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18 Jun 2019, 12:38 pm

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... Most people don’t fit neatly into specific categories ...
It does seem strange that every fat woman in the Temple-Kileen-Fort Hood area is certain to be both Christian and anti-intellectual.



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18 Jun 2019, 12:42 pm

Like seriously, what's so weird in wanting a woman who equally finds me sexually attractive as much how I find her sexually attractive?
Seriously, if my lover doesn't lust me, doesn't find me visually arousing then there's certainly something wrong in the relationship.

Most people are like me, that's the natural thing, you are the weird ones, not me.



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18 Jun 2019, 12:47 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Like seriously, what's so weird in wanting a woman who equally finds me sexually attractive as much how I find her sexually attractive? Seriously, if my lover doesn't lust me, doesn't find me visually arousing then there's certainly something wrong in the relationship. Most people are like me, that's the natural thing, you are the weird ones, not me.
Ahh, but are you...
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... an overweight, pre-diabetic, underemployed, 30 year-old with apparently no prospects of moving out of his mother's home or establishing a career with an adequate income with which to sustain an independent lifestyle, presumably poor social skills...
... et cetera?



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18 Jun 2019, 12:58 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Like seriously, what's so weird in wanting a woman who equally finds me sexually attractive as much how I find her sexually attractive?
Seriously, if my lover doesn't lust me, doesn't find me visually arousing then there's certainly something wrong in the relationship.

Most people are like me, that's the natural thing, you are the weird ones, not me.


Most people have something attractive about them. I’m more turned on by a good personality more than by a good body. A good personality can make a person appear more attractive than he or she is, I believe.

Of course, everyone is different in this respect.



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18 Jun 2019, 1:02 pm

Fnord wrote:
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... Most people don’t fit neatly into specific categories ...
It does seem strange that every fat woman in the Temple-Kileen-Fort Hood area is certain to be both Christian and anti-intellectual.


It’s quite remarkable how that seems to work. I’d better try hard not to gain much weight or I’ll be out preaching again and using words like “hain’t.”

Of course, maybe one has to be from that specific region in order for this to transpire. Still...I’d better watch what I eat just in case.



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18 Jun 2019, 1:10 pm

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https://i.imgur.com/0LygXVJ.jpg

https://dl2.pushbulletusercontent.com/K ... G_6749.jpg

I guess not, but there's type I and II diabetes in the family, hopefully I won't get it.


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30 year-old with apparently no prospects of moving out of his mother's home


That one is completely irrelevant to my country's economy and culture (even before the economical decline).

Here, like in all Eastern/Asian cultures, people have the cultural obligation to nurture their elder parents, even to diaper them.


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Software Development career and freelance developer, I am doing fine, making $2750/mo (base net salary) + $1000 extra and freelancing in a country with a GDP ....about 1% of Apple co.

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Well, I wouldn't be on WP if I was a social butterfly, that's for sure.

I am almost a m***et tho.



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18 Jun 2019, 1:52 pm

It really depends on how you carry yourself.

I've seen 5 foot 1 guys on the train whom I wouldn't want to mess with.......and I've seen them with nice women, too.



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18 Jun 2019, 4:19 pm

Brother Marknis, have you considered visiting a VR office in your area if there are?

If so, you should take the time to visit one for an intake appointment so you may receive help not only in finding yourself better employment, but a residence that you can move into, and EBT benefits so you can pay for your own food and not go out to eat.


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18 Jun 2019, 11:22 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Like seriously, what's so weird in wanting a woman who equally finds me sexually attractive as much how I find her sexually attractive?
Seriously, if my lover doesn't lust me, doesn't find me visually arousing then there's certainly something wrong in the relationship.

Most people are like me, that's the natural thing, you are the weird ones, not me.

Calm down Boo. Nobody believes that physical attraction plays no role in relationships. It's just comforting to believe that humans are above "urges".



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19 Jun 2019, 2:47 am

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I know some men choose not to believe this, but reasonable and smart women tend to fall for a guy based on personality & intelligence, and not looks.


This is largely a very small minority...smart women are smart so obviously have the capacity to aim higher....I worked in the corporate sector and never in my life saw a female corporate suit (of any profession) dating a guy who wasn't as good looking or cashed up as they were.



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19 Jun 2019, 2:51 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Like seriously, what's so weird in wanting a woman who equally finds me sexually attractive as much how I find her sexually attractive?
Seriously, if my lover doesn't lust me, doesn't find me visually arousing then there's certainly something wrong in the relationship.

Most people are like me, that's the natural thing, you are the weird ones, not me.


Most people have something attractive about them. I’m more turned on by a good personality more than by a good body. A good personality can make a person appear more attractive than he or she is, I believe.

Of course, everyone is different in this respect.


This is all very nice but in the real world women don't choose a life partner purely on the basis of a "good personality", I think sometimes this type of comment only serves to drive the single males on WP (and there's plenty of those) a little more frustrated with their predicament.



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19 Jun 2019, 3:45 am

cyberdad wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Like seriously, what's so weird in wanting a woman who equally finds me sexually attractive as much how I find her sexually attractive?
Seriously, if my lover doesn't lust me, doesn't find me visually arousing then there's certainly something wrong in the relationship.

Most people are like me, that's the natural thing, you are the weird ones, not me.


Most people have something attractive about them. I’m more turned on by a good personality more than by a good body. A good personality can make a person appear more attractive than he or she is, I believe.

Of course, everyone is different in this respect.


This is all very nice but in the real world women don't choose a life partner purely on the basis of a "good personality", I think sometimes this type of comment only serves to drive the single males on WP (and there's plenty of those) a little more frustrated with their predicament.

People tend to seek partners similar to them.
If Princess has nice personality, she may be looking for it herself. Honestly, my personality is not super nice and my husband's personality isn't flawless as well. I don't mind.
I am neither ugly nor a supermodel. Healthy but not sporty. Very intellectual. Enjoy arts, amateur musician. Not fond of money but saving.
Guess what kind of partners I have been always considering.

The trick is to find your niche.


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19 Jun 2019, 4:47 am

magz wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Like seriously, what's so weird in wanting a woman who equally finds me sexually attractive as much how I find her sexually attractive?
Seriously, if my lover doesn't lust me, doesn't find me visually arousing then there's certainly something wrong in the relationship.

Most people are like me, that's the natural thing, you are the weird ones, not me.


Most people have something attractive about them. I’m more turned on by a good personality more than by a good body. A good personality can make a person appear more attractive than he or she is, I believe.

Of course, everyone is different in this respect.


This is all very nice but in the real world women don't choose a life partner purely on the basis of a "good personality", I think sometimes this type of comment only serves to drive the single males on WP (and there's plenty of those) a little more frustrated with their predicament.

People tend to seek partners similar to them.
If Princess has nice personality, she may be looking for it herself. Honestly, my personality is not super nice and my husband's personality isn't flawless as well. I don't mind.
I am neither ugly nor a supermodel. Healthy but not sporty. Very intellectual. Enjoy arts, amateur musician. Not fond of money but saving.
Guess what kind of partners I have been always considering.

The trick is to find your niche.


Yeah exactly my point...BTW biologically women are programmed to search for mates who hold the best opportunity to pass on "strong" progeny. Most females will seek a loyal alpha male if the opportunity arises.



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19 Jun 2019, 5:06 am

Good advice but since getting this haircut and dressing more masculine, I've had female strangers act differently. Which I guess they'd do around men too.

When a woman is giggling and stuff, making more eye contact than usual and being more personal, of course I'm thinking 'is she straight and thinks I'm a guy or is she gay and this might go somewhere?'

Which I think for a guy would translate as 'is this going somewhere' since 90% of women are straight.

This should only be when she's giggling and stuff though, not every woman you ever interact with. And even then, it's just a temptation to think that way rather than something realistic.

In shops/cafes/pubs, female employees flirt with men and with women who look butch because their bosses encourage that in order to boost sales. Guys do it too, they're just told to keep it a bit more subtle and to women on hen nights in pubs etc because of the risk of intimidating female customers (and stereotyping around that). They're also told to flirt with really camp male customers.

That isn't professional/how it should be but it's the way of the world in capitalism where sex sells. In American cafes I bet it happens a lot because tips.


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19 Jun 2019, 5:12 am

I don't like the term "alpha male". I don't even know what it means. I hear it thrown in so many different contexts that I find it ultimately meaningless.

Men (and women) have different gifts, different strengths. There is no strict hierarchy. I prefer intelligent guys and don't mind poor social skills. Someone else may have it the opposite way.

I think it is important that the man impresses his woman in some way (my husband says, the opposite is important, too) but the greek-letter-male terminology suggests only one-dimensional scale of possible impressiveness.


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19 Jun 2019, 5:52 am

magz wrote:
I don't like the term "alpha male". I don't even know what it means. I hear it thrown in so many different contexts that I find it ultimately meaningless.

Men (and women) have different gifts, different strengths. There is no strict hierarchy. I prefer intelligent guys and don't mind poor social skills. Someone else may have it the opposite way.

I think it is important that the man impresses his woman in some way (my husband says, the opposite is important, too) but the greek-letter-male terminology suggests only one-dimensional scale of possible impressiveness.



Would you accept a guy (regardless of personality, just imagine he has a great personality), who is:

- Unemployed or been stuck in an entry job for decades
- Overweight
- Over 30 but living with parents (a big shame in the West)
- No car
- No relationship experience.

There's this elephant in the room thing that me, cyberdad and Inquistor and Fnord (virually all the active males in this thread LOL) have been talking about over and over again.

... so I think the ladies here should be a little more honest with Marknis, and no, I am sure it's not just a matter of personality or depression.

He has to hear the harsh truth from your mouths (or...from your fingers here), so he can realize that his main problem is not just his area.