But it’s all about personality >.>
I was went into a KFC and the guy running the counter was clearly a family man. I saw a wedding ring and he looked like the type to have children too. He wasn't a manager either just a regular worker. Where I live, it is common to see this. Heck, you mentioned $20 an hour: factoring in the conversion factor, you practically need a Master's Degree in an in demand field to make more than that around here! I have a University Degree and two College Diplomas and still don't make that much.
But you don’t know if he had a better job before and lost it and is now working at kfc, or if he has children.
The median hourly income is $20 here though. That’s what women want. Seems a lot of people work for the university and hospitals here. Maybe being a university city raises the bar a lot mor then yiur area, I imagine women in Harvard must all expect men to have phds and high paying jobs.
Here’s some data about my area
Eugene median household income is $47,318
Median rent is 950
Springfield median household income :$39,729
House rent $819
For population 25 years and over in Eugene:
High school or higher: 93.1%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 40.9%
Graduate or professional degree: 17.4%
Unemployed: 6.2%
Mean travel time to work (commute): 17.8 minutes
For population 15 years and over in Eugene city:
Never married: 42.9%
Now married: 40.4%
Separated: 1.3%
Widowed: 3.5%
Divorced: 11.9%
Springfield(my city)
For population 25 years and over in Springfield:
High school or higher: 86.2%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 15.9%
Graduate or professional degree: 4.6%
Unemployed: 6.7%
Mean travel time to work (commute): 18.8 minutes
For population 15 years and over in Springfield city:
Never married: 34.4%
Now married: 43.3%
Separated: 1.6%
Widowed: 5.1%
Divorced: 15.6%
My county living wage calculations
http://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/41039
I make two dollars more then what is calculated for two working adults.
I’d have to make about $24 and hour to be most women’s idea man to provide for one child and non working wife.
population with disabilities.
Eugene 9.4%
Springfield 14.1%
Eugene is 24.4% in poverty.
Mine is 21.5%
Labor force
Eugene: 60%
Springfield: 65%
'That's what women want' I want a genuine Tiger-moth (it's a biplane) that doesn't mean I'll ever get it. And why would you be providing for one child and a non working wife? Are you going around saying that? then we have the answer as to why you seem to be attracting the wrong kind of women.
I'm not a fan of splitting the bills 50/50 but all the responsibilities of your life together should be shared, as in you should both be contributing in all ways to the best of your abilities. If that doesn't cover everything then it is the responsibility of the state (that's what we call the government, the official collective) to provide the rest.
'most woman's ideal man' ? lol there is no such thing.
I find it funny but annoying how women here constantly seek for a reason why it’s the guys fault he’s rejected all the time rather then just admiring its women who reject him fault.
No I don’t talk to women in person. No I don’t want a housewife though seems a lot of women don’t want to work after they have kids otherwise if they make good money they don’t need a guy to make enough to provide for them.
I make half has much as a woman working min wage. So I’d never be able to contribute half. That’s why women reject me. It’s that simple. I don’t make $20+ and hour and anything less is unacceptable to them even ones making min wage or unemployed.
These women say it openly and proudly. If men don’t make enough then they aren’t good enough.
I doubt really doubt most women idea guy is someone on disability working part time min wage. No they dream of middle class guys and middle class lifestyle, vacations to Europe, a 4 bedroom house, 2-4 cars, maybe a beach house, multiple big screen TVs etc. I don’t think any woman desires low class life. So why would they settle for s low class or poor guy which will mean being stuck in low class forever?
I get maybe $900 a month from work and someone working min wage full time makes 1600 a month. So I make about half of them. Most women make 2,000-4,000 a month.
A guy making $20 an hour is 3,200 a month.
I’ve never meet a woman locally who makes under 1600. I don’t think there’s any women in my age range on disability in my area. And aside from unemployed women who also seem to be a rarity those are the only ones who’d make the same or less then me. I’m literally bottom of the barrel. Honestly every business I go to is 75% women employees. Most banks and fast food are 95% female. My bank is 100% female employees. The fast food places near me habe one male employee each he’s the cook.
I dont know if they track that but honest I doubt many women aren’t employed whole a lot of males are. Hence my problem. Feminism worked quite well here it seems. Women are working and going to college are far greater numbers then men, and we have more men in my age range, so what you have is a lot of well paid working women and slot of underpaid or unemployed men who didn’t go to college. Is it any wonder then why there’s a lot of high standards women complaining there no men to date?
I didn't say it was your fault if you are attracting the wrong sort of women I said if you say your expecting to pay for everything then there is the reason you're attracting the wrong sort. The fact that you seem to have taken my comment negatively makes me think you are determined to see the negative in everything I put so I don't see much point in continuing, after all my circumstances aren't massively different so you are basically telling me how s**t my life is.
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Most successful people are pessimists. Only by understanding problems and bad stuff exist can you overcome it
Your car makes a sound that’s new.
A optimistic person would ignore it saying it’s nothing until there care breaks and is totaled.
A pessimists would examine the car and find the problem then fix it before it gets worse.
Civil rights movements are pessimists and thank good for that. Optimistic people would just bee like everything’s fine everything’s great. They’d even do that while standing in a burning building.
World is a cruel hard horrible place pretending it isn’t is stupid and sets you up for failure at some point.
Pessimism is a higher form of optimism.
Go through life expecting nothing from people, you'll always be pleasantly surprised.
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Go through life expecting nothing from people, you'll always be pleasantly surprised.
This is good and bad.
It's good in the way where you expect everyone to be horrible you get a pleasant surprise. But it also means you get accustomed to always looking over your shoulder, and anxiety spiralling out of control. I would suggest a balance of realism and optimism, which is what I'm aiming for.
A realist is the one that fixes it,
I’m a realist.
Problem comes where one can’t fix the car. Car being my dating life. I can see the problem but it’s unfixable for me.
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A realist is the one that fixes it,
I’m a realist.
Problem comes where one can’t fix the car. Car being my dating life. I can see the problem but it’s unfixable for me.
A pessimist would notice something is wrong with the car, examine it, then determine he cannot fix it. Isn't that what you're doing? So you are a pessimist.
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A realist is the one that fixes it,
I’m a realist.
Problem comes where one can’t fix the car. Car being my dating life. I can see the problem but it’s unfixable for me.
A pessimist would notice something is wrong with the car, examine it, then determine he cannot fix it. Isn't that what you're doing? So you are a pessimist.
Your $2000 car breaks down it’ll cost 3,000 to fix it you can only muster 1500 are you a pessimist or realist for saying you can’t fix it?
The only fix is new getting a good paying job which is something I can’t and never will be able to do. Period close ended. No possibility not going happen.
So I can East my time, effort emotions and money chasing that impossible $40 an hornpart time job or accept that it doesn’t exist and if it did there’d be lots of competition for it and me with my 0 experience and skills would not be hired for it. Do you have any idea how many people
Would apply for such a job? Probably millions. Given a lowly min wage retail position gets thousands of applications.
My optimism died after 20 years of failure and rejection. Have you been ejected by thousands of women? Told your ugly by hundreds of women? I have. I’d like to see anyone keep optimistic after that.
Every dream I had ended in failure with the us government telling me no you can’t do that cause you autistic.
So I went to college for a field I didn’t really care for and turns out I fail at it and can’t do the job. So wasted 4 years and 30,000 dollars (12,000 of which I’m in debt for). Where’d the plus side of that? Yeah 12,000 in debt yay. Oh and they won’t every pay for me to go to college again like ever and that debt won’t get wiped out either like they do for banks and millionaires. No it’ll become tax debt in 25 years and then the federal agents will take half my ssi payments to pay it back leaving me homeless, freezing, starving and probably dead. Yay fantastic what a wonderful future.
The government acknowledges I can’t afford to pay the loan back but screws me over anyways yay.
On top of all that I get to be rejected by every single woman with them either telling me I’m ugly or worthless as a man yay what great times.
So given all the s**t hats been piled on me since birth what reason do I possibly have to be optimistic anymore?
No that’s dead and only the realist exist anymore. Mine like millions of others optimistic was crushed by society.
A realist is the one that fixes it,
I’m a realist.
Problem comes where one can’t fix the car. Car being my dating life. I can see the problem but it’s unfixable for me.
Sorry Sly, but you’re not a realist. Although some of your ideas are based on truth, a lot are based on assumptions that aren’t anything more than fantasy.
An optimist wants something and finds a way. They see the good in the bad.
A realist weighs up the good and bad.
A pessimist gives up, thinks everything “won’t work”, only sees things in a negative light. They see only the bad in a good.
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A realist is the one that fixes it,
I’m a realist.
Problem comes where one can’t fix the car. Car being my dating life. I can see the problem but it’s unfixable for me.
Sorry Sly, but you’re not a realist. Although some of your ideas are based on truth, a lot are based on assumptions that aren’t anything more than fantasy.
Disagree. It may not be real in New Zealand but USA is a much more horrible place then New Zealand
I don’t buy that. They might have some differences, but they probably aren’t major, except their ridiculous stance on gun control, and their inability to support people wanting a higher education. Middle class people in New Zealand get nothing. There is no good support for people with mental health issues over the age of 18. We still have a high amount of poverty. I’m donating some food I don’t want tomorrow.
Where do women tell you you're ugly? In what kind of situation did they do so? Did they outright say so, or is that your interpretation of their reaction or something else they said that might imply you're ugly?
Aside from school kids I do not see many people calling each other ugly. Sure some people are very rude about rejecting someone but, assuming that the majority of those thousands of women rejecting you were on dating sites and not in real life, were those calling you ugly also from dating sites? Did they bother to reply to you just to tell you they don't want to date you because they think you're ugly?
You don't look unusual therefore I can't imagine it's random strangers walking up to you just to insult you, unless maybe on rare occasion some teen but that happens to most.
