was loyal, honest and intellectually stimulating.



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18 Oct 2017, 5:44 am

hale_bopp wrote:
intelligence and decent conversational skills are lacking in the messages 98% of men send.


No wonder. Intelligence and conversational skills are completely different things and seldom do they intersect.



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18 Oct 2017, 6:05 am

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Funny you should mention the intelligent man. Women appear to be very drawn to intelligent over average. Case in point, I know a very aspie person who is very different, looking and the way he acts. He is also extremely intelligent and has no problems on dating sites. People love an intelligent, interesting conversation. As someone who has guinea pigged men and women on dating sites for years, intelligence and decent conversational skills are lacking in the messages 98% of men send.

The two aspie men I enjoy talking to on a regular basis are both extremely intelligent. One is an intellectual genius, the other, a master of perception and awareness. Both wonderful in their own way. I’m quite picky though, I get bored of average intelligence very easily. I can’t converse with low at all really.


I'll bite. Because I hear other girls say this often then when I ask for context it usually means game.

But sure are you talking about conversations like politics? Or are you saying you want a guy to keep a conversation exciting and fresh and not be boring and mundane like, "seen any good movies lately?"



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18 Oct 2017, 6:06 am

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It's very discouraging, that no matter what other qualites I may have, my stupid choices have screwed things up for me. I like to think I am fairly attractive, in very good shape, have a good work ethic, not too stupid, I've done alot of volunteer work, and like to think I am not too bad of a person. But all of that seems to be cancelled out, because of the money issue, when it comes to the women I am attracted to.

So much about the famous Scandinavian social equality.


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18 Oct 2017, 6:12 am

magz wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
It's very discouraging, that no matter what other qualites I may have, my stupid choices have screwed things up for me. I like to think I am fairly attractive, in very good shape, have a good work ethic, not too stupid, I've done alot of volunteer work, and like to think I am not too bad of a person. But all of that seems to be cancelled out, because of the money issue, when it comes to the women I am attracted to.

So much about the famous Scandinavian social equality.


What?