Why do you think a relationship will make you happy?

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Well... I rest my case, then.

Reading the Red Pill, and its predecessor PUA, has been more helpful to me than years of therapy. With therapists who were blithering idiots when it came to Psychology 101. I wish the Red Pill/PUA existed when I was in high school. (It didn't get popular until I was halfway through college.) Then maybe my first girlfriend might have been someone I was actually into, rather than someone I didn't find attractive and settled for out of sheer desperation and loneliness.

But whatever: his site, his rules. Still, I'm becoming increasingly disappointed in WrongPlanet. It used to be a radical "safe space". I was thrilled to have discovered it when I first stumbled upon it. Now, it's becoming very preachy and conservative. The decline started when the site changed its color scheme from green-and-blue to all-white. Then came CAPTCHA, page loading errors, site going offline, spontaneous logging out, etc. True or not, it feels like a shadow of its former self.

Here's a question: Is Alex against MGTOW as well? After all, MGTOW is about men avoiding women, not seducing them. It's as far from rapey as it gets.

Well it seems to me that approach a relationship as positives outweighing negatives is the problem. Relationships are a item. They shouldn't be meterialist. You enjoy the good times and push through the bad times together. I don't expect s perfect relationship ever. I expect it to have plenty of tough times and fights. People fight. I don't think life nor relationships can be drama free despite what some women demand. When two people really love each other they push throw the tough times and make up after fights.
I'd rather have some to be with in tough times then have a only positive relationship

Sounds like the beginning of the thought police shunning and excluding any alternative viewpoints against the grain.

To ban PUA and Redpoll is no better than banning Feminist stuff.

Its.not that I don't think relationships are overrated and the grass isn't greener, its that I STILL want whatever the heck relationships are.

I don't believe.in true love, maybe adequete love doesn't even exist.

If a 10 year marriage with the first 6 years being great and the last 4 being unhappy is the closest thing to 'love' anyone will ever get.in modern society . I will GLADLY and Gratefully take that offer.

If most relationships aren't so much good as they are 'slightly better than sh*tty/mediocre' then that's still what I want.

The fact relationships are overrated does.not deter me from still wanting whatever it still is.

And I don't blame you at all for that. You're actually more levelheaded than I was when I was 18. It just seems to be alot of the guys here have gotten their views on what a relationship is completely warped by anime and romance films.

And look, my previous relationship was great actually. We were the kind of couple who got told we were so cute together all the time, and I have no anger or bitterness towards her. She is a great person, we got along great, great sex ect. But still this supposed idea of happiness let me down, because I had(and still have) a dream of working with sound and composition, and I felt like I had to give that up, in order to become a good and reliable partner. So I had to let her go, and reuinite with freedom once again.

That's not what makes it dangerous. What makes it dangerous is that it's fall too easy to fall for that BS.

Some of what those red pillers say it quite biased. By no means do I think it should be banned. I think everyone should be able to see it so they can see that it's just as ridiculous as radical feminism.

Being in a relationship will only solve those problems that are caused by not being in a relationship. It won't sole your other problems. I learned this lesson the hard way. I thought being in a relationship would be the panacea for mental health problems. It wasn't.

This is what I meant when I said WrongPlanet became preachy and conservative. When I first joined this site, it was a safe space from the mainstream society. Today, this site is the mainstream society. Presumably due to WP's growing member base and better awareness of ASD in the world at large. And its views are no different: men are bad, women are good, and trans we're still not sure about. Also, in the past, this site was very egalitarian; today, the post count is concentrated in the hands of a few.

Exactly! I should have known that when I met my first girlfriend (at age 18). I was expecting my life to instantly improve in every way. In reality, even the romantic part of it didn't improve! I was expecting her to be my loyal companion on outings into the city; the most she did was go to the college dance with me. The rest of the time, she didn't like going places at all. As for other parts of my life, I think the only reason they got better is from the mood boost I got from "having a girlfriend", despite my lack of enjoyment. Today, I'm pretty sure I'd be struggling with low-level depression (dysthymia?) if I were to find myself in a relationship.

Oh, you wanna talk about WP not being what it was... I was once one of the very few conservative, evangelistic Christian apologists over in PPR. I could hold my own. One of the final nails in the coffin for me was when discussing the Biblical view of [redacted, h***phobic content] I was told I couldn't even provide supporting evidence because of [redacted]. Later on I'd get reported to mods for silly stuff, and that really blew my mind. I figured, well, I can play that game, too. I figured out I was being bullied into expressing my views so they COULD report me, or they'd make me look like an idiot because I couldn't support my statements with evidence because the evidence itself violated TOS. So what I'd do and still do is report people who bring it up and demand I answer for it.

I eventually just had to abandon PPR entirely. I wasn't alone, and there was a brief time when other Christians flooded PPR. But what happens when everyone is in perfect agreement or just afraid to speak up? It gets boring. People stopped talking. There were other reasons, but most of all it stopped being fun.

That hasn't really happened in L&D yet, though. There's still quite a bit of diversity of thought, still unique issues. People in L&D every now and then will actually LISTEN. People here all have stories to tell colored with emotion and not shackled by dry, black-or-white logic. With love, you are dealing with emotional human beings that often make irrational choices--and those choices are celebrated.

Geez, it's a sad day when AngelRho of all people is too controversial for PPR.

I like it here. I think I'll stick around.

No kidding! I once had people antagonize me too. They kept preaching at me about something I wanted no part of, time and again, even after I asked them to stop. Humorously at first, then more firmly. They didn't stop, and kept picking at me, until I either abandoned the discussion or snapped. Never did I curse anyone out, just called them out on their actions. When I tried to get the problem addressed, mods always sided against me, issued me warnings, and ignored me when I tried to PM them to discuss it. Methinks favoritism is going on.

This site is still holding its own. But starting a year or so ago, I shifted the bulk of my posts to a set of other sites. While they're not as friendly as this used to be, and I butted heads a few times---and Red Pill is almost a war zone---they work well enough. Most importantly, I like their mods a lot better. To avoid being doxxed, I can't share which sites.

Red Pill ideology doesn't seem to have anything to do with love; rather it's treating women as a hive-mind to be manipulated and controlled. It's no wonder some of the women here have utter contempt for men when they've been on the receiving end of such attitudes.

The way I see it, rather than chasing after "women" as a concept we need to take a step back and think about the individuals we're interested in without associating them with preconceived biases.

Asperger's Syndrome exists because there's a strong sense of hive mind among humans.

In my experience, there seems to be a strong anti-male bias among the mods on this site, which is quite ironic, given that autism has often been described as an extreme of the male brain...

Is that all you see your girlfriend as? Just another woman with the same algorithm to follow?

Nope, not at all, but figuring out the tendencies in the opposite sex does help.

Yes, it does help a bit, if you get a more realistic and balanced view on individualism/collectivism.

Now, if humans are 100% individuals then Vin Diesel wouldn't be a sex symbol, and soccer wouldn't be popular, Trump wouldn't have won,.....etc, humanity would be so different, and this website about Asperger Syndrome wouldn't have existed either.

Think about it, if humans are 100% individuals, meaning each one has his/her own unique instincts and tendencies then AS wouldn't have seen as something 'odd', therefore Aspies wouldn't have suffered and therefore the condition wouldn't have been categorized as a condition.

My afraid about relationships is addiction. Because I'm an alone person without sharing too much intimicy (even with close friends), when I have a relationship and failed its too hard for me.

But the opposite is too pessimist. Stay alone because its better to have low expectations.