Why do girls want cocky, arrogant guys?

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I wouldn't tell her to break up but there have been a few I've told I wanted nothing to do with as long as they are paired-up with their goons, including "Liana" further up on this thread. Sometimes its better to leave them to their own devices and learn from experience.

I am coming to the conclusion that in our attempt to compensate for centuries of gender-segregation, we're starting to overfavor women so much that males are starting to falter; the declining ratio of males to females in college is but one of the symptoms of our guilt-ridden society. This should not be tolerated; there has to be a middle ground in which both genders have true equality and we're not trying to destroy each other in zero-sum games.

That's okay, but if you know for 100% that there's abuse, then you have to do everything in your power to stop it.

That's exactly my point. Women gained their well-deserved rights, but in the process, they have demanded that guys make changes and become less dominant, and so forth. Guys that respect women have complied, but then end up having zero luck with women. In the universal chain of being, men were designed to be dominant over women. I don't like it, you don't have to like it, but that's the way it is, and we have to live with it and learn to like it.

That doesn't mean that men and women can't be equal. It also does not mean that men should treat women like crap. But men shouldn't become slaves to women, and they should be able to do what is natural. I personally cannot do what is "natural" right now because I have been brainwashed into being always nice to women, and I am slowly trying to shed that image.

By all means, it's ultimately not about image. There's a fine line between the macho biker stereotype you associate as attracting women with, and the serial killer stereotype that we're trying to avoid. But in the end, it's all merely typecasting. Ditch it.

Wow, I totally agree with you. It really all comes down to being EQUAL, but still being DIFFERENT. Humans might have the knowledge to try to be equal, but they're truely not intelligent(remember, knowledge≠intelligence) enough to see the flaws.

I say that women that use feminism as an excuse to hate men aren't real feminists.

The problem is that by in large, most people are weak and small. More often than not by choice.

Some people are jerks, some people cave in to the jerks.


The problem lays in that pushing people around and forcing them to do what you say can be a very convincing illusion of Strength. It also seems to for some reason attract women, or at least a certain kind of woman.

As far as the insecure "Nice Guys" go. The problem is, we're busy hammering down what people shouldn't be(and in a pretty contradictory manner with a great deal of frequency), but we haven't really decided what we should be.


And this is when you start seeing the people with a strong sense of character. They don't buy what everyone else is selling, but they don't neccesarily discount it entirely either, nor take the position of doing the exact opposite of something just because they don't like part of it. They find a way to define themselves. Or maybe they don't even need one.

I mean, feminism came to be because women have been opressed for centuries. Some of them have decided that they don't particularly like men and that this somehow makes it okay to pull some of the same crap they've had pulled on them.

There isn't that much difference between nice guys that aren't nice, and mean people.

The genuinely nice people tend to be a lot more emotionally balanced. And while success is not garunteed, I think that they do tend to get it more easily.

I'm far from perfect, but I have the guts to say my mind but I do not feel that for some reason I have to proove this on every single frick'n occasion. I don't need everyone to agree with me, but I will argue. And while I am afraid, I don't let my fear control me.


I don't think for a minute that people are equal. There are ways we should be treated equally (such as under the law). But orientation, gender, or race has little to do with this. And each race, gender, and orientation is equally capable of mistreatment.

Girly Girls that are very feminine like those kind of guys.

They've asked that they be less abusive. There's a big difference between cocky, arrogent guys and abusers [emotional and physical].. the abusers usually act 'charming' [even nice] to start with and gradually break a woman down into submission. Once he has done that he can drop the act of 'nice guy' and turn into an a***hole. Personally.. when I meet a self assured guy I know what I'm getting.. a MAN.. not a a whiny little boy looking for a new mummy.

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Ah, Knowledge, Wisdom, and Intelligence. Where does each begin and the other end. And what exactly are they? With definitions that are getting fuzzy, it's hard to tell sometimes!

Cocky is sexy in the short term only. After a few months, I'd be seriously annoyed with that kind of assiness, and we would dump the arrogant man. Cocky doesn't mean abusive.

"Jerks for Fun; Wimps for Support", eh?

It's that good ole Social Darwinist thing.

But.....there are many who are more civilized, and who transcend "animal" instincts.

Especially once they get a dose of constant arrogance which permeates their everyday lives.

because biology dictates attraction and cocky guys are probably attractive, charismatic and confident aka strong and sadly that's the way of the world.


question - why do men want dumb, dolled up girls?

Even in my worst days, I never went for that type of girl.

I've always liked cerebral types----even as a child.

in my experience, most guys don't like when i outsmart them or generally am better at things than them. having said that, these types of guys are cocky and arrogant ahaha so i am to blame for seeking the wrong kind of attention (at least i used to )