The irrational standards women have toward men

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06 Jan 2018, 8:43 am

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I never said nor I claimed to be better than anyone here. All this childish bragging like some of you did in this thread to make a point is pure misconception and wrong understanding. You've been a forum member here since 2004 and I'm pretty sure you're a lot older than me which should make you a more mature person, which you might be but it doesn't reflect on your comments and internet behavior.


Well, I'm not sure what you expect when you post comments in a thread making gross and inaccurate generalisations about the opposite sex.

Am I perfect? GOD NO. Am I close to being perfect? CHRIST NO. Am I even half way to being perfect? GOOD LORD NO. One of my downfalls is my fury. I'm more than happy to admit my short comings. Maybe some of the men here who constantly moan about women like a broken record need to do the same thing. Maybe I just need to stop trying to teach people a lesson, and let them fall on their own faces relationship wise. This was an insightful comment from you, and I appreciate it. I don't however condone some of the other stuff you've posted in here.



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06 Jan 2018, 8:45 am

Angry radioactive Vibes incoming!!

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06 Jan 2018, 8:48 am

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Angry radioactive Vibes incoming!!

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Just call me solar fart.



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06 Jan 2018, 8:56 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Angry radioactive Vibes incoming!!

**ALARM**


Just call me solar fart.


I thought of it, but I realized it sounds rude.



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06 Jan 2018, 9:00 am

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For her to understand and believe these things you'd first learn how to reference a scientific study properly.


I never claimed it to be a scientific study but it's not an anecdotal evidence like a lot of you claimed to be. If it was scientific then It wouldn't worth a discussion since science makes facts which don't fall into the discussion category.

We can't discuss about if 1+1 really counts as 2 since it's an universal fact while this topic was intended to discuss a less defined subject.

I am not really talking about anecdotal evidence. You mentioned some studies, none forced you to, and you just gave us some crappy pic to back up your argument. You're clearly at fault here.

Besides if you talk about studies of course we assume them to be professional and conducted in a scientific manner, otherwise it's just lame BS.



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06 Jan 2018, 9:12 am

@Hale_bopp: You need to define what the hell you mean by class, because you're being vague, and you honestly sound like someone who just read a celeb gossip magasine..

The best predictor of success(income and education) is IQ, not social class.



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06 Jan 2018, 9:22 am

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@Hale_bopp: You need to define what the hell you mean by class, because you're being vague, and you honestly sound like someone who just read a celeb gossip magasine..

The best predictor of success(income and education) is IQ, not social class.


People are talking about social class, not "the best predictor of success and income." Sly is constantly batting on about "Class".

I've already defined what I'm talking about. Social class, and what indicates it.

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06 Jan 2018, 9:53 am

So much love in the air.



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06 Jan 2018, 9:56 am

There's lots of social mobility everywhere. People are born "working class" all the time, yet, through education, rise into the "professional" classes.

My mother was born in a poverty/working class environment. She is now a psychoanalyst, and squarely in the professional classes.

This is the same thing as the concept of genetics being but the framework of the building, and environment/life experiences making the building complete and possibly beautiful. Peoples' lives are like the ongoing construction of a cathedral. We are not stuck in our steel or wood frameworks.



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06 Jan 2018, 10:02 am

hale_bopp wrote:
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@Hale_bopp: You need to define what the hell you mean by class, because you're being vague, and you honestly sound like someone who just read a celeb gossip magasine..

The best predictor of success(income and education) is IQ, not social class.


People are talking about social class, not "the best predictor of success and income." Sly is constantly batting on about "Class".

I've already defined what I'm talking about, dimwit. Social class, and what indicates it.


All you said is that net income doesn't define class. But you still haven't defined what you mean by social class.



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06 Jan 2018, 10:09 am

There is the notion of the "nouveau riche"-- wherein a person might recently have become rich, yet still appears to people with "older money" to be somebody who is crude and lacks "class."

The "nouveau riche" person is not "admitted" into the upper classes unless that person exhibits behavior which transcends all the "crudeness" of the "lower classes."

Trump is seen as being of that type: rich, but crude.



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06 Jan 2018, 10:13 am

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There is the notion of the "nouveau riche"-- wherein a person might recently have become rich, yet still appears to people with "older money" to be somebody who is crude and lacks "class."

The "nouveau riche" person is not "admitted" into the upper classes unless that person exhibits behavior which transcends all the "crudeness" of the "lower classes."

Trump is seen as being of that type: rich, but crude.


That just sounds like politeness.

We need to get more concrete here.



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06 Jan 2018, 10:32 am

I gave a concrete example: my mother. She decided that she had to dispense with what she sees as the "crudity" of the "lower classes." So she decided to change her image, both socially and outwardly(i.e., what she wears). She wanted to adopt the behavior and looks of the "professional classes," and purge everything "lower class" from her being.

In many respects, she "overdid it." She denied the virtues of the working classes, and thus seems to me somewhat of an "incomplete" person, who can't see the forest for the trees.

There is virtue in enduring hardship, and "true class" often comes out even in a superficially "working class" person. And there are many people of the "professional" and "upper" social classes who lack "class" inwardly, yet appear to superficially possess it.



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06 Jan 2018, 10:47 am

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I gave a concrete example: my mother. She decided that she had to dispense with what she sees as the "crudity" of the "lower classes." So she decided to change her image, both socially and outwardly(i.e., what she wears). She wanted to adopt the behavior and looks of the "professional classes," and purge everything "lower class" from her being.

In many respects, she "overdid it." She denied the virtues of the working classes, and thus seems to me somewhat of an "incomplete" person, who can't see the forest for the trees.

There is virtue in enduring hardship, and "true class" often comes out even in a superficially "working class" person. And there are many people of the "professional" and "upper" social classes who lack "class" inwardly, yet appear to superficially possess it.


Well I definitely don't disagree with you there!

I also find it interesting that most billionaires were born in poor households.



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06 Jan 2018, 10:56 am

Enduring hardship provides some people with extreme incentive and ambition. Some of these folks have a one-track mind, and exclude all things which detract from their goals.

Many rise out of squalor. A few even become millionaires and billionaires. Some, unfortunately, fall victim to drugs and alcohol.

Many of the kids of these "strivers" who become successful are not strivers themselves. They didn't have to endure the hardship their parents had to endure. They adopt a life-policy of complacency.



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06 Jan 2018, 11:16 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Enduring hardship provides some people with extreme incentive and ambition. Some of these folks have a one-track mind, and exclude all things which detract from their goals.

Many rise out of squalor. A few even become millionaires and billionaires. Some, unfortunately, fall victim to drugs and alcohol.

Many of the kids of these "strivers" who become successful are not strivers themselves. They didn't have to endure the hardship their parents had to endure. They adopt a life-policy of complacency.


The difference between the poor and rich is the rick knows how to get richer while the poor knows how to get poorer.