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I don't know either. When I was in school from 9 - 3 every day I sure as hell didn't want to go to work after being in school. Having a job while being in high school would be exhausting. When do they even do their assignments? After midnight?

Yeah! And school isn't a right either! That's why families who want to send their kids to school should have to pay for it themselves! Their kids schooling shouldn't be paid for by my tax dollars! /sarcasm

I was went into a KFC and the guy running the counter was clearly a family man. I saw a wedding ring and he looked like the type to have children too. He wasn't a manager either just a regular worker. Where I live, it is common to see this. Heck, you mentioned $20 an hour: factoring in the conversion factor, you practically need a Master's Degree in an in demand field to make more than that around here! I have a University Degree and two College Diplomas and still don't make that much.

Boy am I glad I don't live where you live. I guess I'm lucky to make more than that when, regrettably I've never been to university. My wage, converted to USD is 21.40 per hour.. Where I live someone with just a bachelor degree fresh out of college could make about 20% more than that (or double with enough experience).

Judging by the way you dodged by question, I'll assume mommy, daddy, and Uncle Sam paid for your degree.

Way to go.

Let me put it another way: when I applied for my current job (2 positions were available) they had 480 people apply for the job. I recently applied for a term (i.e. not permanent) job in my union and there were over 200 qualified candidates!! Heck my wife told me they advertised a six month job where she works and they had a dentist, a nuclear scientist, a Ph.D and about a hundred other people with multiple degrees apply. For a temporary job that paid about $25/hour.

I will never forget graduating with a Economics Degree expecting to make about $40,000/yr to start at a bank. I interviewed for a job with Scotiabank (which is one of the richest, most profitable companies in Canada) and the recruiter said to me "we pay (barely over minimum wage) to start, you move where we tell you to move and you can be moved every 6 months (across Canada)..... if you want this job you should offer to work for free at a branch for a while." The guy was a complete arrogant a-hole so I though he was just full of it. He wasn't. I stayed working in my retail job for another 4 years after graduating. I have since never met anyone who actually got a job with just one Degree unless it was in Healthcare or Engineering.

I wish I went to Alberta when their economy was booming. I could have literally walked into any business that paid $20/hr, ask for and probably get a job on the spot. I am at the point where my office looks like a lawyer with all my credentials but I can't even get an interview WITH MY OWN ORGANIZATION!! !!

If you don't have a degree you are pretty much SOL. Costco for example gets close to 1000 applications for every one person they hire around here and they pay less than I make. Apparently taxi drivers must pay well though: every third house in my neighbourhood is owned by a cabbie.

But you don’t know if he had a better job before and lost it and is now working at kfc, or if he has children.
The median hourly income is $20 here though. That’s what women want. Seems a lot of people work for the university and hospitals here. Maybe being a university city raises the bar a lot mor then yiur area, I imagine women in Harvard must all expect men to have phds and high paying jobs.

Here’s some data about my area

Eugene median household income is $47,318
Median rent is 950

Springfield median household income :$39,729
House rent $819
For population 25 years and over in Eugene:
High school or higher: 93.1%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 40.9%
Graduate or professional degree: 17.4%
Unemployed: 6.2%
Mean travel time to work (commute): 17.8 minutes
For population 15 years and over in Eugene city:
Never married: 42.9%
Now married: 40.4%
Separated: 1.3%
Widowed: 3.5%
Divorced: 11.9%


Springfield(my city)
For population 25 years and over in Springfield:
High school or higher: 86.2%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 15.9%
Graduate or professional degree: 4.6%
Unemployed: 6.7%
Mean travel time to work (commute): 18.8 minutes
For population 15 years and over in Springfield city:
Never married: 34.4%
Now married: 43.3%
Separated: 1.6%
Widowed: 5.1%
Divorced: 15.6%


My county living wage calculations
http://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/41039
I make two dollars more then what is calculated for two working adults.
I’d have to make about $24 and hour to be most women’s idea man to provide for one child and non working wife.
population with disabilities.
Eugene 9.4%
Springfield 14.1%
Eugene is 24.4% in poverty.
Mine is 21.5%

Labor force
Eugene: 60%
Springfield: 65%

I’m sol. I can’t move departments at work and I’ve been here two years.

Cabbies make good if they forge their books.thisnguy I know did that and made good money. However they have to repair and maintain their car, pay for all the gas use and buy their car, unless they work for a company providing cars but then their pay is cut a lot.

Costco here pays like 18 or more I think, 14/15 starting out. But Walmart pays about 14 for wearhouse and 12 for rest. I make 11 at my store. Min age is 9,75. I’m making starting wage that security make and then can go up the 17/18 which is also how much a mechanic makes later in career but they buy hundreds of thousands of dollars in tools.

I couldn’t get hire at Costco , it’s for best as there’s no bus to Costco.

'That's what women want' I want a genuine Tiger-moth (it's a biplane) that doesn't mean I'll ever get it. And why would you be providing for one child and a non working wife? Are you going around saying that? then we have the answer as to why you seem to be attracting the wrong kind of women.

I'm not a fan of splitting the bills 50/50 but all the responsibilities of your life together should be shared, as in you should both be contributing in all ways to the best of your abilities. If that doesn't cover everything then it is the responsibility of the state (that's what we call the government, the official collective) to provide the rest.

'most woman's ideal man' ? lol there is no such thing.

I find it funny but annoying how women here constantly seek for a reason why it’s the guys fault he’s rejected all the time rather then just admiring its women who reject him fault.
No I don’t talk to women in person. No I don’t want a housewife though seems a lot of women don’t want to work after they have kids otherwise if they make good money they don’t need a guy to make enough to provide for them.

I make half has much as a woman working min wage. So I’d never be able to contribute half. That’s why women reject me. It’s that simple. I don’t make $20+ and hour and anything less is unacceptable to them even ones making min wage or unemployed.
These women say it openly and proudly. If men don’t make enough then they aren’t good enough.

I doubt really doubt most women idea guy is someone on disability working part time min wage. No they dream of middle class guys and middle class lifestyle, vacations to Europe, a 4 bedroom house, 2-4 cars, maybe a beach house, multiple big screen TVs etc. I don’t think any woman desires low class life. So why would they settle for s low class or poor guy which will mean being stuck in low class forever?

I get maybe $900 a month from work and someone working min wage full time makes 1600 a month. So I make about half of them. Most women make 2,000-4,000 a month.
A guy making $20 an hour is 3,200 a month.

I’ve never meet a woman locally who makes under 1600. I don’t think there’s any women in my age range on disability in my area. And aside from unemployed women who also seem to be a rarity those are the only ones who’d make the same or less then me. I’m literally bottom of the barrel. Honestly every business I go to is 75% women employees. Most banks and fast food are 95% female. My bank is 100% female employees. The fast food places near me habe one male employee each he’s the cook.
I dont know if they track that but honest I doubt many women aren’t employed whole a lot of males are. Hence my problem. Feminism worked quite well here it seems. Women are working and going to college are far greater numbers then men, and we have more men in my age range, so what you have is a lot of well paid working women and slot of underpaid or unemployed men who didn’t go to college. Is it any wonder then why there’s a lot of high standards women complaining there no men to date?

Or more likely he doesn't have a degree at all.

Are those figures all in Canadian dollars? I ask so I can convert them to AUD.

So a bachelor's degree isn't professional? In that case there's no hope for me. Even if I get a bachelor's degree I still won't be professional. I'll need a grad degree as well.

No to the us government I guess.

Correct. Whats worse is that I live in an area where construction is literally everywhere. How the heck can anyone afford all these thousands of new luxury condos when its ao hard to find a career?

Wow, that's worse than I thought. There's only a couple of cents difference between the Australian dollar and the Canadian dollar.

Converted to Canadian dollars I get $27 per hour. Honestly I'm damned lucky to get that without a degree. It was more luck than skill. Don't think my good fortune is lost on me.

There's a lot of condos going up around me too. I I want to buy into one in five or ten years. I want to live in the CBD, preferably above the tenth floor. If I do a very good job of handling my money than I might have a chance of being able to get one.