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31 Oct 2007, 10:47 am

I hate it how lesbian feminists act like women have no choice as to what they wear in public here in the Western World.
Its a shame that treating people with respect isnt enough when it comes to male-female relationships.

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31 Oct 2007, 11:33 am

Ziyaret wrote:

I hate it how lesbian feminists act like women have no choice as to what they wear in public here in the Western World.

Yes. I mean, I know a girl in a successful live-in relationship whom I've never seen wear makeup, high heels or a skirt, and I know for a fact of at least 2 men apart from her bf that would love to date her. My ex-gf didn't even know how to apply makeup or walk in high heels, and I wasn't the only guy that wanted her. High heels are not like burqas under the Taliban.
My guess is that in a decade or so women will achieve earning parity with men in the West (or even overtake them)... and will still expect the guy to pay for everything on a date, courts will still grant them custody with no-strings-attached child support in the overwhelming majority of divorces (is it any wonder that men are increasingly reluctant to get married?), guys will still be expected to be the ones to initiate relationships, etc.

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31 Oct 2007, 8:27 pm

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There is a brutal saying (one which I don't agree with), 'las mujeres, para el metate y el petate', which says, in effect, that sex and housework are all women are good for; men who take this attitude don't seem to have a problem getting sex. so yes, i'm a bit annoyed with women that most will either go for this sort of man or demand all the benefits of traditional relationships (the man pays for everything, if there's a divorce they get custody unless they don't want it) and those of egalitarian relationships. Most women do not believe in equality; actions speak louder than words.

True, it does seem unfair that we should get both equal rights AND have men pay for stuff and initiate conversation and such. But the thing is, we have to carry your children for nine months, and then give birth to your children, and in the vast majority of cases raise your children. In exchange for that, all you guys have to do is pay for dinner! Personally I think it's a fair trade off.

Also, I would say I wear heels because they make my calves look good, not because society is forcing me to do so.

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31 Oct 2007, 8:47 pm

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the other side of the coin is that while motherhood is respected, society gives fathers few real rights and fatherhood is not respected. Men who go through divorce are at the tender mercies of their ex regarding the kids. Plus, I will never have the possibility of having kids because as a man I would need someone to have them with (and as a single man, what chance do i have at adoption?), whereas a single woman can just go to a sperm bank. I'd be more than happy to share raising the kids, and it's not out fault that nature is no feminist. i will never go through childbirth, but i will never have kids either, though i want to. plus, women can get multiple orgasms.
i have no problem with women who do wear high heels, my point was that women who do so choose to do so.

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01 Nov 2007, 10:20 am

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It aint mens fault that women are the ones who get pregnant and give birth. Besies, you certainly dont have to get pregnant for the sake of men you know. Seems to me like women often want children more than men.

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01 Nov 2007, 9:09 pm

pbcoll wrote:

Ziyaret wrote:

I hate it how lesbian feminists act like women have no choice as to what they wear in public here in the Western World.

I agree with both of those things, and I'm female, and it makes me angry that they are the case. Equality shouldn't just mean that we get all the good stuff with none of the bad stuff or the responsibilities.

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03 Nov 2007, 10:49 pm

becca423b wrote:

we have to carry your children for nine months, and then give birth to your children, and in the vast majority of cases raise your children. In exchange for that, all you guys have to do is pay for dinner!

In point of fact, since about the mid-20th century, most European and North American women have not had to carry children for nine months, or all the rest of it.

Not only that, but you can still get dinner.

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03 Nov 2007, 11:58 pm

pbcoll wrote:

Ziyaret wrote:

I hate it how lesbian feminists act like women have no choice as to what they wear in public here in the Western World.

Ragtime wrote:

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I've seen women turn weakling men into nothing but childish pets shared amongst a harem,

Huh?

I don't know what you are talking about, but, on the surface, being a weakling man who is shared amongst a harem like a childish pet doesn't sound like a bad outcome to me. Indeed, being a weakling pet shared amongst a harem has been a secret fantasy of mine.

Well, some of us men like to stand on only two legs. My sense of dignity is usually what causes women to lose interest when at first they look in my direction and smile.

I also have a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to blatant disrespect / under-valuing of me.

Best posts of the entire thread.

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05 Nov 2007, 9:53 am

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I agree, techno, and the real shame of this whole boys vs. girls routine is that it's such a red herring. As you say, aspies all suffer in relationships, just in different ways. The guys don't get enough, and the girls get too much of the wrong thing. Blaming each other for being male or female won't help; we should be supporting each other and trying to help each other find a way.

Amen to that!

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05 Nov 2007, 4:06 pm

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I was watching a show the other night, and these guys were strutting in high heels with a group of lesbians watching. One of the lesbians said "Now look, you see what us women have to go through to look good for you? You men couldn't handle it. You men are nothing." I thought, "wow. Who would want someone that thinks that way?"

See that doesn't make any sense. If that really was a group of lesbians they would have no reason to say "Now look, you see what us women have to go through to look good for you? You men couldn't handle it. You men are nothing.".... Uh...excuse me, but lesbians aren't forced to look good for men. In fact no woman is really forced to wear any particular clothing except for in certain business situations, by their over-bearing mother or maybe in certain religions such as in the Mormons in Colorado City.

No one has ever forced me to wear high heels. I really don't think men care a flip what kind of shoes a woman wears. I wear jeans and knit tops and sneakers and even as a lesbian have plenty of men hitting on me. So the whole high heel quote is stupid. And what would it matter what those so called lesbians on that show say about men and any supposed requirements they have for women because men aren't looking for a date with them anyway.

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05 Nov 2007, 4:35 pm

Not to add any fuel to any fire that may be still burning somewhere in this ancient thread, but...

I'm under the impression that women can wear a t-shirt, stretch pants, and comfy sandals, and still have their choice of plenty of men (not to say all men, but plenty). It seems, therefore, more the woman's instinct which pushes her toward the top rungs of what is currently considered attractive. Don't blame men for that; all men did is help build the rungs -- you don't have to climb them to get our attention. And those women who decide to climb the rungs of fashion don't have to climb to the top either. Women's fashion has probably tens of successive levels of male satisfaction -- but again, we're always undressing you with our eyes anyway, so that's why we keep trying to tell you that it doesn't matter what you wear!

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05 Nov 2007, 5:08 pm

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O...k....

Sorry if you missunderstood me. I didn't say anything about force being done to a lesbian. Though, I didn't consider the gay girl in question's attitude all that nice, and that's what the character on the show said. No, I'm not makeing it up. I was useing it as part of an example that it can go any direction. It doesn't mater which sex.

I also think any girl can be feminist if she wants.

I'm saying how some people like to think an whole gender is like some sterio type they think of.

You wear your choice in cloths, how nice for you. -.- I wear cotton pants, msc. shirts, and comfortable shoes, so obviously bisexuals don't force ourselves either...

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05 Nov 2007, 6:00 pm

God, I hate this thread...

Sorry if this counts as spamming, but f**k, just let this thing die.

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05 Nov 2007, 7:06 pm

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God, I hate this thread...

Sorry if this counts as spamming, but f**k, just let this thing die.

Rule #1 of killing a thread. Never ever ever declare it dead.

(although you're right, this should've died 2 months ago)

Ticker wrote:

No one has ever forced me to wear high heels. I really don't think men care a flip what kind of shoes a woman wears. I wear jeans and knit tops and sneakers and even as a lesbian have plenty of men hitting on me. So the whole high heel quote is stupid. And what would it matter what those so called lesbians on that show say about men and any supposed requirements they have for women because men aren't looking for a date with them anyway.

You are absolutely right, Ticker. Real men don't care what kind of shoes you wear. Women dress up primarily to impress other women. Ever notice how there are pretty much no straight guys in the fashion industry? Staying up with fashion will only impress a gay guy, or a fashion conscious woman. If a woman dresses like a slut, that's all she needs to attract straight guys.

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05 Nov 2007, 7:14 pm

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You are absolutely right, Ticker. Real men don't care what kind of shoes you wear.

Not true GoatOnFire :skull:

. I have been obsessed with womens shoes-what kind of shoes they were for YEARS.
The thing is, there are plenty of other more comfortable and equally attractive shoes women can wear besides heels[personally I think that ultra-high heels w/ platform front are TACKY as HELL]: like 'ballet flats' or 'maryjanes' for example. Anything that makes her foot look small. But thats just my preferrence. I wonder what fashion would be like if there were more straight designers.

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05 Nov 2007, 7:20 pm

Ziyaret wrote:

Not true GoatOnFire :skull:

. I have been obsessed with womens shoes-what kind of shoes they were for YEARS. The thing is, there are plenty of other more comfortable and equally attractive shoes women can wear besides heels[personally I think that ultra-high heels w/ platform front are TACKY as HELL]: like 'ballet flats' or 'maryjanes' for example. Anything that makes her foot look small. But thats just my preferrence.

Then you're not a real man.

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I wonder what fashion would be like if there were more straight designers.

Slut chic, or naked.

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