Beta males - why do woman dislike them?

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07 Sep 2015, 11:34 am

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I’m about average height, or perhaps very slightly above it, and still often feel it’s not enough, because, socially awkward as I am, I know anyone physically able to beat the s**t out of me will eventually get pissed off enough with me to do it if I interact long enough with them. I’d probably feel much more confident if I were fitter and had some training in some martial art, but I didn’t think enough about these topics when I was younger, so I didn’t consider them as important as I do now, and did nothing about it. I’m not really sure I could have done anything even if I had wanted to. Now I can improve a bit, but it’s definitely not going to make a significant change. Whoever can beat me up now will always be able to beat me up.


I am taking Wing Tsun courses, and let me tell, it is very hard to learn as adult - and it's pretty expensive too.
And you really have to be at a high level to beat someone who's significantly bigger than you.


Talking about size and strength,sometimes I very often see symbolic photos on women's dating profiles such as these:

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These definitely reflects a strong desire for a strong man...and who's significantly strong and bigger than them.


I dont really think the object of exercise should really be about muscle mass and stuff though. Simply working out in a single day with no noticeable results releases endorphins and burns off excess energy. That alone makes a guy look more confident and therefore attractive.

Also, if Ive got a bunch of pent up energy and see a woman I find attractive in anyway, its hard for me to interact cause I'm trying not to look like this

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Maybe I should. maybe my success with women would be better, but I'm not confident enough to play that out. So, I look all weird and shy instead. lol

However, if I burn enough energy off through work and exercise beforehand, I can be a lot cooler in my interactions without overplaying it all.



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07 Sep 2015, 12:05 pm

I think women like that just not too much at one time. Being all repressed wont get anyone anywhere though.



I could just go around hollering at girls, but I'm not really confident enough to do that. I like how well he handles it. He just brushes it all of with "Whats wrong witchya???"



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07 Sep 2015, 6:11 pm

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A combination of the two poles with an added neuter/neutral - objective.

Socially he is the third-wheel, third best - always close to the top, never there.
Sexually he is never mated, never finds his "other half.
The weird one, the eccentric - the "monster", when (s)he cannot be categorized within dualisistic systems: the outcast, wanderer.
Usually (s)he is placed within the lower categories by the one evaluating him in a way to make him comprehensible and undesirable.

Tria, third Tria/Epsilon



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07 Sep 2015, 6:36 pm

^^^saved that informative chart :idea:



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07 Sep 2015, 6:49 pm

These are all hierarchical structures pointing to instinct like behaviour in a conscious species. For those not limited by these parameters, there is no happy resolution as far as pairing goes. However, paring is likewise a function of instinct and at odds with the highly conscientised...to put it simply, we arent really pairing (monogamy) material.



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07 Sep 2015, 6:59 pm

^^but there are exceptions. that gives me reason to hope.



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07 Sep 2015, 7:14 pm

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^^but there are exceptions. that gives me reason to hope.


Suburban monogamy (pairing to put a roof over your head so as you can mate to procreate) seems rather drab and pointless to me. I have no great desire to procreate (although I love my child and will act to protect her), nor do I feel the need to be with someone for the duration of my life (unless that person complements the person I am, and that does not include a life of keeping up with the Jones).



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07 Sep 2015, 8:01 pm

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^^but there are exceptions. that gives me reason to hope.


Suburban monogamy (pairing to put a roof over your head so as you can mate to procreate) seems rather drab and pointless to me. I have no great desire to procreate (although I love my child and will act to protect her), nor do I feel the need to be with someone for the duration of my life (unless that person complements the person I am, and that does not include a life of keeping up with the Jones).


there are relationships that meet your requirements. one just has to be lucky enough to find one of one's own.



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07 Sep 2015, 8:15 pm

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^^but there are exceptions. that gives me reason to hope.


Suburban monogamy (pairing to put a roof over your head so as you can mate to procreate) seems rather drab and pointless to me. I have no great desire to procreate (although I love my child and will act to protect her), nor do I feel the need to be with someone for the duration of my life (unless that person complements the person I am, and that does not include a life of keeping up with the Jones).


there are relationships that meet your requirements. one just has to be lucky enough to find one of one's own.


Definitely. Having a complementary partner would make the rest of my journey that much more pleasant. After all, there is nothing quite like a sensitive woman to make life delectable.



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07 Sep 2015, 8:21 pm

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^^but there are exceptions. that gives me reason to hope.


Suburban monogamy (pairing to put a roof over your head so as you can mate to procreate) seems rather drab and pointless to me. I have no great desire to procreate (although I love my child and will act to protect her), nor do I feel the need to be with someone for the duration of my life (unless that person complements the person I am, and that does not include a life of keeping up with the Jones).


there are relationships that meet your requirements. one just has to be lucky enough to find one of one's own.


Definitely. Having a complementary partner would make the rest of my journey that much more pleasant. After all, there is nothing quite like a sensitive woman to make life delectable.

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07 Sep 2015, 8:28 pm

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With force of will (I generally disagree with Nietzche on his take on social economy...but as far as willpower goes, he is correct) you can make it happen, brother. And we are well endowed with conscious willpower.



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07 Sep 2015, 8:31 pm

You look all right, Auntblabby. And you have lots of knowledge. Forget about these charts....There are MANY exceptions to the rule.



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07 Sep 2015, 8:32 pm

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With force of will (I generally disagree with Nietzche on his take on social economy...but as far as willpower goes, he is correct) you can make it happen, brother. And we are well endowed with conscious willpower.

at least you can, by dint of your professional and fiduciary accomplishments. willpower and focus have always been my weak spots. :oops:



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07 Sep 2015, 8:34 pm

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You look all right, Auntblabby. And you have lots of knowledge. Forget about these charts....There are MANY exceptions to the rule.

thank you, my good man :flower:



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07 Sep 2015, 8:51 pm

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With force of will (I generally disagree with Nietzche on his take on social economy...but as far as willpower goes, he is correct) you can make it happen, brother. And we are well endowed with conscious willpower.

at least you can, by dint of your professional and fiduciary accomplishments. willpower and focus have always been my weak spots. :oops:


AB

You are a wise individual. I especially enjoy our exchanges. There will be someone out there for you.



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07 Sep 2015, 8:57 pm

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You are a wise individual. I especially enjoy our exchanges. There will be someone out there for you.

thank you brother :) am in my mid-50s so my sell-by date has already been passed. but I have high hopes for the next life. :arrow: